The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Zyraquis]

This is what the Deadline article states:

"Officials at CADE (whose translated full name is The Administrative Council for Economic Defense) are said to now be satisfied after Disney offered some of the concessions they had requested. Once their OK is secured, a final closing period of about 10 days will begin as the final Ts are crossed and Is dotted, a source with knowledge of the regulatory process tells Deadline. That would mean an official closing in mid-March, which is in line with initial forecasts even if it is later than it appeared things would conclude by the last few weeks of 2018."

So they assumed Mexico (IFT not COFECE) will do the same in the same timeframe or earlier too since it sounds like Brazil is the last one and no one else....

 

[Detective Conan]

So they assumed Mexico (IFT not COFECE) will do the same in the same timeframe or earlier too since it sounds like Brazil is the last one and no one else....

Do you think the deal will close by mid-March like that article said or do you think the remaining markets(like Chile) will actually cause the deal to take longer than that to close? I have a feeling after the Brazilian approval tommorow we’ll have a clearer picture of when this deal will finally close. And I don’t see Mexico taking too long after Brazil to approve the deal.

 

[Zyraquis]

I also think it's the optimistic scenario and the all conditions will be cleared in March and closing will come shortly after.

Brazil -- pretty much will issue conditional approval Wednesday unless there is any 11th hour twist.
Mexico -- will be reviewed by IFT Wednesday too, and I can see a conditional approval coming and DIS must sell something
Chile -- this is a tricky one. FNE announced on Nov 19 it will start a review and nothing since, not even rumor of trouble in the press. Since phase I review last no more than 40 working days it could mean either it has been flipped to phase II or it has been approved (silence means approval with FNE too) and not announced by any parties. If it is indeed in phase II review because of whatever competition concerns, it could take up to another 90 days. We are in working day 70ish since the review process started mid-Nov so it could take theoretically another c.60 working days before FNE has to come out and say something and will still meet the 2nd termination date of the deal in June in any case.
The rest -- I would say either approved quietly, dealt with, or waived.

So the best case scenario is DIS sending a press release tomorrow or in a few days saying all conditions cleared and completion expected by early or mid-March (the street's forecast). If indeed Chile is the bloody last holdout, then I don't know perhaps DIS will actively do or promise something to speed it up. Our internal intel says it's unclear when FNE will announce the finding and make a decision but since the visibility is so low with FNE there is a chance it has already done so with DIS or let it go through with silence no phase II review despite some market concentration.

One last note: FNE approved Time Warner and ATT merger on Sept 4, 2017, almost one year after it was announced on Oct 22, 2016, and DIS and FOX deal review is taking already longer than that since it was announced in Dec 2017. It also came in the middle between Mexico (Aug 22) and Brazil (Oct 18), so they could come around the same couple of months one after another. I read that the ATT Time Warner merger actually increased the TV market concentration in some Latam countries already and may have made the DIS deal an additional concern especially it came not that long after that. In that deal the US was the last holdout and came in more than half a year after the FNE, on June 22, 2018 and the deal was closed two days later.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Take it with a grain of salt but I hope its true.

What is the summary of this video? But as was stated earlier, he is not a reliable source of info at all.

 

[Zyraquis]

Sounds like speculation even the guy said they heard chatters. It’s basically quid pro quo. Sony will agree to more Spider-Man content to MCU movies beyond triology including other characters like Kraven in exchange for DIS and Marvel letting it to get a dip into TV, toys even comics tie in.

 

[GoblinScrier]

So a couple of weeks and a decade of worrying we were never gonna see these characters come home is at an end? We need to all meet in a neutral location and party!!! LOL

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

So a couple of weeks and a decade of worrying we were never gonna see these characters come home is at an end? We need to all meet in a neutral location and party!!! LOL

I'm in Jersey just outside of Philly. Anyone close by?

...BUT, the fat lady is warming up, but she's not singing yet.

I'm looking for:

1. An official announcement from Brazil, Mexico and any other stragglers that they've agreed.

2. An official announcement of a closing date.

3. Seeing that actual closing date happen.

After #3, I'm going to breath a big sigh of relief ...

... and then start looking forward to the next announcements.

The cool thing is the moment the deal is closed, it's possible any character could show up at any time. We can go to Endgame with at least the possibility that Doom or Latveria or the Silver Surfer or Galactus or Reed Richards etc. etc. etc. could appear in some form.

 

[Zarex]

Interesting to see Kevin Feige using the term "MCU proper" to distinguish between the continuity of Marvel Studios Disney Plus programs and Marvel Television's output. I wouldn't be surprised if Loeb and his team focus on animation for Hulu and Disney XD going forward. With the Netflix Defenders D-U-N, it doesn't make sense for Marvel to have a second "improper" live action TV universe. I'm curious to see if Cloak and Dagger and Runways will continue on in the Perlmutter-verse.

Disney+ Marvel Shows Will Be Set in the Past, Present and Future of the MCU

 

[Endeavor]

I do hope Feige will be talking more openly about his plans for FF and the mutants. I'm just a bit afraid they will try to keep things more quiet so the hype about those characters getting back to Marvel won't outshine their movies currently in production, like The Eternals and Black Widow.

We have to expect some of that though. Feige is a fan, but he's also a professional, a business man.
It's better to keep our expectations moderate.
Just rest easy that the plans are there and good things are coming, finally.

 

[Endeavor]

If you guys are serious about a get together to celebrate this occasion in person, I'm down.
Just don't do it while I'm down in Brazil.

 

[Dark Raven]

If you guys are serious about a get together to celebrate this occasion in person, I'm down.
Just don't do it while I'm down in Brazil.

Are you going to Brazil to help the deal along?

I'm hoping it's safe to say now that we're in the Endgame.

 

[Endeavor]

Are you going to Brazil to help the deal along?

I'm hoping it's safe to say now that we're in the Endgame.

heheh

I'll be flying down on Saturday morning. So hopefully everything that we need from CADE will be a sure thing by then.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Interesting to see Kevin Feige using the term "MCU proper" to distinguish between the continuity of Marvel Studios Disney Plus programs and Marvel Television's output. I wouldn't be surprised if Loeb and his team focus on animation for Hulu and Disney XD going forward. With the Netflix Defenders D-U-N, it doesn't make sense for Marvel to have a second "improper" live action TV universe. I'm curious to see if Cloak and Dagger and Runways will continue on in the Perlmutter-verse.

Disney+ Marvel Shows Will Be Set in the Past, Present and Future of the MCU

I did notice that as well, but I would hesitate to use the term "Perlmutter-verse" at this point. Just seems MCU Proper in this context refers to the movies and such. The shows can still be MCU, but maybe like MCU-adjacent or whatever term they want to use going forward. We don't know what that context means in regards to how the shows are related in the MCU until someone prompts Feige for clarification.

 

[Marvel united]

Interesting to see Kevin Feige using the term "MCU proper" to distinguish between the continuity of Marvel Studios Disney Plus programs and Marvel Television's output. I wouldn't be surprised if Loeb and his team focus on animation for Hulu and Disney XD going forward. With the Netflix Defenders D-U-N, it doesn't make sense for Marvel to have a second "improper" live action TV universe. I'm curious to see if Cloak and Dagger and Runways will continue on in the Perlmutter-verse.

Disney+ Marvel Shows Will Be Set in the Past, Present and Future of the MCU

Exactly what what we've been saying. Feige probably doesn't consider the Netflix/SHIELF MCU proper

 

[Iceman]

Bloomberg: DISNEY-FOX DEAL WINS BRAZIL ANTITRUST OK PENDING SPORTS TV SALE

 

[Cobalt Panther]

This is it!

 

[Iceman]

Bloomberg:

Walt Disney Co.’s purchase of 21st Century Fox was approved by Brazil antitrust regulator after company agreed to sell the Fox Sports channel and program rights in the country.

• Board of antitrust regulator known as Cade voted 5 to 1 to approve the deal with restrictions
• NOTE: Brazil’s regulator had a legal deadline of March 17 to rule on the case
• NOTE: In U.S., the companies were made to sell 22 regional sports channels to complete the deal

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

heheh

I'll be flying down on Saturday morning. So hopefully everything that we need from CADE will be a sure thing by then.

If not, you can throw things at them.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Bloomberg:

I believe that's the first indication that it's actually approved as opposed to "expected to be approved".

 

[Marvel united]

Bloomberg:

Finally!

 

[Marvel united]

I believe that's the first indication that it's actually approved as opposed to "expected to be approved".

Indeed Disney's Fox Deal Gets Brazil Clearance Subject to Sale of Country's Fox Sports Channel

 

[Zarex]

I did notice that as well, but I would hesitate to use the term "Perlmutter-verse" at this point. Just seems MCU Proper in this context refers to the movies and such. The shows can still be MCU, but maybe like MCU-adjacent or whatever term they want to use going forward. We don't know what that context means in regards to how the shows are related in the MCU until someone prompts Feige for clarification.

I found Feige's wording to be fairly clear. He doesn't consider Marvel Television's output to be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

 

[Endeavor]

If not, you can throw things at them.

I could, but I don't have enough of the 1 thing they want: Money
lol

 

[Spider-Fan]

I found Feige's wording to be fairly clear. He doesn't consider Marvel Television's output to be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Again, that's speculatory. Could he mean that? Maybe. Could he mean that they're MCU but sort of a house divided still? Maybe. I'd like something more direct and exact. Hopefully someone asks him that question more directly.

 

[Detective Conan]

Indeed Disney's Fox Deal Gets Brazil Clearance Subject to Sale of Country's Fox Sports Channel

According to that article it says Disney expects to close the deal by June. While Deadline says it’s closing in March.

Interesting.