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The Superhero Cinematic Civil War Thread* - Part 61

Best line ever in cinema history is when the bad guy shows The Shadow the sentient knife thing from his training and tells him "I took it from the count. Actually, I took it OUT of the count....after I stabbed him with it!"

Frigging cinema
 
To me I always found Batman Forever trapped between the two different tones that could never decide what it really wanted to be. Before the Snyderverse, Forever was my least-watched Batman movie. At least Batman & Robin stuck to one tone all the way through and while people may not like the tone or the hackiness, it was still fun to watch for me and it just has more things to laugh about.

Basically, if I wanted an all goofy Batman, I'd rather watch Batman & Robin (or the 66 movie) and if I wanted something more dark, sexy, and sinister, I'd rather watch Batman Returns.

That’s going to be Gunn’s Batman all in one.

Bruce will be doing the batusi while Damian is slicing mooks up. :sneeze:
 
Best line ever in cinema history is when the bad guy shows The Shadow the sentient knife thing from his training and tells him "I took it from the count. Actually, I took it OUT of the count....after I stabbed him with it!"

Frigging cinema
I've never seen The Shadow but this sounds like something Sideshow Bob or one of the mobster guys would say on The Simpsons. :o

I really need to check out the other CBMs from the '90s that were riding Batman's coattails. Dick Tracy, The Shadow, The Phantom....
 
I've never seen The Shadow but this sounds like something Sideshow Bob or one of the mobster guys would say on The Simpsons. :o

I really need to check out the other CBMs from the '90s that were riding Batman's coattails. Dick Tracy, The Shadow, The Phantom....

Bruh, seriously, Dick Tracy is SOOOO underrated.

Even Madonna is good in it. You gotta check it out one day.
 
To me I always found Batman Forever trapped between the two different tones that could never decide what it really wanted to be. Before the Snyderverse, Forever was my least-watched Batman movie. At least Batman & Robin stuck to one tone all the way through and while people may not like the tone or the hackiness, it was still fun to watch for me and it just has more things to laugh about.

Basically, if I wanted an all goofy Batman, I'd rather watch Batman & Robin (or the 66 movie) and if I wanted something more dark, sexy, and sinister, I'd rather watch Batman Returns.
And see to me, Forever just struck a balance between old and new that B&R didn’t. Like I said, B&R just feels cheap and half-assed to me, where it feels like Joel genuinely put his whole heart into its predecessor. It feels like an actual complete film to me, albeit a highly campy one. B&R went full-on “we’re just a toy commercial now.” 🤷‍♀️
 
@Shinobi Shaw cover your eyes for this hotter take….


The “slog” of the 90’s Bat-franchise was and ever remains Batman Returns. Tim Burton’s woeful pacing issues first became truly apparent there and never really went away. And if you want to point fingers at what “nearly destroyed” the franchise, it was the reception to THAT film that caused the knee jerk tonal course-correction. The BvS of its time!*


*Justice League wishes it had managed to be the silly fun follow-up that Forever was. :o
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I've never seen The Shadow but this sounds like something Sideshow Bob or one of the mobster guys would say on The Simpsons. :o

I really need to check out the other CBMs from the '90s that were riding Batman's coattails. Dick Tracy, The Shadow, The Phantom....
I have seen like all those, lol!!! Dick Tracy though I hadn't seen until much later. Like mid 2000s. I think that one was the most boring of the Phantom, Shadow, and Dick Tracy trio. You don't get Treat Williams and his over the top psycho villain or the wonderful bad guy dialogue in The Shadow in Dick Tracy. It's just kind of....a noir for 6 year olds. Which is fine, it isn't bad. I just didn't enjoy it as much
 
And see to me, Forever just struck a balance between old and new that B&R didn’t. Like I said, B&R just feels cheap and half-assed to me, where it feels like Joel genuinely put his whole heart into its predecessor. It feels like an actual complete film to me, albeit a highly campy one. B&R went full-on “we’re just a toy commercial now.” 🤷‍♀️
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I have seen like all those, lol!!! Dick Tracy though I hadn't seen until much later. Like mid 2000s. I think that one was the most boring of the Phantom, Shadow, and Dick Tracy trio. You don't get Treat Williams and his over the top psycho villain or the wonderful bad guy dialogue in The Shadow in Dick Tracy. It's just kind of....a noir for 6 year olds. Which is fine, it isn't bad. I just didn't enjoy it as much
The Shadow was my most rewatched movie as a kid. You couldn’t pay me to watch Dick Tracy again lol.
 
Has anyone revisited Spawn recently? I havent watched it since the 90s and wonder how its aged. Lmfao.
 
The Shadow was my most rewatched movie as a kid. You couldn’t pay me to watch Dick Tracy again lol.
I watched The Shadow and The Phantom a lot as a kid. Heck, I still watch those every few years now. I also from that era watched Judge Dredd a lot. I hadn't read many comics of his then, so this was my exposure to the character. But that's another one I ironically love. Armand Asante is just...so much fun to watch in that movie. It might be his magnum opus
 
Has anyone revisited Spawn recently? I havent watched it since the 90s and wonder how its aged. Lmfao.
Ummmmm....I think that aged like milk in the 90s, lol! What would rotten milk look like 30 years later?
 
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And see to me, Forever just struck a balance between old and new that B&R didn’t. Like I said, B&R just feels cheap and half-assed to me, where it feels like Joel genuinely put his whole heart into its predecessor. It feels like an actual complete film to me, albeit a highly campy one. B&R went full-on “we’re just a toy commercial now.” 🤷‍♀️



@Kane52630's rebuttal:

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It’s 2025 and poor Uma still has back pain from carrying that damn movie. :o

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Michael Gough also earned that paycheck.

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And love or hate Arnold's Mr. Freeze it's undeniable that he had an absolute blast working on that movie.

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By comparison the Bat-family all look like they don't want to be there with Chris O'Donnell making the most of an attempt between the three of them.
 
Michael Gough also earned that paycheck.

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And love or hate Arnold's Mr. Freeze it's undeniable that he had an absolute blast working on that movie.

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By comparison the Bat-family all look like they don't want to be there with Chris O'Donnell making the most of an attempt between the three of them.

Absolutely.

The one I’d definitely cut some slack for though is Alicia Silverstone. They really said some foul things about her during this time, and calling her asinine names like Fatgirl and stuff.
 

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