The Strongest In The Marvel Universe?

[Varient]

Dude, we all know Squirrel girl will be finishing this war and you know it.

Gee I hope not.
Keep Ol' Bush tail out of this ill concieved mess.

Seriously:

We have HOW MANY SUPERPOWERED BEINGS in the Solar System Alone?

I dare say the Titans coulda cruised up in passing and Whooped the warbound.

The General Mutant population could've risen up,.. all ,.. well I lost count but they are a lil more than ahundred - and sent that ship packing.

I'm honestly surprised that the 300 or so ACTIVE heroes on Earth in the Marvel Universe hasn't handled it.


Yet the story is written with all the true heavyweights being indecisive or taking stupid pills, (c'mon,.. two guys that both have ways to beat a planet eater can't figure out a way to beat the hulk?)

An easy out here would've been Pym hitting the ship with Pym Particles.

An even Easier out would be Reed or Stark (Via Shield/Sword) or the Xmen (via the Shiar tech they have used for over 20 years) to transport the warbound to the other end of the galaxy.

And in this abortion sumbody wants to put the only incorruptable, true hero for the right reasons HERO that marvel HAS????

No thank you,... better she dies in her sleep.

 

[Spade]

Squirrel Girl will never be a consideration for ending something this large, so I think it's fair to say she's safe from "sullying" or whatever one might see her involvement as being.

 

[CBG]

Squirrel Girl would not waste her time with such trivial matters, anyways. And when there are matters of such importance, she'll handle the majority of them off-panel.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeppers, Machine Man is a great character one of my favorites. I thought the Earth X Machine Man was pretty cool too

Also when did he go toe to toe with Alpha Flight? I know he fought Sasquatch, but the whole team?

It wasn't the entire team. But in his own, short-lived title he fought Sasquatch, Northstar, Aurora and Puck I think.

 

[King_Mungi]

It wasn't the entire team. But in his own, short-lived title he fought Sasquatch, Northstar, Aurora and Puck I think.

It was Machine Man #18, and I'm almost positive he only fought Sasquatch. Northstar and Aurora were in it but they never fought him. Definetly no Puck.

 

[Spade]

Squirrel Girl would not waste her time with such trivial matters, anyways. And when there are matters of such importance, she'll handle the majority of them off-panel.

Does Squirrel Girl do much of anything to have her time wasted?

 

[PhotoJones]

She pines for Robbie. That's about it.

 

[ang_hulk]

First of all you have no proof that he did beat him.

Second of all if by 'there' you mean the trophy room, well he obviously didn't put it 'there' because he didn't even know where there was. Through out the story he is looking for Rick's secret base. You think he would have had to spend so much time looking for it if he had been there before (not just been there but stocked it with the belongings of the dead heroes including Mjolnir? Seriously who 'forgets' where they put Mjolnir when that place happens to be the base of their enemy?) Heck even when he did stumble upon the room he had no idea Mjolnir was there. (Yes. That's right, I just crushed you t

And thirdly, when the Maestro did discover Mjolnir he tried to lift it and couldn't even budge it.

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so you think thor put it thier? and your just going by what you think happend.at one point he could use the hammer.just because he didnt know it ended up thier doesnt nesserly mean he didnt use it or know he could hae used it at one time,like i said,he checked on it,got the ok(because marvel felt it so) and did it.made it the focal point.now you may say to yourself they oked it to get sales,thats jesses desision,he didnt need thier approval,he called to check how legit it was.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

so you think thor put it thier? and your just going by what you think happend.at one point he could use the hammer.just because he didnt know it ended up thier doesnt nesserly mean he didnt use it or know he could hae used it at one time,like i said,he checked on it,got the ok(because marvel felt it so) and did it.made it the focal point.now you may say to yourself they oked it to get sales,thats jesses desision,he didnt need thier approval,he called to check how legit it was.

It's not likely that he had used it before if he couldn't use it at a later date. Although both are assumptions here is how you could logically come to the conclusion he did not use it before.

1. He certainly did not use it due to being worthy. If he was killing heroes and taking over the world while losing his mind he would not be deemed worthy, very few are.

2. Let's assume Maestro did use mjilnor before. If he did use it before when all the fighting was going on he would have been weaker. Why? Because the more time passes the stronger he would get due to absorbing more radiation. Remember this was professor Hulk at the time, his strength did not increase when enraged.

3. If he did use it before when he was not a strong due to not having absorbed as much radiation as he would when he met his past self, then why could he not lift mjilnor when he did come upon it in the trophy room.

4. Therefore he must not have used it previously. Due to the fact that he would have been stronger when he came upon it later in the trophy room due to absorbing more radiation.

As Vicky would say "My logic is undeniable."

 

[ang_hulk]

It's not likely that he had used it before if he couldn't use it at a later date. Although both are assumptions here is how you could logically come to the conclusion he did not use it before.

1. He certainly did not use it due to being worthy. If he was killing heroes and taking over the world while losing his mind he would not be deemed worthy, very few are.

2. Let's assume Maestro did use mjilnor before. If he did use it before when all the fighting was going on he would have been weaker. Why? Because the more time passes the stronger he would get due to absorbing more radiation. Remember this was professor Hulk at the time, his strength did not increase when enraged.

3. If he did use it before when he was not a strong due to not having absorbed as much radiation as he would when he met his past self, then why could he not lift mjilnor when he did come upon it in the trophy room.

4. Therefore he must not have used it previously. Due to the fact that he would have been stronger when he came upon it later in the trophy room due to absorbing more radiation.

As Vicky would say "My logic is undeniable."

prof hulk want anywhere near maestro and yes his strength does increase with rage.I think he was worthy at one time but not thier after.

 

[bkhedr]

rubbish

no incarnation of the Hulk has ever been close to worthy

I've said it before:

EITHER that is where Thor died or last dropped the hammer OR Rick Jones had it moved there with a fork lift or something.

There is no third option.

The Maestro did not and could not lift it.

The Maestro did not even know it was there.

Now if he can't lift it and he doesn't know its there obviously he didn't put it there. My god man, its so blatantly obvious it makes 1+1=2 seem complicated.

You are rejected every thing that makes sense because you want to believe in a TOYMAKER's fanboyish fantasy.

 

[DACMAN]

prof hulk want anywhere near maestro and yes his strength does increase with rage.I think he was worthy at one time but not thier after.

Well, what's funny is you're both kind of right.


This is from an offical Marvel website.

http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/info/hulk-incarnations.asp?Id=professor

Strength Level: Lifts well over 100 tons with potential for infinite strength. However, Banner's analytical behavior limits the increase of strength.

 

[Spade]

I don't think the toymaker was at fault. People make novelty situations in toy sculpts all the time, blissfully unaware how many fans go through their periods over what that entails.

 

[DACMAN]

rubbish

no incarnation of the Hulk has ever been close to worthy

I wouldn't be so quick to say NO incarnation of the HULK.

Ultimate HULK apparently is...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqUqeeQmFyo&mode=related&search=

 

[bkhedr]

Well that was an animated movie so its hardly proof of anything. Its certainly not canon or continuity.

That being said, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Ultimate Hulk ever did lift Ultimate Mjolnir. Heck we don't even know if Ultimate Mjolnir has a worthiness enchantment.

One thing I can say for sure: Ultimate Hulk can't lift 616 Mjolnir

so yes, no incarnation of the Hulk can lift Mjolnir

 

[DACMAN]

I still love pointing it out to you...

 

[Laser]

I don't see how a human being transformed by Gama radiation could be stronger than a God, Thor, or a semi-god, Hercules, or even a specially developed eternal, Thanos.

And there are others that are likewise stronger than Hulk, such as Ultimus (Kree eternal), and also the Champion...

 

[CBG]

I wouldn't be so quick to say NO incarnation of the HULK.

Ultimate HULK apparently is...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqUqeeQmFyo&mode=related&search=

Ultimate universe is different from the 616 universe.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

I don't see how a human being transformed by Gama radiation could be stronger than a God, Thor, or a semi-god, Hercules, or even a specially developed eternal, Thanos.

And there are others that are likewise stronger than Hulk, such as Ultimus (Kree eternal), and also the Champion...

Those are probably not but there are others. And your reasoning is faulty for the sole reason that this is the comics. You could say the same thing about the Sentry you know. How could a guy become almost as power as galactus from drinking a potion.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

prof hulk want anywhere near maestro and yes his strength does increase with rage. I think he was worthy at one time but not thier after.

1. Yes I know this, but the Maestro is the future version of the Professor Hulk.

2. Are you sure? I never heard that. Show me proof that Professor Hulk's strength increased with his rage.

3. No, the Hulk was never worthy at any point in time. And him going on a killing rampage would not help that cause.

 

[ang_hulk]

just because hulk didnt know it was in that spot doesnt mean he didnt know it was around.its a pharse that can go either way.jesse got the ok from marvel that hulk could lift it,deal with it.marvel said he can and thus so do i.

 

[bkhedr]

Marvel has never said he can. In fact Marvel has shown the Hulk try and fail to lift it numerous times. Heck the Maestro himself tried and failed. You wanna go with heresay and claim that is what Marvel 'says' even when it directly contradicts what they have shown, in the comics, as canon, on numerous occasions? (that is that the Hulk cannot lift Mjolnir as proven by the several examples he has tried and failed)

If you want to deny all that, then you go ahead, but that doesn't make it true.

a toy maker who works for toybiz says that some unnamed source at marvel gave him an ok to put Mjolnir on a Maestro figure (that's all we're talking about. really that's it) and somehow that trumps the fact that the Hulk has never lifted mjolnir and even the Maestro failed to budge it?

The fact that the Maestro didn't know it was there just proves that your logic ("Of course he lifted, how else would it have gotten there?") is faulty.

Forgive me for ranting but this is so infuriating.

Its like bkhedr is standing here with an army of people going: "Water is wet"

and Ang is on the other side going: "No its not. Its dry Jesse whatshisface told me so!"

and we're like: "Dude, touch it, its wet!"

and you reply: "It may feel wet but Jesse told me its dry and I want to believe him!! I trust his expert opinion on the matter!"

we say: "Well this is absurd but let's humor you. This Jesse, is he a physicist? Or perhaps a chemist? Someone who would know?"

Ang: "No. he's an astronomer!"

Yes this is that ridiculous. Its simple as water is wet. Why are we even talking about this?

 

[herakles]

Ultimate universe is different from the 616 universe.

Plus also it was a movie!! Dacman just likes to be annoying

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Plus also it was a movie!! Dacman just likes to be annoying

Yes, yes he does.

 

[PhotoJones]

I don't think DACMAN even knows he's annoying.