Derrick9592
8 hours 51 minutes ago Hide Report Spam
A Batman and Robin remake!
Lol
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~rainingcrow
4 hours 33 seconds ago Hide it could potentially work if done right. the chemistry and premise need to be closer to the way the cartoon "the batman" portrays robin and batgirl... basically meaning that at the beginning of their "hero" careers, batgirl should be no older than 16 and robin should not exceed 15, these characters are supposed to start young and grow up doing this essentialy... no chris o donnells or alicia silverstones.
and in my opinion, if they ever did robin... bruce needs to adopt him around 7, and he shouldnt even know bruces secret until like 10, and become "robin" only after at least four years of training... And the relationship between him and bruce needs to be very clearly a father son type of relationship not a buddy partner thing.(hence the very teen design of robins costume, implementing colors and stylized differences from bruces... batman is like his dad... have you ever tried to get a teenager to wear what you wanted them too?)
batgirl, should have attitude, so basically i see her this way. Her old man is the police commisioner. Shes lived in a city where her family has been abducted, and threatened, her dad has been targeted and the streets arent safe at night. She thinks batman has the right idea. She's fed up, and is going to do something about it wether its acceptable or not.
Barbara gordon as batgirl shouldnt start out as this full fledged sidekick figure, she's a stand alone crusader with strong motives and actions. She simply used the batman as inspiration because she saw that it worked. She gets her own supplies, she creates her own suit, and shows tremendous inginuity.
when she goes out at night its sneaking out a bedroom window with no back up to call... eventually bruce feels he has to accept her pressence and work with her because she is as devoted as he is, and will not give up or back down. So he figures at least if he works with her, it will make things less dangerous.
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~rainingcrow 3 hours 53 minutes ago Hide actually I think batgirl should kinda have her own movie, that eventually leads to a tie in with batman...
and ideally the dick grayson storyline would have to be spread out over like three movies for him to become robin... I think that the development of bruce basically becoming a father and how that leads to him appenticing robin would have to be explored properly.
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~Derrick9592 1 hour 45 minutes ago Hide Report Spam I like it and you do have a point. As long as they don't make it too corny as the early Schmacher Batman movies.
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~rainingcrow 1 hour 19 minutes ago Hide oh yeah those sucked balls
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~michiganj24
7 hours 8 minutes ago Hide Report Spam No offense to you but I really hope its never made because I like Nolan on the films and he said if they ever put Robin in the films he walks as it so does not fit his vibe
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~rainingcrow 4 hours 17 minutes ago Hide whic is exactly why it will never be made... bale said he would walk if they did robin too
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~michiganj24 3 hours 50 minutes ago Hide Report Spam And quite frankly I agree. the best Batman stuff has been the darker stuff and robin immediately makes everything lighter. Burton did wonders as Gothic Schumacher sucked with glitz then Nolan went dark again and we love
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~rainingcrow 3 hours 30 minutes ago Hide a robin storyline could be dark honestly... just treat his training and growth simmilar to bruces, except he has a mentor who stands by him.
the emotions and depth that a robin storyline could potentiall bring are something that most creators in previous film incarnations have chosen not to explore. Imagine if you will; Bruce adopts dick basically because he cant help it... he looks at him giving his report in the police station... he sees him talking to gordon, and he sees himself. he remembers the feelings... but when he first adopts him, robin dosent speak... he's a 7 yr old kid who's scared and angry and mute. Him and bruce kind of co exist in the same world, but neither one of them knows how to deal with his being there... but he comes home from school with a black eye... through bruce teaching him how to defend himself, they connect. The bond grows over the years and the self defense classes have now become training, ***** sadness has now become anger... and bruce finds himself dealing with a young teenager before he knows it.
what happens in a father son relationship when the son decides he wants to put himself in harms way? As he grows and matures, eventually knowing bruce is batman...he wants in. He has legitimate arguments, and while bruce never saw it before he essentially has molded his protege... and now robin is ready to be born.
treat it simmilar to what happens in second generation cops, or multigenerational military families.
and during all of this emotional story and struggle you have the issues of bruce beginning to have someone else he has to take care of. A reason he can't let himself get killed or hurt. He has a personal stake in keeping the streets safe again but he also has to balance this openess with his secracy. He puts dick to bed with a story about knights in shining armor, and then goes downstairs and puts on his own.
A great way that this could be worked into the action is what happens when one of batmans villains takes a schoolbus hostage, with dick inside.
I also think dick and barbara should meet at school early off. she should be about four years older than him, and a little protective and sympathetic... eventually they could form a kind of brother sister bond before either of them even know what the other has been up to.
