The Superhero Cinematic Civil War Thread* - Part 61

[Moncton]

Here's an interesting fact which you can bring up at the next party you go to and become instantly popular there, the Arrowverse show with the highest RT score is ... Naomi.

 

[flickchick85]

Here's an interesting fact which you can bring up at the next party you go to and become instantly popular there, the Arrowverse show with the highest RT score is ... Naomi.

Black Lightning is higher. And Superman & Lois S4 and Legends of Tomorrow S5&6 are the highest-rated single seasons.

 

[Moncton]

Black Lightning is higher. And Superman & Lois S4 and Legends of Tomorrow S5&6 are the highest-rated single seasons.

You're right , I was referring to average score, and I think Superman and LOT only had a handful of reviews in later seasons.

 

[Sithborg]

I don’t think Snyder hated Superman.
He had a different take.
Snyder apparently felt that Superman had to go through a period of darkness and depression before he became a symbol of light and hope.
Thankfully, audiences SOUNDLY rejected that idea.

Also, symbol of hope and light = Jesus.

I disagree. When you hear about his plans for Justice League sequel, he hated Superman. Or at the very least he was embarrassed by a being as powerful as Superman being altruistic and good.

Man didn't hate Superman. He didn't understand Superman. Once again, he is an Ayn Rand fanboy. Which is why he would be confused by the last scene of Clark and Lex in the final episode of Superman & Lois.

God, that finale made me ugly cry.

 

[Snow Queen]

Dunno what people are talking about, Titans rocks.

I feel the need to clarify due to my unironic love of terrible things that no, Titans was very bad. It's no Madame Web.

 

[Mysteryman]

Also, symbol of hope and light = Jesus.



Man didn't hate Superman. He didn't understand Superman. Once again, he is an Ayn Rand fanboy. Which is why he would be confused by the last scene of Clark and Lex in the final episode of Superman & Lois.

God, that finale made me ugly cry.

Nice to know that I was not the only one experiencing the ugly cry.
Perhaps, a LOT of us were?

 

[kguillou]

Dunno what people are talking about, Titans rocks.

I feel the need to clarify due to my unironic love of terrible things that no, Titans was very bad. It's no Madame Web.

And for those that havent seen Titans….that is Bruce Wayne in that gif.

Let that sink in.

 

[Snow Queen]

And for those that havent seen Titans….that is Bruce Wayne in that gif.

Let that sink in.

I'll be fair, it was a hallucination I think. I dunno. I kinda spaced out around the point Donna got iced by a power line.

 

[Mysteryman]

I'll be fair, it was a hallucination I think. I dunno. I kinda spaced out around the point Donna got iced by a power line.

They lost me with, “F$$K Batman!”

 

[blueharvest]

 

[kguillou]

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Why do i get the feeling that 8 months from now we’re going to hear reports of Chad Stahelski coming in to do major reshoots?

 

[Chip Chipperson]

 

[Lily Adler]

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Where's the baby in the microwave?

 

[Spider-Fan]

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He was going to be doing that either way

 

[Mysteryman]

He was going to be doing that either way

Yeah that the feeling of a made up headline.

 

[Ninjablade]

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

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The Russos are nothing but avatars for the Feige Force.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah that the feeling of a made up headline.

There is probably some very interesting inter office politics going on. I mean, we know Feige is going to be very, very much involved, as with the cost these are looking to be, his job is on the line.

 

[Elayis]

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I don't buy this. The Russos had already done Cherry and The Gray Man when they were brought on board, so Feige knew what he was getting by hiring them. I seriously doubt that he's paying attention to the Rotten Tomatoes score of The Electric State.

That said, I definitely believe that Feige will be more hands on with these films. For Marvel to remain culturally relevant (and also to avoid being fired), these Avengers movies need to be massive successes. Whether micromanagement will translate into decent films is debatable, especially with RDJ as Doom. These movies just seem fundamentally flawed from their inception, regardless of directors.

 

[Sithborg]

I don't buy this. The Russos had already done Cherry and The Gray Man when they were brought on board, so Feige knew what he was getting by hiring them. I seriously doubt that he's paying attention to the Rotten Tomatoes score of The Electric State.

That said, I definitely believe that Feige will be more hands on with these films. For Marvel to remain culturally relevant (and also to avoid being fired), these Avengers movies need to be massive successes. Whether micromanagement will translate into decent films is debatable, especially with RDJ as Doom. These movies just seem fundamentally flawed from their inception, regardless of directors.

I mean, the sheer amount of money being put into these, sort of demands his micromanagement.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

The Thanos meme applied to all of them long before Electric State reviewed anywhere. No reason for Kevin to be shocked Pikachu.

 

[kguillou]

I think here's the question we have to ask ourselves though: what does a "russos bros" film mean? You know what a Nolan film means. A Villaneuve. A Cameron. A James Gunn. A Ryan Coogler. Even a Zack Snyder. What are you getting with Russos bro helmed movie, exactly? What is their brand? What are THEY bringing to Doomsday and Secret Wars?

I think the Russos USED to be associated as strong action directors. I think their brand was "youre going to get good fight scenes in a Russo Bros film." But thats all i can think of.

 

[Mysteryman]

I know that I am in the minority.
But I liked their film, 21 Bridges.
I really liked Chadwick in that role.

 

[Ninjablade]

I think here's the question we have to ask ourselves though: what does a "russos bros" film mean? You know what a Nolan film means. A Villaneuve. A Cameron. A James Gunn. A Ryan Coogler. Even a Zack Snyder. What are you getting with Russos bro helmed movie, exactly? What is their brand? What are THEY bringing to Doomsday and Secret Wars?

I think the Russos USED to be associated as strong action directors. I think their brand was "youre going to get good fight scenes in a Russo Bros film." But thats all i can think of.

The reason you can't do that is because they don't have any individualistic creative voice. There's very little artistry in what they do, hence why their films not involving Feige have not only just been bad, but have been bottom barrel garbage. It's why their best work is in TV.

I mean just listen to Joe Russo talk. Guy could not be any more corporate than could be.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Their Marvel collabs have worked out well in the past. I liked them.

But if they Rise of Skywalker the new Avengers they could end up in the same dog house JJ Abrams has been in for years even after the successful Force Awakens.