The Strongest In The Marvel Universe?

[DACMAN]

So I guess Hulk didn't beat Black Bolt.

Wow. It's amazing how quickly you guys will eat up anything that may make the HULK look bad. Nothings offical, it's only BB fanboy wet dreams.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Nothings offical, it's only BB fanboy wet dreams.

Yes it is.

BB was a Skrull.

What're you ten?

Your mom.

Irony much?

 

[DoomRulz]

So I guess Hulk didn't beat Black Bolt.

...

Are you talking about Hulk vs. BB in WWH #1?

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Yeah.

 

[DoomRulz]

Yeah.

What the...what do you call Hulk holding up a beaten and battered BB when he presents his ultimatum??

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

What the...what do you call Hulk holding up a beaten and battered BB when he presents his ultimatum??

Did you read Illuminati #5?

Black Bolt = Skrull.

 

[DoomRulz]

Did you read Illuminati #5?

Black Bolt = Skrull.

Oic.

Nope didn't read that...when did this happen? BB being a Skrull I mean.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

It just came out last week.

 

[Hunter Rider]

knock the stupid fighting off in here.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Who's fighting?

 

[CBG]

Retcons aboard the Secret Invasion and One More/Brand New Day stories!

 

[Hunter Rider]

Who's fighting?

You and Dacman, i just got the report about it.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I'd hardly call that a fight.

 

[†~AntiChrist~†]

I dont know why Luke has a red saber.....

 

[Phenomenal]

Indeed. But there's also the possibility of her powers also flaring up in response, and pull off the "wipe you out of existence" thing. Xavier did his best to psychically counsel her, but that was dwindling in effect as time went by.

Psylocke could mind blast her with a "Psychoblast!"

Not Psylocke.

Yes, she is rendered immune to reality warping with regards to her own being/body.

BUT she can be killed in the more conventional ways, as Jamie stated. Death by headshot, decapitation, suffocation, etc. And reality warping can do that, kill her indirectly. For example, alter the environment into a fatal one: create a room of Adamantium around her without any air inside suffocating her; have bullets come from all directions possible at insane speeds; turn the air into fatal poison gases. Psylocke's RW defense doesn't extend outside her own person. Reality warpers can indirectly kill Psylocke in a variety of ways.

In addition, her "alterations" by Jamie -- immune to reality warping and telepathy -- aren't absolute, at least with the latter. Two characters, implied to be cosmics, were able to read Psylocke's mind despite Jamie altering it to be unreadable.

You act as if MJJ is going to automatically know Psylocke is immune to reality altering? Once MJJ tries it she would kill his *** with her fingers or a mind blast.

Do you have an issue # or scan? I've yet to come across this.

It was the time when Superman resisted being turned into something iirc?

I don't know about you monkey boy but I just got some. One of the MANY perks of being married to a hottie. Why buy the cow when the milk is free? Because I can get the milk whenever I want it.

Go DACMAN..GO

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Most reality warpers are powerful telepaths themselves and can protect themselves. Betsy is reasonably strong but not exceptionally so. Many telepaths are much stronger. Someone like Jaspers might simply turn her incoming mindblast into a swarm of butterflys. Or decide that in his vicinity telepathy doesn't exist.

 

[Fading]

BTW finally did read Illuminati 5 yesterday, and now I see what you guys were saying before.

Spoiler

No doubt in the least Blackbolt is a Skrull. He even talked, then morphed into a Skrull and attacked the others.

As for the Colossus and Thor skrull thing, was me misreading what someone else said. They both were in skrull form, but they had Thor and Colossus's powers. The Thor Skrull had a hammer and cape, and the Colossus skrull bust thru the wall with shiny metal skin, but def had a skrull appearance. Neither of them had anything to do with the ppl they were impersonating other than using similar powers, they didn't really look like them in the least.

 

[CBG]

Psylocke could mind blast her with a "Psychoblast!"

And possibly be wiped out of existence by Wanda's powers. Her powers still acted on their own even when Wanda was unconcious.

In addition, Psylocke doesn't have her telepathy anymore.

You act as if MJJ is going to automatically know Psylocke is immune to reality altering? Once MJJ tries it she would kill his *** with her fingers or a mind blast.

MJJ tries to warp her body, then fails. Tries some more, then moves on.

Psylocke can only attack him if MJJ would stood still in an actual body. Even if his body was destroyed, MJJ was still reform because of reality around him.

As for telepathic attack, even that's ineffective against him.

In addition, Psylocke doesn't have her telepathy anymore.

It was the time when Superman resisted being turned into something iirc?

And that'd be?

 

[Savage]

Silver Surfer beats them all. I mean a weakened Silver Surfer gives these guys trouble. I'd say Galactus but it'd be unfair to count him. Silver Surfer's the closest to him I can think of so I'm going with him.

 

[herakles]

Your mom.

Well that would be little difficult being that my Mother passed away 10 years ago!

 

[Phenomenal]

And possibly be wiped out of existence by Wanda's powers. Her powers still acted on their own even when Wanda was unconcious.

In addition, Psylocke doesn't have her telepathy anymore.

Well a Psychoblast would put Wanda down for Good, this blast damaged Classic Juggs..with his helmet ON.

MJJ tries to warp her body, then fails. Tries some more, then moves on.

Psylocke can only attack him if MJJ would stood still in an actual body. Even if his body was destroyed, MJJ was still reform because of reality around him.

As for telepathic attack, even that's ineffective against him.

In addition, Psylocke doesn't have her telepathy anymore.

Like I said Psylocke has Used mind rape in her career before. MJJ would use Reality warp and be shocked like against the Fury and Psylocke then proceeds to mind rape him.

And that'd be?

Don't remember but it happened for sure.

Also why isn't Thor being talked about here?
Thor God Blasted Galactus and sent him packing!

 

[CBG]

Well a Psychoblast would put Wanda down for Good,

At the possible fatal risk of her powers acting up in defense.

this blast damaged Classic Juggs..with his helmet ON.

So? Psylocke doesn't have her telepathy anymore. She can't make telepathic attacks.

Like I said Psylocke has Used mind rape in her career before.

She can't "mindrape" anymore -- she doesn't have her telepathy.

MJJ would use Reality warp and be shocked like against the Fury and Psylocke then proceeds to mind rape him.

With her current power set, Psylocke's only, and ONLY chance to incapcitate MJJ is to send a psi-katana through his head. And that's possible by:

1) MJJ using an actual physical body.

2) MJJ remaining stationary long enough for Psylocke to attack.

3) Psylocke able to reach MJJ's said body amidst the attacks.

4) Psylocke able to successfully connect the attack through his skull/head/main body of object.

Don't remember but it happened for sure.

A reference would really help.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Psylocke lost some of power when she transferred into the asian body. Her telepathy wasn't as strong as when she was in her own body. AFAIK she also lost her psychoblast at that time. At least I never saw it afterword.

 

[Phenomenal]

At the possible fatal risk of her powers acting up in defense.So? Psylocke doesn't have her telepathy anymore. She can't make telepathic attacks.She can't "mindrape" anymore -- she doesn't have her telepathy.

Psylocke's Katana will rape her!

With her current power set, Psylocke's only, and ONLY chance to incapcitate MJJ is to send a psi-katana through his head. And that's possible by:

1) MJJ using an actual physical body.

2) MJJ remaining stationary long enough for Psylocke to attack.

3) Psylocke able to reach MJJ's said body amidst the attacks.

4) Psylocke able to successfully connect the attack through his skull/head/main body of object.

Yeah and she will reach MJJ because the arrogant fool would think his reality warp could mess with her, Psylocke would already be in his face karate chopping him with her blade.

A reference would really help.

I just rechecked I think it was TVO!! You were right.

Well yeah that is m,y point, High will or spirit can overcome reality warp.

 

[CBG]

Psylocke's Katana will rape her!

The katana doesn't kill though -- it stuns.

And that's also possible if Psylocke can reach Wanda in time. Granted, she may have a higher chance since her being can't be affected by other reality warpers, but she'll have to fight through scores of characters created on the spot, like in Disassembled.

Yeah and she will reach MJJ because the arrogant fool would think his reality warp could mess with her, Psylocke would already be in his face karate chopping him with her blade.

If MJJ hasn't taken her already with environmental reality warping or creating other enemies for Psylocke to deal with.

Even when Jamie was stabbed in the head with the katana, it didn't kill him. All it did was halt his powers.

I just rechecked I think it was TVO!! You were right.

. . . TVO?

Well yeah that is m,y point, High will or spirit can overcome reality warp.

Not really. There's the degree of reality warping to consider.