The Superhero Cinematic Civil War - Part 60

[lenz]

The new Wolverine should be short and hairy, inspired by John Byrne. Really separate him from Jackman's version.

 

[kguillou]

Maybe i’m being naive but i dont think Jackman’s coming back y’all

Spoiler: Deadpool and wolverine spoilers

At the end of D&W when Deadpool asks him “so guess i’ll be seeing ya around?” Hackman gives this sly grin and says “probably not.” I interpreted that as a way of Jackman telling the audience: “I’m good this time, guys: i did this one last time for you but i’m good.” Now, who knows, never say never and im sure with this monster box office the bean counters are no doubt figuring out how they can lure Jackman back. But they really really shouldnt. This was a perfect epilogue for his Wolverine

 

[flickchick85]

Maybe i’m being naive but i dont think Jackman’s coming back y’all

Spoiler: Deadpool and wolverine spoilers

At the end of D&W when Deadpool asks him “so guess i’ll be seeing ya around?” Hackman gives this sly grin and says “probably not.” I interpreted that as a way of Jackman telling the audience: “I’m good this time, guys: i did this one last time for you but i’m good.” Now, who knows, never say never and im sure with this monster box office the bean counters are no doubt figuring out how they can lure Jackman back.

But...

Spoiler

Immediately after that, he goes home with Wade after all. It was like a "this is it for us.....just kidding" moment. Talk about sending mixed signals!

 

[Drizzle]

Both of you good sirs saw the movie so...

Spoiler

Absolutely they won't replace Jackman. I can imagine them having their cake and eat it too: you keep Jackman as a variant with the Deadpool shenanigans and maybe even with the Avengers but also get someone new to do the heavy lifting in the X-movies. I really don't see them investing that much in a franchise like MCU X-Men that will lead them into the next decade with a senior citizen as one of its main heroes. All the while expecting him to be up to physical snuff like he was twenty years ago when he was much younger. Doom is a different situation, you just put RDJ in a suit of CGI armor and let him do his thing, you can't really hide like that in a physical role like Wolverine.

Sorry kids. But we'll see.

Spoiler

I'd love to see a new actor take up the mantle of Logan, preferably someone shorter and less conventionally handsome than Jackman (or Cavill) but since creative bankruptcy is on the menu I can also see them sticking with Jackman as the only Wolverine in the MCU and not just the Deadpool movies. When Marvel is paying people like RDJ close to nine figures it makes it that much harder to truly say no to reprising a character.

 

[Kane52630]

Karl Urban 10 years ago? Would have been perfect for Wolverine.

 

[Drizzle]

Karl Urban 10 years ago? Would have been perfect for Wolverine.

Karl Urban could still play a good Wolverine but alas he's also too tall and too handsome.

 

[flickchick85]

Spoiler: Deadpool & Wolverine

But that's exactly why I want him to be Cavillrene in the MCU X-Men. We all know he's just an action figure with the dramatic range of an extra. You cast him as Wolverine, then surround him with powerhouse actors to be the X-Men and FINALLY we would have a real team and Logan doesn't take the shine.

Which was another reason why 97 was so good because Wolverine was just there.

Told you it was selfish.

Spoiler

This is Cavill we're talking about. The guy who demanded Gadot money as Supes because he'd "paid his dues" despite not having led a successful movie, and who turned down the Shazam cameo because they wouldn't promise him his own blockbuster headliner. There's no way he's agreeing to being in an ensemble blockbuster without being assured he gets the "shine." Dude wholeheartedly believes himself an A-Lister and wants A-lister treatment. That's the crux of why he keeps losing the big gigs. Don't be surprised if his Warhammer thing falls apart too.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I always thought Gary Sinise would’ve made a perfect Wolverine.

But that was many moons ago.

 

[Lily Adler]

Imagine seeing this photo back in 08.

Spoiler: Deadpool & Wolverine

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2008: Who's the the red guy? Spider-Man?

 

[Drizzle]

I always thought Gary Sinise would’ve made a perfect Wolverine.

But that was many moons ago.

I think he was in the running for the first X-Men, wasn't he?

It also blows my mind that Hugh wasn't even the original actor cast as Wolverine. Poor Dougray Scott's probably been in this kinda mood for the last 25 years:

 

[Kane52630]

Dougray Scott showing up in D&W would have been just as on point as some of those other cameos.

 

[Kane52630]

2008: Who's the the red guy? Spider-Man?

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I think he was in the running for the first X-Men, wasn't he?

It also blows my mind that Hugh wasn't even the original actor cast as Wolverine. Poor Dougray Scott's probably been in this kinda mood for the last 25 years:

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He could’ve been.

I feel like Wizard Magazine fancast him and everyone else back in the day as X-Men lol.

 

[Drizzle]

Dougray Scott showing up in D&W would have been just as on point as some of those other cameos.

They would have had to fourth wall break just to explain to the audience who he is, which is both hilarious and sad.

 

[emielaen]

But...

Spoiler

Immediately after that, he goes home with Wade after all. It was like a "this is it for us.....just kidding" moment. Talk about sending mixed signals!

Yeah, I don't think they're gonna care about lore or set ups or narrative when the film is looking to hit $B in all of 2 weeks. Jackman is definitely playing him again lol

 

[Sithborg]

That one season did more for mutants than two decades of the Foxverse and Evolution.

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I've seen what comes after Morrison's run. May you enjoy sub par adaptations of the past 20 years of comics. Its kind of rough.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Charlie Day for Wolverine. Short? Check. Hairy? Check.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Zarex]

My guess is Jackman will stick around as Old Man Logan, the mentor of a new team in Marvel Studio’s The Wolverines starring X-23/Wolverine, Daken & Gabby/Honey Badger.

 

[kguillou]

Animation is really swooping in this year and reinvigorating the genre. Batman CC and X-Men 97 are some of the best work from both companies in years.

My personal DREAM project would be a Daredevil animated series in the vein of Batman CC. That would be so glorious.

 

[Lily Adler]

Animation is really swooping in this year and reinvigorating the genre. Batman CC and X-Men 97 are some of the best work from both companies in years.

My personal DREAM project would be a Daredevil animated series in the vein of Batman CC. That would be so glorious.

I know you didn't just exclude MAWS like that.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Caped Crusader is a germ of a good idea but after watching it, I understand why it struggled to find a home.

'97 is in a league all of its own.

 

[kguillou]

I know you didn't just exclude MAWS like that.

No disrespect! hahaha. I watched the first episode of MAWS and it just wasnt my cup of tea personally but i can absolutely see why people like it.

 

[Invader Joker]

Eeehhhhhh I wouldn’t go that far. His involvement seems equivalent to that of Matt Reeves and JJ Abrams - didn’t write the teleplay or direct on any of this. That feels a little like crediting Across the Spiderverse to Lord & Miller or Nightmare Before Christmas to Tim Burton. Ed Brubaker gets most of the credit here from me. This was clearly his baby.

That is a bunch of BS lol. In every single interview you can find of the development of the show, and I do mean every single one, they make it extraordinarily clear that this show is Timm's baby through and through and that is what he wanted to do since even before he did TAS. Even going back to the DC Fandome panel announcement they did Matt explicitly stated that his and JJ Abrams purpose on it was to support TImm's vision. The people at WBTV that greenlit the show explicitly stated that this was Timm's vision.


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out. I can't wait to see all of this come together. I'm a fan and I just want to see what Bruce does.

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Every single show or movie is the result of a village, especially when there are writer's rooms involved as was the case with this, but it was Timm who came up with the show and the primary vision of what it is comes from him (tho in all fairness he did get nudged by Tucker into coming up with it at all, but like stated before there, even that was Tucker going "Yeah yeah but is there something else you want to do?" and Timm responding and them doing that). Even things like Brubaker's involvement you'd have to credit Timm since it was also Timm who hired Brubaker. He's the showrunner, he literally runs the show.

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Why do you think that is?

Timm: He had an ulterior motive for it. He didn’t tell me at the time, but it was like, “I hear what you’re saying, but if you had a chance to go back, aren’t there things you wanted to do with the show that you couldn’t do back then, either because of broadcast standards and practices, or because the show evolved away from where you originally did it?” And the more we talked about it, it was like, “Yeah, there was a ton of stuff, actually.” My original idea was to make [BTAS] set more deliberately in the 1940s, not just a ‘40s-ish world like Tim Burton did. I’d really love to have seen it with rotary dial phones and no computers and all that stuff. So, the more we started talking about [doing a show more in the vein of BTAS], by the end of that conversation, I was all in on the idea. Then nothing really happened for a while. James was working on a couple of different projects, and I had some direct-to-video movies I was working on. It kind of sat on the backburner for a while.

 

[Kane52630]

Yeah he's the showrunner full stop. It's his show with a bunch of other talented people surrounding him.