The Outsiders & The Warriors

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These are two classic gang movies that are classic time pieces that seem to be forgotten and are deserving of remakes that improve upon the originals. Lets start out with the Outsiders:
The book is a classic, and is my favorite book. The movie was good, but could've been better. I mean c'mon it had an all-star cast, just had poor directing. This is a great story of brothers and a dysfunctional gang family that goes through a lot and really needs to be remade, but if it is remade, it must stay in the time frame of the 50s. Thats what makes it so good, IMO.
The Warriors is a good brawling gang movie and one great journey. We've all played the video game and have seen the movie. I remember the rumors of a remake a couple years ago, but i'm glad it got canned. The plot for that one was it was in L.A and takes place in modern times. What The Flip?? It needs to be in New York and has to be in the 70's. I loved the announcer lady and all the different gangs and this really make it amazing. This needs to be remade properly. Can You Dig It?
What is your opinion on these two movies?
 
I could see both these films being remade . I would expect warrior before outsiders. It would be a good idea to keep them from going modern . I'd like to see the warriors remade but take place in the same time frame.
 
If done they really need to be in the same timeframes. I'd really enjoy these remade instead of many remakes that have already been done.
 
I got one better:

Outsiders vs. Warriors

throw in the gangs from west side story and we got a royal rumble
 
I got one better:

Outsiders vs. Warriors

throw in the gangs from west side story and we got a royal rumble
Those dancers? Hell no. But I'm pretty sure the Warriors would beat the Greasers from "The Outsiders". They fought dirtier.
 
I got one better:

Outsiders vs. Warriors

throw in the gangs from west side story and we got a royal rumble

hahahaha ...

Naw seriously, throw the Warriors & the Greasers against the Ducky Boys from the Wanderers. :word:
 
From AMAZON:
Mr Vess said:
After almost a year of anticipation, the trumpeted "ultimate director's cut" of the beloved 1979 camp classic arrived - and it made George Lucas's belated Star Wars reeditions, with their already proverbially inane "Greedo shooting first" and "Hayden Christensen's head inserted over Sebastian Shaw" changes look like genuine improvements.

Walter Hill just managed to do what medicine previously thought unimaginable - he raped himself. He took a film loved by no less than four generations and murdered it, spat on it and desecrated its corpse.

The "ultimate cut" was turned into an imbecilic quasi-comic book film. Hill destroyed numerous legendary scenes by inserting awkward zooms, awkward cuts at pivotal moments, and - oh, heaven have mercy - freezes and transitions into "stylized" pseudo-comic book panels (actually seemingly made with the emboss filter of Photoshop), often complete with inane "thought bubble" comments.

Case in point - the scene in which the Warriors encounter the Furies. A powerful scene in which tension grows with every second, conveyed only through the actors' eyes and Barry de Vorzon's slowly creeping-up score. At least that is how it looked originally... because in the new version, at the second when the tension just began growing, the "new" film freezes and transforms into an idiotic comic book panel complete with - oh, God, why?!? - an imbecilic bubble comment stating "Holy sh..., the Baseball Furies!". That's how bad the new version is - and this isn't even the worst example.

He shattered the mystery of the ambient "Wonder Wheel" opening by inserting an absolutely unnecessary animate reference to Anabasis before it. And, worst of all, he obliterated the wonderful ending scene. You know it - it is the symbolic take showing the survivors as they walk away from the memory of the night of horror towards the - perhaps hopeful - fresh dawn. I called this scene "the walk to nowhere - somewhere - everywhere".

In the new version, the walk is frozen after a few seconds and spliced into four idiotic comic book panels which then remain on screen. That single change is so wretchedly disgraceful that it defies belief. It is akin to taking, say, the closing scene of "The Godfather" and cutting it at the moment when Michael Corleone sits and thinks, rolling end credits at that moment rather than following it to show the legendary "new don" conclusion.

As the final insult, the DVD does not offer any worthy extras. There are some standard featurettes, but not much beyond that. Hill "does not believe in commentaries", apparently, so this is absent, but doesn't he believe in viewers' rights to watch deleted scenes, either?

It's true that most deleted scenes, in any films, on any DVD, are usually worthless and epitomize drivel - yet even truly bad ones are often included, since any viewer devoted to any film is always interested in seeing extra footage from it. I understand that Walter Hill may feel ashamed of those scenes and does not want them to be viewed even as a curiosity. I would not be surprised if some of them had not even been shot by him (particularly the infamous, awful day opening) - that would make his objection against their inclusion perfectly justified. However, considering that deleted scenes that do make it to existing DVDs as extra features very rarely represent all material that was cut from the film, and taking into account the typical running time of most rough cuts and workprints from late 70s, I would suspect that there was well over half an hour of alternate or additional footage shot - and that would be enough to choose some interesting snippets for the disc. And, Mister Hill... however bad even the worst deleted scene was, it would be practically impossible for it to be worse than the comic book insertions in the Ultimately Disgraceful Cut.

If there is anything worth having in this disc, it's the new cover. It restores the original 1979 poster - the famous gang conclave in the park, with the tagline "They are the armies of the night". (The UK version has this cover, anyway. The US release apparently features an idiotic, oversaturated "Photochop" of a random scene from the film instead - identical to the previously available DVD's cover, but tinted in "angry" MTV red now...)

If that travesty is indeed representative of the concept that Walter Hill originally had in his mind in 1979, then I praise the studio board that changed it into the version that the audience knows and loves.
 
Love The Warriors, think I may have seen The Outsiders but can't remember if I ever did or not.
 
I agree that the comic book inserts in the dvd version of the warriors are pretty terrible.

Is there really any reason for these films to be remade? I really don't see it.
 
THE WARRIORS had been in development at some point within the last few years.
 
I heard about The Warriors being remade but all has been quiet about it for now.
 
I think I had to watch The Outsiders for a class essay once. Didn't like it at all.

The Warriors on the other hand? Love it :D
 
The Warriors is one of those movies that never gets old and is just as enjoyable to watch for the hundredth time as it was the first.
 
BTW, does anyone know if The Warriors Bluray includes the original cut of the film? Because Walter Hill made the stupid decision to add 'animated' comic book like transitions in the director's cut.
 
BTW, does anyone know if The Warriors Bluray includes the original cut of the film? Because Walter Hill made the stupid decision to add 'animated' comic book like transitions in the director's cut.



I don't think my copy has the theatrical cut.
 
The Outsiders is a movie that should never be remade. It's perfect as is.
 
Well it was talked about of doing a reboot/remake of the Warriors 6 years ago or earlier.
 
BTW, does anyone know if The Warriors Bluray includes the original cut of the film? Because Walter Hill made the stupid decision to add 'animated' comic book like transitions in the director's cut.
It doesn't.
 
While I don't want to see The Warriors remade per say, I would like to see a movie similar to it set during modern times.
 
While I don't want to see The Warriors remade per say, I would like to see a movie similar to it set during modern times.

The Warriors is basically based on the Greek volume Anabasis, so they could easily make a movie based on Anabasis and set it in any environment or genre (i.e. modern day gangster, post-disaster science fiction) without being accused of remaking the Warriors.
 
There's a difference: The Outsiders is drama/chick flick. The Warriors is an action movie.
 

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