The Ongoing Serie A, La Liga, All English Football, Champions League Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 52

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  1. Thread Manager

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    This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]537299[/split]
     
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  3. Brian Braddock

    Brian Braddock R.I.P. '96 Y.N.W.A.

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    Great manager, horrible human being (based on his unwavering viewpoint on Hillsborough).
     
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  4. DarthSkywalker

    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    Hunter took that post well. :o

    Messi scored 73 in Pep's last season. 60 the next. Averaged well over a goal a game. Hasn't got to 60 since, has gotten over a goal a match twice, but not 10+ goals over.
     
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  5. Hunter Rider

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    :sly:

    He was playing him as a false 9 in that last season, hence the extra goals, but there's a lot more in Messi's game than just goals, he's become a creative hub at Barca in the wake of Xavi and the decline of Iniesta.
     
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    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    Messi has definitely taken on a more creative role. But he was just as creative then. I don't know how accurate these numbers are but they have Messi's 3 biggest assist totals in a season at 23 and 21 twice. Two came in his last seasons with Pep. No Copa included sadly.

    https://www.whoscored.com/Players/11119/History/Lionel-Messi

    Now I know assist are not everything. Being creative is just as much about the pass before the pass. But he was the most lethal offensive player in history at that time.
     
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    The last part is what I was going to say, look at Zidane and Iniesta's assists, they were never reacking them up like Ozil and De Bruyne, but I'd argue both were more creatively imortant to their teams.

    Lets just agree that Guardiola is an overrated, arrogant *****ebag. :cwink:
     
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    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    I can agree on both accounts. :woot:
     
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  9. Iceman

    Iceman Daffy Duck Vs The Joker

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    He is. :woot:

    But a top team with a truckload of money to spend could do a lot worse and there are many other top managers who seem not to be able to quite deliver the goods even when they have cash to splash. I think there is skill involved even in spending a small fortune and in that situation one manager will assemble an unbeatable team while another will get you a bunch of top players that he can't gel into a great team.
     
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    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    If you have the money and want a certain type of football, he is the perfect option.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Sure, if you have a bottomless pit of money and want to play a high possession brand of football then he's the go to guy, and he's done well with Sane, Sterling and Gabriel Jesus progression.
     
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    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    The one thing I will never forgive Pep for. Its unleashing this ******* on the world.

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    I was going to chime in with how Messi is now clearly outstripping Ronaldo as the best player of his generation, but...

    Then I saw that Swansea is currently beating Arsenal 3-1 and realized there are more important matters at hand :dry:
     
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    Iceman Daffy Duck Vs The Joker

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    With how much you dislike him what would you think of him at Utd if you had a fortune to spend? Would the style of footballl put you off or would you just be too annoyed to have him as your manager? I do think a lot of guys at the top might struggle managing a lower division team.
     
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    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    I completely forgot about the midweek fixtures. :lmao:

    So Arsenal. :atp:
     
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    Ugh, what a piece of garbage that gfuy is, his teams in general do a lot of injury faking but Busquets took it to another level that night, great DM but awful personality.

    I saw it was 2-1 but Swansea have netted a 3rd!, man Robbie is gonna make a mint tonight! :woot:
     
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    Aubameyang must be looking at this going "…****…what have I done…". Meanwhile Sanchez is looking at it going "…thank God I'm not there now…".
     
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    Iceman Daffy Duck Vs The Joker

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    Swansea turning things around! Bad news for us but good on them and congrats to Average Man. :up:

    Also Liverpool pulling out a result.
     
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    Robbie will have a Rolls for each day of the week soon, and will probably made a bid to buy Kroenke's share in the club soon :funny:
     
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    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    Arsenal TV is going to be class. :mrk:

    Arsenal will be 8 out of 4th, with Liverpool about to win, easily. Are they already out of the race? Ozil is going to be a United player at this rate as well. :funny:
     
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  21. Hunter Rider

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    Oh I'd have no issue with him as United manager, I don't like Mourinho and his BS either lol. I've said it before, bar Pochettino I find most of the managers at the top clubs insufferable.
     
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    Good Lord it's a bloodbath at the bottom of the table - 2 points splitting 14th to 19th place.
     
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  23. Iceman

    Iceman Daffy Duck Vs The Joker

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    What is the longest that Messi has been out of form since he got really good? One of the most consistent greats out there surely.
     
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    Ozil is busy sending Sanchez emergency texts, trying to get Mourinho's number out of him.
     
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  25. Hunter Rider

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    :wow: This is the master plan, Robbie is going to take over the club with the profits from AFTV and install Toopz and DT in the boardroom and make Claude the Tea Lady!
     
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