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I decided to make a thread dedicated to what we all know is coming. Whether it be in MCU Spider-Man 3 or sometime after, the Sinister Six will be coming. But the path to assembling them and when they will appear is less clear.
So, what do we know so far?
Vulture is easiest to start with. He was in Homecoming and the trailer for Morbius shows he will be gracing our screens again. Granted there is some question about why he would join given he was not really outright evil, but he is a classic member of the team and there is clearly future plans for him. So, easy insert.
Mysterio comes next to discuss. But wait, didn't he die in FFH? Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Mysterio is an illusionist, so they can easily explain him being alive as well....fooled ya! But even if Beck is dead, we could always see someone else take up the mantle. Mysterio was more an idea anyway, so bringing in a character like Danny Burkhart (the 2nd comics Mysterio) could be an easy solution. But more likely, I just see his death being a trick. I think we can safely put him on the list as well.
Electro coming to the next movie broke the internet. Especially given we are seeing Jamie Foxx return. I am not excited about this really at all. But I will ignore that for this discussion. We do not know for sure if he is the literal same Electro from TASM2 or not, but regardless. Classic member of the team. Clearly he was selected for a reason. I think adding him is safe.
Past these 3, certainty becomes less clear. We know some candidates, but not who actually will join.
Kraven at one point seemed a lock for MCU Spider-Man 3's villain. But Sony for a while has talked about doing a solo Kraven film. This seemed confusing when the Sony verse and MCU seemed to be different entities, but it feels like the 2 are more connected than we thought given the connection between Homecoming and Morbius with Toomes appearing in Morbius. Reports by the writer indicate Spider-Man is part of the movie. I think this signals likely intent to include him on the team. But I think it hinges on Sony and Marvel Studios playing nice.
Scorpion was introduced in Homecoming in his non powered form. He alluded to having friends on the outside. Does this mean he will return for revenge, this time maybe with a Scorpion suit? I think it is logical, but when will we see this come to pass is the real question? Still, they had to throw that idea out there for a reason, right?
Shocker was a minor villain in Homecoming. He has ties to Toomes. Would seem logical for Toomes to bring his friend along to bring down the Spider, but is the character maybe too low tier to be used again? I think if we assume that Vulture, Mysterio, and Electro are safe bets, that Shocker becomes unlikely if both Kraven and another bigger name villain appear.
Morbius has been a foe of Spider-Man in the comics. He is getting his own movie. Toomes is in the movie. Will Toomes maybe try and recruit the newly minted vampire to join his friends and cause some trouble? I think teasing the Sinister Six in the movie is possible, but I have a hard time believing this likely anti-hero version of Morbius will have any real need to join this team. Still, he is someone to add to this list of possible members, even if unlikely.
Venom actor Tom Hardy has hinted at wanting to cross over with Tom Holland. He is a traditional Spider-Man villain. But like Morbius, this is Lethal Protector Venom. I don't see him joining a villain squad. So chances are remote at best.
Then there is the issue of leader. Really 2 names standout:
Green Goblin was meant to form the team in TASM franchise should it have continued. He has the resources. He is the arch-enemy of Spider-Man. It would make sense to use him to assemble the team.
Doc Ock is the traditional team leader. We also have not seen the male version since SM2, but we did see female Ock in a multiverse spanning movie. Could this female Ock from Spiderverse be our leader? Or may we see a more traditional Master Planner Ock introduced?
We also have the question of Multiverse. Is Electro our only villain from possibly another world? Or may we see another return of a prior Spider-Man villain returning in the franchise? Like, Thomas Haden Church as Sandman? He did survive SM3 and floated off somewhere. Yeah he seemed done with crime,, but maybe he regressed? Or what Alfred Molina as Doc Ock or even Willem Dafoe as Norman. Both died in their respective films, but maybe they get the JK Simmons treatment and return as parallel versions in the MCU?
There is a lot of possibilities. Lots to discuss. How do you all see it playing out?
My guess:
Vulture, Mysterio, Electro, Scorpion, Kraven, and led by Doc Ock. My bet is Electro is a secondary villain in the new Spider-Man, but the main is likely Doc Ock. What his plan is and such, no clue. But that is my current guess. Also undecided if they will give us a new version, a parallel version, or whatever. I think they will want Norman as an ongoing future threat. Maybe just as Norman the businessman for a few movies before turning him Goblin. So Ock makes more sense to me.
So, what do we know so far?
Vulture is easiest to start with. He was in Homecoming and the trailer for Morbius shows he will be gracing our screens again. Granted there is some question about why he would join given he was not really outright evil, but he is a classic member of the team and there is clearly future plans for him. So, easy insert.
Mysterio comes next to discuss. But wait, didn't he die in FFH? Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Mysterio is an illusionist, so they can easily explain him being alive as well....fooled ya! But even if Beck is dead, we could always see someone else take up the mantle. Mysterio was more an idea anyway, so bringing in a character like Danny Burkhart (the 2nd comics Mysterio) could be an easy solution. But more likely, I just see his death being a trick. I think we can safely put him on the list as well.
Electro coming to the next movie broke the internet. Especially given we are seeing Jamie Foxx return. I am not excited about this really at all. But I will ignore that for this discussion. We do not know for sure if he is the literal same Electro from TASM2 or not, but regardless. Classic member of the team. Clearly he was selected for a reason. I think adding him is safe.
Past these 3, certainty becomes less clear. We know some candidates, but not who actually will join.
Kraven at one point seemed a lock for MCU Spider-Man 3's villain. But Sony for a while has talked about doing a solo Kraven film. This seemed confusing when the Sony verse and MCU seemed to be different entities, but it feels like the 2 are more connected than we thought given the connection between Homecoming and Morbius with Toomes appearing in Morbius. Reports by the writer indicate Spider-Man is part of the movie. I think this signals likely intent to include him on the team. But I think it hinges on Sony and Marvel Studios playing nice.
Scorpion was introduced in Homecoming in his non powered form. He alluded to having friends on the outside. Does this mean he will return for revenge, this time maybe with a Scorpion suit? I think it is logical, but when will we see this come to pass is the real question? Still, they had to throw that idea out there for a reason, right?
Shocker was a minor villain in Homecoming. He has ties to Toomes. Would seem logical for Toomes to bring his friend along to bring down the Spider, but is the character maybe too low tier to be used again? I think if we assume that Vulture, Mysterio, and Electro are safe bets, that Shocker becomes unlikely if both Kraven and another bigger name villain appear.
Morbius has been a foe of Spider-Man in the comics. He is getting his own movie. Toomes is in the movie. Will Toomes maybe try and recruit the newly minted vampire to join his friends and cause some trouble? I think teasing the Sinister Six in the movie is possible, but I have a hard time believing this likely anti-hero version of Morbius will have any real need to join this team. Still, he is someone to add to this list of possible members, even if unlikely.
Venom actor Tom Hardy has hinted at wanting to cross over with Tom Holland. He is a traditional Spider-Man villain. But like Morbius, this is Lethal Protector Venom. I don't see him joining a villain squad. So chances are remote at best.
Then there is the issue of leader. Really 2 names standout:
Green Goblin was meant to form the team in TASM franchise should it have continued. He has the resources. He is the arch-enemy of Spider-Man. It would make sense to use him to assemble the team.
Doc Ock is the traditional team leader. We also have not seen the male version since SM2, but we did see female Ock in a multiverse spanning movie. Could this female Ock from Spiderverse be our leader? Or may we see a more traditional Master Planner Ock introduced?
We also have the question of Multiverse. Is Electro our only villain from possibly another world? Or may we see another return of a prior Spider-Man villain returning in the franchise? Like, Thomas Haden Church as Sandman? He did survive SM3 and floated off somewhere. Yeah he seemed done with crime,, but maybe he regressed? Or what Alfred Molina as Doc Ock or even Willem Dafoe as Norman. Both died in their respective films, but maybe they get the JK Simmons treatment and return as parallel versions in the MCU?
There is a lot of possibilities. Lots to discuss. How do you all see it playing out?
My guess:
Vulture, Mysterio, Electro, Scorpion, Kraven, and led by Doc Ock. My bet is Electro is a secondary villain in the new Spider-Man, but the main is likely Doc Ock. What his plan is and such, no clue. But that is my current guess. Also undecided if they will give us a new version, a parallel version, or whatever. I think they will want Norman as an ongoing future threat. Maybe just as Norman the businessman for a few movies before turning him Goblin. So Ock makes more sense to me.
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