The Resident Evil Thread - Part 3

[zenith16]

Why Mikami shifted Resident Evil from horror to action

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There is a clear line of delineation within the Resident Evil series that splits the games into either the survival-horror camp of the originals, or the more action-focused affairs of Resident Evil 4 and beyond. Series creator Shinji Mikami says this switch in tone was fueled by the reception of the Resident Evil remake for the GameCube.

"The Resident Evil remake is actually one of my favorites of the series too. But it didn't sell very well," creator Shinji Mikami tells IGN. "Maybe there weren't many people ready to accept that. Because of the reaction to the Resident Evil remake, I decided to work more action into Resident Evil 4. Resident Evil 4 would have been a more scary, horror-focused game if the remake had sold well."

Resident Evil 4 has been displayed to the public in (at least) two distinct forms. There's the Resident Evil 4 we all know and love, but prototype video suggests an experience akin to the slow, hulking pace of the original games.

"That all came out of the commercial failure of the Resident Evil remake. And then of course Resident Evil 4 sold really well," Mikami says. "I have kind of a lingering trauma there, because the Resident Evil remake didn't sell – much more than people would think."
Source: IGN

 

[Ryo Jin]

Maybe if they didn't needlessly become Nintendo exclusive? Bunch of idiots.

 

[psylockolussus]

Resident Evil remake didn't sell that much because its exclusive to Gamecube and 2nd, the story is just not original. Yeah they upgraded the gameplay and the graphics and they added new things but still, its a remake to a previously released videogame and not a sequel.

 

[zenith16]

I'm not sure if it being exclusive was the problem after all
Resident evil 4 1.69 million on the gamecube


a 270,000 units difference is a sizeable number but I couldn't really say that REmake sold poorly in comparison. that's from VGchartz data so .


the thing is what's really wrong with what he said is after RE4 they completely strayed from what they did in that one game too .

It was a excellent mix with out one part overshadowing the other game play wise . cause as I keep repeating til this day it wasn't capcom that made it.

It was platinum games that did the magic and made it enjoyable other then that what he's saying is full crap cause he chose not to fallow that or any thing before that. and BTW they really didn't promote RE remake that well back then ether. Most people didn't know it was there on the game cube. So exclusivity be damned it's about letting it be known it was ever there.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Maybe if they didn't needlessly become Nintendo exclusive? Bunch of idiots.

REMake and Zero both, I believe, had direct funding from Nintendo, so those games probably never would've happened without Nintendo.

But yeah, I don't think that was the issue really. Looking at RE4, there was clearly an audience for the game on the 'Cube, even after they announced the PS2 version, which undercut sales I'm sure. I think it came more from fatigue of the formula. The clunky controls and camera angle tricks had been very dated, and an old hat by the time REMake came out.

I've not played REMake, so I'm not trying to comment directly to the quality of that game at all. Just the general feel of the franchise. A lot of hardcore fans will argue to their graves, I'm sure, but as early as RE3 the series was starting to show wear for a lot of people.

EDIT: Also, I'm kind of curious how much the REMake re-release on the Wii did, too. I remember RE4 and those on-rail games did pretty well, so maybe that helped boost numbers, too.

 

[zenith16]

Havok said some thing on this? When? Yeah I believe what you said to be accurate.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Oh yeah, my bad. I thought that was Havok's avatar on psy's post, for some reason

 

[Iceman]

The switch to action can't be the main problem as RE4 is rated as one of the best games of its type ever. And after all the criticism I heard about RE5 I though it was good, some crappy gameplay issues aside. His justifications for changing seem off but I don't think his changes are the whole reason for RE's decline.

 

[zenith16]

The switch to action can't be the main problem as RE4 is rated as one of the best games of its type ever. And after all the criticism I heard about RE5 I though it was good, some crappy gameplay issues aside. His justifications for changing seem off but I don't think his changes are the whole reason for RE's decline.

Yeah that's why I said they strayed from what Re4 did they kept the balance of horror and added action with no overshadowing between the two and this is what I said I find wrong.

Both the media for games and fans keep saying till this day (with some minor dislike /descent cause of what took place with 5 happening and some those dissenters pointed 4 as that problem.) Except that was what made 4 cool fresh and well talked about cause it kept the horror and added new stuff to it with out taking away lot if at all .

But with 5 they threw one out for the other. If anything that should have told them to keep that same formula. So that's what's so off with what he's saying. They always seem to be reading the wrong message out of things/I should say events like this. Especially when it talked about so often on what people liked about it both on tv and what makes it to the web for them to see.

The reason is very flawed and stupid. They're pointing in a lot of different directions when the answer was to keep the balance.

 

[zenith16]

Resident Evil 5 Is Capcom’s Best-Selling Game Ever. October 31, 2013 . 12:01pm

Resident Evil 5 is now Capcom’s best-selling game of all time. The game has sold over 6.5 million units across Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

Resident Evil 5 is now Capcom’s best-selling game of all time, the publisher revealed via its Investor Relations website this morning. The game has sold over 6.5 million units across Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 retail sales, as well as download sales.

(It would appear PC version sales are not being included, as Capcom specifically mention the PC platform in the case of Resident Evil: Revelations, but not RE5.)

Prior to Resident Evil 5, Capcom’s best-selling game was the original Street Fighter II. First released in 1992, that game sold 6.3 million copies on the Super NES.

Of course, if one were to add up the sales of every single version of Street Fighter II over the years, the sales figure would increase significantly. Here’s how every single version of SFII has done over the years:

Street Fighter II – 6.3 million (SNES)
Street Fighter II Turbo – 4.1 million (SNES)
Super Street Fighter II – 2 million (SNES)
Street Fighter II Plus – 1.65 million (Genesis)

That amounts to a total of nearly 14 million copies of Street Fighter II in some form or another.​

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source:Siliconera




well it's a lost cause with capcom

 

[ProjectPat2280]

And we all wonder why the series went away from horror.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Ah, okay so that totally didn't count re-releases. I was thinking there was no ****ing way that RE5 could possibly outsell SFII and all it's re-releases. It's not nearly the accomplishment either, since SFII did that on a single platform and they're counting two for RE5.

Not to **** on the numbers, though. It's still good.

 

[Rodrigo90]

The perfect Leon and Claire

I'd swear that's who they were based on!

 

[zenith16]

Maybe if Kojima ran the Res franchise, yeah it would be that way. lol

 

[Rodrigo90]

Kojima should control everything in the gaming world

 

[zenith16]

Features



Top 100 Games #11: Evil Reborn

Resident Evil 4 comes in at #11 in the ROTR Top 100 Games.

Source :EPD.TV/ROTR

I really like what was said here by vic on where capcom went wrong with the other games, after this was made. And the fact they showed what Tommy Tolerico said in the flash back review which confirmed what Tron Bonne said about certain people(himself included as seen here ) being tired of how the game play style was done til that point until RE4 came on the scene. Shat capcom did was screw them selves over by always reading into the wrong things and not really listening.

That's why they are where they at to day unfortunately. Re4 kept the horror and made it balanced and the acttion that was added didn't over showdow it or vis versa . it was balanced it 's the fact that when capcom was making 5 after loosing platinum games which made 4 they chose to drop the horror. they should have maintained the balance after 4. they just didn't want to.

 

[james-in-cali]

I have been playing the high def ps3 port of re4 recently and it is still a great game even though I have went through it 100 times on the game cube. It will always have a spot it my top 10 games ever, and that got me thinking. .... I have bought 250$ worth of resident evil games since 4 that have been terrible just because I want to experience re4 again. I guess 5 was decent and Leon's part of 6 was close to being good but that's it.

The little bit I have heard about re7 is it might be released next year, so I don't think we will be getting a great game then either with it being pushed out so quick.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

That's good ranking I suppose
What is their top 10? Or they take long to set each one the full 100 isn't ready yet?
Ai Yori Aoshi

 

[zenith16]

another one of cap come reasoning's



Main Resident Evil Fanbase Is In Its 30s And 40s Says Capcom. December 26, 2013 . 5:30pm

The “main user group” for the Resident Evil games is now in its late-30s to 40s, Capcom have revealed.

The “main user group” for the Resident Evil games is now in its late-30s to 40s, Capcom have revealed. In a feature highlighting the series on their Investor Relations website, Capcom say that this poses the risk of these fans growing older and older and eventually outgrowing videogames altogether.

As always, the solution is to try and appeal to a younger generation of gamers, in an effort to ensure that you always have new players being introduced to the Resident Evil games. One approach Capcom are taking to help facilitate this is carrying out collaborations with fashion magazines.

Capcom say they’re collaborating with fashion brands that are popular among young people to help give Resident Evil more exposure among the youth.

Other marketing and promotional activities include appealing to non-gamers through a “Halloween Horror Night” event held in alliance with Universal Studios Japan and the opening of a Resident Evil café in Shibuya, Tokyo.​

source:Siliconera



be ready for leon to have even more wavy HAIR PEEPS.

 

[Benstamania]

I read that as "Be ready for Leon to have even more wavy Herpes."

 

[Tron Bonne]

I wonder what it is they're basing this off of? Seems fairly random to me. I don't know that many people in that age group who play or even know the games. Mostly people in their twenties who played them in their teens.

 

[Benstamania]

The vast majority of my friends are, like myself in their very early 30's (I myself just turned 30 in September) and we all remember the original games fondly. I wouldn't be shocked to find out that the fanbase was in their 30's/40's.. However, that fanbase probably do not like the games as they are now.. So..why they would change things up in hopes for a NEW fanbase is beyond me.

 

[zenith16]

lol bens that would be scary if there was such a thing. made laugh though


well Tronny I think the only people that fit that category are some certain reviewers, like the people at giant bomb and EPD.TV/RoTR to name a few that remind capcom of their mistakes on what we the fans actually want of which Capcom keep choosing not to fully listen too. like what made Res 4 cool which was the balance between horror and action with out over shadowing each other as shown up top prior to this, with look back of the game was released which capcom choose's to drop, what was done and made it liked in thefirst place cause they are listening to some one /something else who is very, Veryyyyyyyy stupid.


And yes there are some 40 somethings that play games, not as much as the 30's and under ae group do, but they do. I have a friend I consider a big brother figure that does.

Any way it's obvious why they said this. it was jab of sorts and that they didn't learn a damn thing.

 

[Havok83]

RE first came out when I was in middle school and Im 30 now. If its largely the same fanbase that grew up with it, then yeah I can buy that a good chunk of its fanbase are in their late 30s.

 

[zenith16]

there's no doubt their in their 30's that doesn't mean their siblings and cousins didn't get into to it though. that's how it works I thin they were looking at who was supposedly of age to buy it and the those that were close to 20's or were that might have picked it up of which the same still applies's . If that latter group is in they're 40's it doesn't mean they didn't pass it down to show others related to them or who they know how cool it was back then.