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Discuss Season 2 in its entirety here. NO SPOILER TAGS NECESSARY!
Really good detailed review, although I disagree with a lot you raise a lot of good points about the relationships involved and especially the point at the end for Billy. I really wanted him to accept his apology before shooting him as well, even though he didn't deserve it.Finished today.
Frank - Bernthal is great as always, barking like a mad dog and generally selling the hell out of the fights like a pro wrestler. Couple of standout sequences, particularly in the bathroom in episode 1. I didn't think much of his "Am I just as bad as Billy?" moments, I found the show too frantic to really buy into it. The staged killing of the innocent women asked some really deep questions, questions that were quickly silenced by the reveal that Russo killed them himself.
Russo - For a show that takes such glee in blood and guts, I have no idea why they opted for such restraint (budget?) on Russo's face. It really cheapens the whole story, especially when his scars are treated like a dramatic reveal. That said, I think Ben Barnes did a terrific job. He was a great bastard last season, and has a lot more to chew on here. Though I don't fully buy Krista as a character, I did buy into their relationship and Russo's semi-redemption through that relationship. I kind of wish the show had dropped his silly gang of easily corrupted veterans and just spent more time developing that bond with Krista. The final few episodes were pretty wrenching, and I was surprisingly sympathetic to him by the end. I was hoping Frank would just sit down next to the lad. That's not his style though.
Mudani - I was really digging the first few episodes of Frank and Amy's doomed road trip, and then Mudani dragged them to New York and everything got a little worse. Really not feeling Mudani's arc, especially where it ended. She was a terrible cop, and I thought she was learning that her thirst for vengeance made her a terrible cop. Then, 3 months later she's high enough in the CIA to offer Castle a job? Wut? Amber Rose Revah did fine with kinda shoddy material, but shout-out to her crazy eyes when fighting Krista.
Amy - The first episode introduced us to a pretty cool female counter-part to Frank: Beth, played by Alexa Davalos. Amy was pretty good too. It seems obvious to give Frank a surrogate child, and this hits all the beats pretty nicely. I found the drama around those photos a little limp, but John and the creepy cult were great fun early on.
Curtis - He's just a damn likeable guy isn't he? I found his behaviour in the last episode incredibly questionable though. 1) Releasing the senator to Mahoney. While I understand the moral dilema, surely Curtis understands that by freeing Frank's hostage he will likely doom Amy to die right? Hell, the senator seemed like a nice enough guy, I'm sure this would have crossed his mind too. 2) Calling Frank about Russo. Did he? I think he did. I was hoping Curtis was gonna do as asked and sit with Russo as he died. I figured he would at least do something morally neutral like call an ambulance.
John - A really interesting presence and often very intimidating. I found him superficially the better villain than Jigsaw. This lacked a lot of emotion weight though. He is really well played by Josh Stewart, at times terrifying and then deeply vulnerable. Sadly he is the best example of this season's biggest flaw. As said by others: There are 2 stories at play here and they do not cross-over at all. It bothered me a bit at first, but it's only once the season finale attempts to wrap everything up that you can see just how unrelated these things are. You're deep into the last act of the story and Frank's ultimate battle is with John, a man he still barely knows and is pretty neutral toward, while Russo - the nemesis with all the personal conflict - quietly bleeds out in a dumpster. I truly didn't know how to feel at a few points in the finale.
While it was nice to see Karen and Mahoney carry over from Daredevil, I wasn't too fond of either of their roles. Mahoney gets to be the fun-police until he sort of gives in at the end. Karen seemed really hot on Frank. I know they had a bond but did I miss the part where she loved him?
Overall the season doesn't hold up to much scrutiny, but I enjoyed it for the most part. I feel I could always do with more action, and Frank never used that damn minigun, but there were a few great sequences. 6/10
I'd go so far as to say, considering both seasons, it's the best thing marvel have put on the screen in any format.That was freaking awesome (just finished). Wow. Finally a Netflix/Marvel show without all the boring parts. Are you not entertained??
Crap ton of action. Character actually wearing his uniform for pretty much everything important.
The last 3 seconds of the show alone were worth it. Of course I would have loved to see exactly that expanded for 12 episodes alone.
The Punisher has been my favorite character for 30 years. And I'd say this could be the best we're ever gonna get. Most definitely the best Marvel/Netflix show to date. Complainers are ridiculous.
I might be in the minority but I liked Pilgrim, could they have done more with him? sure. But he was the first antagonist I saw that actually seemed like a threat to Frank. Like I said in the other thread, if Pilgrim was at a hundred percent I could totally buy him killing Frank. Russo's end was anticlimactic, but it's kinda in tone with the show so...eh. it is what it is. It did bug me they didn't acknowledge all the other crazy **** that went down in Harlem and hell's kitchen. I also REALLY wanted Frank to encounter Typhoid Mary, Dex, Kingpin, or even Kingpin Luke Cage down the line. Oh well ...