Comics The Secret Origin of the Secret Identity of the Hobgoblin

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http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=50723

An interesting article about what was going behind the scenes at Marvel when Hobgoblin was introduced. And after reading it I'm not surprised there were quite a few "what the... ?!"-moments regarding that character in the 80's. A big mess of too many editors and writers, only surpassed by what was going on in the 90's with the clone mess.

 

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Part 2 of the article:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=50768

 

[KaineMorrison]

Did you read some of the comments to the article? There's some seriously pissed off people there...
One person went so far as to say that the HobGoblin Saga is worse than either the Clone Saga or the BND/OMD story.

 

[runawayboulder]

Here's part 1 of a terrific series on the same subject:

http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/SquanderedLegacy/SquanderedLegacyPart1.html

 

[Themanofbat]

Did you read some of the comments to the article? There's some seriously pissed off people there...
One person went so far as to say that the HobGoblin Saga is worse than either the Clone Saga or the BND/OMD story.

I can understand the sentiment... having read the original HobGoblin stories as they came out, it was friggin' awesome stuff... Stern has truly created a Goblin character that could live on the "goblin" legacy with Spider-Man without all the drama involving Harry... and then to just watch it fall apart month after month and then a reveal that really made little sense...

Clone Saga = marketing told creators to draw story out
OMD = editorial mandate
HobGoblin = creator pettiness

Of all those scenarios, the HobGoblin one is the one that really should not have happened as such if everyone involved had been more professional.

 

[runawayboulder]

Yeah we've had to deal with a lot of bulls**t as Spider-Man fans haven't we?

 

[Themanofbat]

The worst part is that, as a reader at that time... the HobGoblin mystery really grabbed us by the gotcha's... and it all just fell flat... and by the time the reveal happened... over 4 years later... nobody cared... and when I read NOW how that all went down... it makes me mad as well... moreso than the Clone Saga and OMD... neither of which made me mad... Clone Saga was an eye-roll whatever reaction, and OMD was the key to greater goodness (as lame as the actual story was).

 

[Picard Sisko]

The Hobgoblin still has great potential as a story, so I think if it was ever re-told again, they can get rid of all the elements that made it blah!

 

[Themanofbat]

But you can't start new... it's been told...

At least Stern was able to make the HobGoblin viable again with the "HobGoblin Lives" mini-series, and we've able to get decent Kingsley stories since then...

 

[KaineMorrison]

I'd like to see some things undone in Spider-Nuity...
Ned still being alive, Bannon still being alive...
Katzenburg can stay dead, that was a well written exit... and it made sense.

They should do to Spider what they did to X-Men...
Make a Spider-Man Forever series!
Start it where all the editorial/Marketing and Jealousy was beginning. Make everything back to how it should be!

 

[runawayboulder]

Lance Bannon was a pretty much useless character for the last decade of his existence. He and Nick Katzenberg were pretty much interchangeable. There's no need for either one at this point. Peter's photography past is pretty much behind him.