AHHHHHHHH!
I am THRILLED that the X-Men - but especially the FF are now a part of the MCU. I thought for sure that the FF would return someday, but that the X-Men would only return if Disney and Fox started making joint films if Fox started failing somehow. This is insane.
I want to thank everyone here, for keeping the hope alive - shout outs to Willie, RagnaroknRoll, Surfer, Iceman, First Avenger, DarkRaven, ADollarADay, Spider-Fan, along with so many others who Im forgetting. This thread was my refuge when FFINO came out. It is to internet threads what Doctor Doom is to comic book villains. I said Id only ever join when the FF came home to celebrate - so here I am!
Some stray thoughts -
There was one thing FF-related put out during the Fox years that I really enjoyed - the 07 FF cartoon show. The show was animesque in design, and the stories had the feel of the Waid/Wieringo run. By no means perfect, but lightyears away from the Fox films.
Marvels films - at their worst - were mediocre, but theyve yet to make a bad film. They have an amazing track record, and as the FF fit in perfectly with the MCU tone, Im excited to see what comes next.
I think theyll cast a Johnny around the same age as Peter is in the current films. Feiges in it for the LONG term - and by long, I mean I predict the MCU outliving me. He wants to get the most mileage out of these characters, and let us see them grow.
Can't wait to see Spidey mee the FF!
Im sure this deal has been in the works for quite some time. I doubt very much that this is only the result of several months worth of dealing. Im sure the roots of this goes back to when Ike was ousted, though serious negotiations may have only started more recently.
I think therell be a retcon for Wanda to be Magnetos daughter. Thats probably the strongest connection between the X-Men/Avengers worlds, and rife for drama.
Expect to see Surfer and Thor fight sometime in a cineplex near you! And expect a Surfer film!!!
I predict that well see an awesome FF/Moleman film, with the characters fighting bizarre underworld monsters.
I also cant wait to see that awesome time-traveling Avengers movie where they get characters from different eras to battle Kang!
I dont mind whether the FF come from the 60s or from the present. Time will tell.
I wonder if theyll diversify the FF cast. While I prefer characters to look like their iconic comic book counterparts (Barry not being blond on the CW bothers me for example), I also think its very important that kids watching superhero films see themselves in the characters. With a more diverse audience, its important that the characters - who are 99% white - start to reflect those who look up to them as heroes.
I wonder if we may see a cinematic Inhumans. I suspect that the TV/film characters dont crossover because in Kevins mind, the films are MCU canon, while the TV shows are not. By that I mean, from his perspective, you have characters who exist on the small screen and react/interact with his film universe, but in his films they dont really exist. I suspect this is because hes playing the long game. One day, eventually, there wont be a DD tv show. And he may feel comfortable reintroducing that character to his film world many years down the line. This is even more true for Inhumans, which, unlike DD, was a complete failure. Maybe in fifteen years time theyll be introduced into the MCU as supporting characters on Feiges terms. Just a theory.
Marvel has a mixed record with villains, but none of them have been downright horrible. At worst theyve been forgettable (Maleikith). But they did a good job with Red Skull and Hela, and a great job with Loki. When it comes to Doom, arguably greatest villain in comics, I think theyre going to take that very seriously. It cant get any worse than what we got from Fox. Heck, I wouldnt be surprised if Kevin through us a curveball and gave us a Doom film.
I hope Robert Downey Jr. will be around long enough for us to see a Doom vs Iron Man moment (I actually think hell survive Infinity War). Doom vs Strange would be great too.
Poor, poor, poor DC, stuck with Warner Brothers, and executives who dont reward creativity or comic book knowledge. Now there wont be any competition.
I would like to see R-Rated Deadpool movies continue, or at the very least, Ryan Reynolds continue as Deadpool. I wouldnt be surprised if Reynolds DP is brought over into the MCU. In any crossovers, hed be toned down. At the same time, I know Disney will strive to keep it all PG-13. Hmmm. I do hope they bring over DPs Colossus - they really did justice to him.
Itll be great to see Jean, Scott, Storm, and Beast all done justice - only major X-characters done well in the main Fox X-Men films were Wolvie, Magneto, and Prof X. I cant wait to see a colorful X-Men film. A shame that Fox is doing another Dark Phoenix film, but since theyre in it for the long haul, Im sure Marvel will do their own many years down the line. Make it so Kevin.
In a weird way, it all kind of worked out. Without Spidey, X-Men, and FF at the outset, Marvel had to make do, and they got to the point where they were giving us Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy movies - which I enjoyed. We probably wouldn't have seen these characters put to film until much later if Marvel had had all their characters from the beginning. Plus, the FF and X-Men can set the foundation for future films as the first cycle of Marvel movies comes to close. Its really transformational for their cinematic universe.
I loved Ragnarok, but boy, I hope Thor and Sif have a conversation down the line where they remember the W3. Unrelated, but I had to get that off my chest.
I wanted my name to be DetectiveStrange but there wasnt enough character space. Oh well.
At the end of the day, I am beyond thrilled that the FF and the X-Men are joining the MCU. However, I think Disney buying Fox is actually terrible for the film industry, for a many number of reasons. I wish it would have happened another way. But I cant help but also celebrate. And I cant wait to see a great Fantastic Four movies. I may not post again, so I'll say it one more time - thanks for keeping the hope alive!
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