The Superhero Cinematic Civil War: The SUMC Was In The Amazon With My Mom Studying Spiders Right Before It Died - Part 61

[Spider-Fan]

So... how many of us will be going to see Cap 4 this week?

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Thursday

 

[The Caped Knight]

So... how many of us will be going to see Cap 4 this week?

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Seeing it Thursday night

 

[Moncton]

I don't know why this bothers me, but I hate when trailer reaction people on YouTube pretend it's the first time that they're watching the trailer and that their reactions are genuine.

 

[Venom 1988]

I don't know why this bothers me, but I hate when trailer reaction people on YouTube pretend it's the first time that they're watching the trailer and that their reactions are genuine.

You can't tell me this video from Chip Zdarsky is not genuine.

 

[Lily Adler]

I don't know why this bothers me, but I hate when trailer reaction people on YouTube pretend it's the first time that they're watching the trailer and that their reactions are genuine.

You're expecting too much legitimacy from people who's entire career is to react to media.

 

[Link]

I liked this Thunderbolts trailer a lot more than the first one. The humor still isn't working for me at all, the visuals are dreary, and this better end with Red Guardian six feet under, but I enjoyed the Suicide Squad films (or more so the idea as far as the first one goes), and this is going to hit the spot.

 

[Zarex]

I liked this Thunderbolts trailer a lot more than the first one. The humor still isn't working for me at all, the visuals are dreary, and this better end with Red Guardian six feet under, but I enjoyed the Suicide Squad films (or more so the idea as far as the first one goes), and this is going to hit the spot.

I'm hoping it ends with Red Guardian suited up in Crimson Dynamo armor.

 

[Lily Adler]

I'm hoping it ends with Red Guardian suited up in Crimson Dynamo armor.

Sounds like a potential plot for Armor Wars.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So... how many of us will be going to see Cap 4 this week?

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I'm going to see Heart Eyes.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Eternals has plenty of flaws but I think the hate for it was overblown. There is a lot about it that I liked but, and we've talked about this before but I still think it would have fared better as a series because IMO the biggest issue was introducing 10 new characters all at once in a 2 hour 40 minute film. It also doesn't help that the two least interesting Eternals (Sersi and Ikaris) have the most screentime and the more interesting ones like Druig and Gilgamesh get table scraps for development.

My biggest issues with Eternals is that it tries to be a reflection on being a part of the machine, but the script is very paint-by-numbers and not the high concept they pitched. There is no meat on the bones, so it just comes off boring. Add the usual Marvel action scenes and attempts at comedy that don't fit that vibe at all and it leads to a massive disconnect. We're solemn, different, but also the usual Marvel fare.

 

[Detective Conan]

Can’t lie, RDJ being Doom kind of kills any hype for this movie for me, hope it’s good but I’m really not looking forward to this movie much sadly.

 

[Drizzle]

I don't know why this bothers me, but I hate when trailer reaction people on YouTube pretend it's the first time that they're watching the trailer and that their reactions are genuine.

They're all trying to chase the same high this guy got watching the Force Awakens trailer:



Actually maybe I'm forgetting something from before then but The Force Awakens is the first time I remember trailer reactions becoming a thing, or at least more common. But at least back then they seemed genuine because they were actually recording themselves waiting for the trailers to drop.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

What exactly is the "high concept" of Eternals? "Old super-powered powerful people who are considered gods and live among humanity" is not exactly the most original idea.

The movie suffered from too many characters and too much backstory crammed into a single movie.

 

[Lily Adler]

My biggest issues with Eternals is that it tries to be a reflection on being a part of the machine, but the script is very paint-by-numbers and not the high concept they pitched. There is no meat on the bones, so it just comes off boring. Add the usual Marvel action scenes and attempts at comedy that don't fit that vibe at all and it leads to a massive disconnect. We're solemn, different, but also the usual Marvel fare.

It kinda gloss overs the fact that one of them is using literal mind control to create a hive mind... I'm actually shocked he didn't become a villain.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It kinda gloss overs the fact that one of them is using literal mind control to create a hive mind... I'm actually shocked he didn't become a villain.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They're all trying to chase the same high this guy got watching the Force Awakens trailer:



Actually maybe I'm forgetting something from before then but The Force Awakens is the first time I remember trailer reactions becoming a thing, or at least more common. But at least back then they seemed genuine because they were actually recording themselves waiting for the trailers to drop.

I can tell from the audio from the trailer everything he's reacting to. That's normal right?

 

[Spider-Fan]

What exactly is the "high concept" of Eternals? "Old super-powered powerful people who are considered gods and live among humanity" is not exactly the most original idea.

The movie suffered from too many characters and too much backstory crammed into a single movie.

They easily could have had a movie that introduced all those characters and worked. I think the larger issue that made it boring for people is they picked the wrong story type. Bringing the band back together worked for Endgame cause we had the pathos of all those characters and knew them and had attachments to them. Here, these are new characters. So now you're trying to get a band back together and at the same time you're introducing me to this band. Which would have been one thing if said band was 4 or 5 members, but here we had like 9! Too many new characters in that type of story. Guardians of the Galaxy introduced a ton of new characters also, but picked a more organic type of story to make that work.

 

[Drizzle]

I can tell from the audio from the trailer everything he's reacting to. That's normal right?

I watched those Force Awakens trailers so many times that they're imprinted in my brain the same way a static image that's left on a plasma TV for a long time would be burnt into the screen.

 

[Link]

I watched those Force Awakens trailers so many times that they're imprinted in my brain the same way a static image that's left on a plasma TV for a long time would be burnt into the screen.

Pretty much all the sequel trilogy trailers were phenomenal. This made me realize that I do miss Star Wars on the big screen a little bit.

 

[Lily Adler]

Pretty much all the sequel trilogy trailers were phenomenal. This made me realize that I do miss Star Wars on the big screen a little bit.

Don't worry Bridget Jones is back on Peacock.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What exactly is the "high concept" of Eternals? "Old super-powered powerful people who are considered gods and live among humanity" is not exactly the most original idea.

The movie suffered from too many characters and too much backstory crammed into a single movie.

From my understanding high concept doesn't mean original idea. It's something easily sellable. Something to can boil down to a few lines in a pitch meeting. Like Star Wars as opposed to Dune. Which is something more low concept. Where so much of what is going on is built around character and story nuance.

I agree Eternals suffers from too many characters and backstory. But I'd argue the issue was the delivery. So much of the backstory could've been delivered in how the characters interact after a long time apart as opposed all the scenes in the past and sectioning the film like it was a TV show.

 

[Link]

Don't worry Bridget Jones is back on Peacock.

You've got Bridget on Peacock, we got her selling out a 400-seat Dolby several times a day

 

[Drizzle]

Pretty much all the sequel trilogy trailers were phenomenal. This made me realize that I do miss Star Wars on the big screen a little bit.

Not just the Star Wars trailers but I feel like trailers in general were just all around better back then. Maybe it's just me getting older but even the good current MCU trailers like Fantastic Four don't pack nearly the same punch as Infinity War's trailers did.

 

[Zarex]

They easily could have had a movie that introduced all those characters and worked. I think the larger issue that made it boring for people is they picked the wrong story type. Bringing the band back together worked for Endgame cause we had the pathos of all those characters and knew them and had attachments to them. Here, these are new characters. So now you're trying to get a band back together and at the same time you're introducing me to this band. Which would have been one thing if said band was 4 or 5 members, but here we had like 9! Too many new characters in that type of story. Guardians of the Galaxy introduced a ton of new characters also, but picked a more organic type of story to make that work.

I think Marvel would have been better off going with the version of the Eternals from the author who should not be named. A group of seemingly regular folks find out they are alien sleeper agents and most turn against their makers after activation. Get rid of the scenes set in the past, give Sersi her fun personality and have the Deviants make sense, like say they are proto heralds of Galactus hunting baby Celestials.

 

[Flint Marko]

So... how many of us will be going to see Cap 4 this week?

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I’m seeing it Saturday. If the movie ends up just being mediocre I might chalk that up as a win lol. I really want it to work but the trailers haven’t looked convincing.