The Sinister Six Thread

My worry is this dimension hopping Sinister Six is just a variation on Sony's plans around the time of the hack. They were cooking up some terrible nonsense that has everybody laughing at them. I just want to see something resembling the classic villain team trying to take down Spider-man.



Personally I don't think Venom or Morbius have any place on a Sinister Six team. They're both anti-heroes, not villains in Sony's movies. I don't want a hero team like Sony were planning before. Kraven isn't a natural fit either, but at least he's a straight up villain.

And no DeHaan Harry/Green Goblin. Not even once. I don't want to see such a bastardisation of story and character again.

 

Well if that comic is anything to go by they certainly have those villains used already.

Doc ock and sandman from Raimi-verse

Electro and maybe green goblin from TASM'verse

And Vulture and Mysterio from MCU.

Venom in the Sonyverse is not a villain. he is an anti-hero. while Brock is more a grounded guy. one day they will do a cross over with Spider-man, but its not gonna be like the comics.

 

I'm still not feeling the idea of a multiverse Sinister Six, so my picks are based on the idea that it's solely villains from the main MCU:

Vulture
Mysterio
Electro
Shocker (hopefully with an upgraded suit and equipment)
Scorpion

The 6th member is a toughie for me and I'd imagine it's gonna be whoever the 2nd villain is in SM3 (cause we all know its probably not just Electro). Ideally it would be Doc Ock as the leader if he's indeed in this movie. If not, I don't know if there's enough time for Ock to establish himself as a villain as well as him creating and leading a team for revenge against Spidery since it seems Sony is wanting Sinister Six sooner than later.

If Ock is not the 2nd villain and it ends up being say Kraven since he's been rumored, then I'd guess I'd have Vulture be the leader of the team. I know people pegged him to be the Sandman of the group (he wants revenge but is a bit reluctant for family reasons) but based on Keaton's portrayal in Homecoming I can easily see this version being a leader. Alternatively, this version of Mysterio wouldn't be a bad choice as a leader either.

 

At this point, as far as speculation goes,nothing is off the table in terms of who will be part of the sinister six,and which version of the character will be part of the Sinister six.

I also think that the fact a character has been used before in another iteration shouldn't be automatically dismissed as possibly appearing in the S6 or SM3.

Feige and Sony have never stated that they wouldn't use Doc Ock, GG, Sandman, Electro, Rhino, etc, ever again. That may have been an assumption ,but there's never been anything to indicate they wouldn't appear eventually in the MCU let alone another Spiderman film.

They're bringing in Dr Doom, The F4, and The X Men, so you can bet they'll eventually bring in Doc Ock and other classic Spiderman villains.

I would be reluctant to proclaim, " That actor would never appear again !" or " Marvel wouldn't do that!".

We just don't know what's going on behind the scenes , what discussions are taking place, and what vision Sony and Marvel have for handling the Spiderman franchise going forward.

I think the assumption in fandom was the SM3 would be a film in which Peter was on the run after his identity was exposed and that Kraven would be hunting him.

I think given the recent casting revelations, rumors, and tea leaf reading, SM3 is possibly going to be a film with a much wider scope than Peter just fighting 1 villain and completing senior year.

Like Flashpoint at WB, SM3 looks like it could be an event film as opposed to a smaller conclusion to the first three films.

 

That’s my lineup. don‘t know whom I replace with Scorpion. Maybe Scorpion dies pretty soon and Mysterio surprises with not being dead and replacing him.

Definitely no to Shocker (because boring), Morbius (should be an antihero and have connections to Blade) and Venom (definitely needs to face Spiderman alone)
Same for Green Goblin - he needs an epic encounter on his own

 

All I ask for is Master Planner Ock please.

 

I think with the reported Kraven movie its even more likely to get Kraven in HC3. There he‘ll be the vilain and in his own he‘ll be the misunderstood protagonist antihero...

 

A couple of novel ideas struck me if this were to be a cross dimension Sinister six.

1. Roderick Kingsley's Hobgoblin could be considered for membership without having to worry about setting up any other Goblin characters. Green Goblin should never be a member imo.

2. You could have two Mysterios (hear me out). I've said before that Mysterio could use an assistant/body double that really plays on the magician's sleight of hand stage act he has going on. Though it being multi-dimensional you could have the second Mysterio either be Daniel Berkhart or a Quentin Beck from another dimension. Either way I know who would be great to play him...

Spoiler

 

Hell yes to you-know-who playing Mysterio.

 

fandomwire says there will indeed be ALOT of villains in the movie.

Spoiler

He says Electro is in it, new look and suit. but its the same one from TASM2. and that SM1 green goblin could appear, or at least the goblin costume since Osborn is still assumed dead. and Kraven, Scorpion, Vulture, Mysterio also. with the possibility of more.

Marvel/Sony apparently want a big final battle for the final of the trilogy. which is where the spider-men come into it.

 

How reliable is fandomwire?

If it's multiverse my picks would be Scorpion and Vulture from MCU; Electro from TASM; Sandman and GG from Raimi verse.....and new guy as Kraven.

Michael Mando, Michael Keaton, Jamie Foxx, Willem Dafoe and Thomas Hayden Church would be some ensemble. Can't see Molina returning as just not enough time to dedicate to the subplot between him and Maguire.

 

If Sinister Six, then only with (fishbowl) Mysterio

 

Fandom Wire is not a reputable source.

 

Apparently Daniel Richtman posted it on his Patreon some time before Fandomwire. so some are speculating whether they both heard from source or whether Fandomwire just took from Daniel Richtman

 

Cool fan art by BossLogic.

 

If they were to have a Goblin on the team then I wouldn't mind James Franco as an alternate version of Hobgoblin with the classic costume adapted in some way. Though having Dafoe return would be great too. Anything but DeHaan's Green Goblin at least.

I'm also noticing not much is being said about Scorpion despite the first movie setting up Mac Gargan. I'm wondering if he's going to Sony eventually and that's why they're holding off on him.

Shocker is still out there too, but personally I'd skip him being on the Six when you have potential bigger names as candidates. I'd still like to see him return at some point in his comic costume though.

 

If it were solely an MCU Six

Vulture
Mysterio
Shocker
Scorpion
Electro
Ock

Interdimensional

Sandman(Raimi)
Electro(ASM)
Rhino(ASM)
Scorpion(MCU)
Mysterio(MCU)
Vulture(MCU)

With Norman Osborn(Raimi) Revealed as the mastermind. They can adapt the whole Europe storyline from the comics to skirt around his death.

 

Eh. It wouldn't feel right to me to exclude Doc Ock from the Sinister Six.

 

Ive always thought of S6 as a D&D (RPG) style team, where each member brings something unique to the group ... you typically have different classes such as
Tank :
Range:
Healer/supply surport:
Flyer:
Wizard/power :
Rogue /stealth :
So who of characters we've already seen or could be easily introduced fits these roles best
As you don't want too many of the same character type in a party

 

My ideal lineup:

Doctor Octopus (Raimi)
Sandman (Raimi)
Vulture
Mysterio
Electro
Kraven

The line up I think we'll end up with

Vulture
Mysterio
Electro
Shocker
Scorpion
Kraven

I can't be 100% sure Ock will be included until they cast him, so they could go for a lineup without him and with Mysterio as the leader, since he's MCU Spidey's most personal adversary at this point.