The Superman Look: Shaping Superman

[not_a_victim]

I've said it before, I'll say it again, because I'm right, ya know. Superman should have the build of a big, strong, farm boy. Not a bodybuilder, not a track runner, not a swimmer, not a pro wrestler, not like Tobey Maguire, none of that junk. A big, strong farmboy. Thats WHO Superman is for crying out loud. Think Russell Crowe's build in Gladiator

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It's not really that hard to accomplish. Stick to your core lifts, cardio on a cross trainer, and eat a high protein diet, along the lines of six meals a day. Also incorporate alot of push-ups, pull-ups, chin-ups, dips, and tricep push-ups, where you take two benches, put your ass on one, feet on another with a good distance between the two, and then take your ass off the bench, lower yourself as far as you can go, and then push up!

I had NO problem with Routh's body, was he a big strong farmboy, no, but he looked like an athlete, which I guess is a solid number two look for Superman. Routh looked like he did a high rep, low weight training program, with alot of lateral, side to side work, which explains his broad, but only defined look. By that I mean he was broad, but not bulky, just defined! He NEEDED to do more push/pull based work outs, but whatever. Again, I have no problem with that, I prefer the big strong farmboy, but as long as Superman looks like an athlete, I got no problem. The again, Henry Cavill would have been a big, strong farmboy!

I believe the word you are looking for is tricep dips.

The current trend in H'wood training is to use that system that they used in prep for 300. Lots and lots of variance to the exercise, keeping the muscles in a state of unstable shock, to force growth. I'm not in favor of it, as it does not encourage the growth and strengthening of tendons and ligaments, which will lead to more injuries than any other type of exercise program. It does add muscle fast, but the risks are not worth it.

 

[NotFadeAway]

Not to go one up on you, but I said this a loooong time ago. If he was in "farmboy" shape, it would be very easy to explain why Clark was so big. "He's just a big Kansas farm boy."
C. Reeve did an incredible job of hiding his height and mass with the slouching, shambling, etc, but I don't think we are gonna find another actor who can do that as well as Reeve did. Therefore, make Clark a big ol' country boy, and you don't have to worry about hiding it.[/QUOTE]

EXACTLY...

Because I don't want hunched over, falling over himself, bumbling idiot Clark, so this is a must. I want shy, quiet, to himself, kinda naturally dorky and unsure of himself Clark Kent.

 

[NotFadeAway]

I believe the word you are looking for is tricep dips.

The current trend in H'wood training is to use that system that they used in prep for 300. Lots and lots of variance to the exercise, keeping the muscles in a state of unstable shock, to force growth. I'm not in favor of it, as it does not encourage the growth and strengthening of tendons and ligaments, which will lead to more injuries than any other type of exercise program. It does add muscle fast, but the risks are not worth it.

Tricep dips.....thank you, I just couldn't think of it.

I'm also not in favor of that training style, but Hollywood doesn't give a crap about your health!

 

[not_a_victim]

Tricep dips.....thank you, I just couldn't think of it.

I'm also not in favor of that training style, but Hollywood doesn't give a crap about your health!

Glad I could help. I remember how confused I was when Michael Caine claimed Bruce Wayne was so big because he did a lot of "press ups". I have been into training for 20 years, and had never heard that term. THen I realized he was using the English term for push ups. Duh.
And yeah, studio execs don't give a crap about anything other than the actor getting through his trilogy, then any spin-offs.
It's why juicing is so common for H'wood actors. With all the mess with the pro wrestling business is going through with steriods, I can't wait until the first H'Wood doc who hands out anabolics like candy to actors prepping for roles gets popped.

 

[NotFadeAway]

Glad I could help. I remember how confused I was when Michael Caine claimed Bruce Wayne was so big because he did a lot of "press ups". I have been into training for 20 years, and had never heard that term. THen I realized he was using the English term for push ups. Duh.
And yeah, studio execs don't give a crap about anything other than the actor getting through his trilogy, then any spin-offs.
It's why juicing is so common for H'wood actors. With all the mess with the pro wrestling business is going through with steriods, I can't wait until the first H'Wood doc who hands out anabolics like candy to actors prepping for roles gets popped.

Tell me about it lol, I've been just waiting for a hollywood name to pop up on all these steriod doctors client listings.

I think I forgot the term for tricep dips because in my mind, I've always associated regular dips with triceps because it's all in the angle you take on the dip bars if I'm not mistaken

I tried the whole "300" workout about a year ago just to see what would happen, and I hated it. I switched back to my regular workout after three weeks. Running is really my true exercise passion, I should say cardio in general. I used to be a big fat kid, got sick of it my Freshman year of High School, and I've worked out ever since.

And originally in College, at Ohio University , I was a Pre-Physical Therapy Major and my Bachelors would have been in Exercise Physiology because it knocked out alot of the required work to get into Physical Therapy school, and the two other choices were Psych. and Biology, and because my goal was Physical Therapy, Exercise Physiology was the best for preperation! Once upon a time I was inspired to help people, and Physical Therapy was something I was always interested in, it was a perfect fit.

 

[Shawn_Short]

I believe the word you are looking for is tricep dips.

The current trend in H'wood training is to use that system that they used in prep for 300. Lots and lots of variance to the exercise, keeping the muscles in a state of unstable shock, to force growth. I'm not in favor of it, as it does not encourage the growth and strengthening of tendons and ligaments, which will lead to more injuries than any other type of exercise program. It does add muscle fast, but the risks are not worth it.

Could you or Venom please give me the details on this style of workout, like the routine and what not. Does it add strength with the looks, or is it all for show?

 

[not_a_victim]

Could you or Venom please give me the details on this style of workout, like the routine and what not. Does it add strength with the looks, or is it all for show?

They go into a lot of detail about it on the 300 DVD I believe.
A lot of it is based on things like Occupational Therapy/Physical Therapy.
Basically, there is a huge amount of variance in the workouts. You don't just go to the gym and lift weights in the traditional sense for all your workouts. There is some traditional weight lifting, but it is not the focus.
I'm not saying any of the following exercises was used in training for 300, but...
For example, you may go outside and break rocks with a sledgehammer for two hours, then flip a tractor tire end over end down and back the length of a football field. The next day, they may lash an 8 foot section of a wooden telephone pole to your waist, then you have to drag it up a loooong stairway (like at a football stadium) several times. Then you throw that same section of pole on your shoulders and carry it up the stairs.(That one was popular with my wrestling coach in high school. It sucks.) You may do sprints or even short distance runs with a small parachute attached to your back, providing extra drag. Another one popular with wrestling coaches is doing 100 yard "sprints" while pushing the coaches' car. The coach just sits in the car, to brake and steer. (Another one from high school wrestllng. Sucked on even a greater level than the pole drag/carry.)
The workouts do get you strong, and to a certain extent will improve mass (don't let anyone ever tell you that muscle mass=muscle strength. There is a coorelation, but one does not equal the other.) but they tend to not strengthen ligaments and tendons the way traditional weight lifting does, and will leave you prone to injury. Most soft-tissue injuries are not actual muscle injuries, but injuries to tendons and ligaments.
It's a great way to get in shape, as long as you include traditional weight lifting to hit those other soft tissues.
I think the head trainer for 300 put out a book about it, since so many people were jumping on the bandwagon. I saw him interviewed on TV. He seemed to know what he was talking about, so it might be worth picking up. I'm currently going back into hard-core lifting, trying to get some mass on before spring. I might pick it up and give it a try and report back.
Edit: and remember, it's not just enough to work your but off. If you don't eat right and clean, it will all be lost. It's just as important as the exercise, if not more so...

 

[A Dark Knight]

Tell me about it lol, I've been just waiting for a hollywood name to pop up on all these steriod doctors client listings.

I think I forgot the term for tricep dips because in my mind, I've always associated regular dips with triceps because it's all in the angle you take on the dip bars if I'm not mistaken

I tried the whole "300" workout about a year ago just to see what would happen, and I hated it. I switched back to my regular workout after three weeks. Running is really my true exercise passion, I should say cardio in general. I used to be a big fat kid, got sick of it my Freshman year of High School, and I've worked out ever since.

And originally in College, at Ohio University , I was a Pre-Physical Therapy Major and my Bachelors would have been in Exercise Physiology because it knocked out alot of the required work to get into Physical Therapy school, and the two other choices were Psych. and Biology, and because my goal was Physical Therapy, Exercise Physiology was the best for preperation! Once upon a time I was inspired to help people, and Physical Therapy was something I was always interested in, it was a perfect fit.

What was the 300 workout anyway? Why did you not like it? I have never tried it and was just wondering what it was, I was hoping they would have shown it or gone in to it on the 300 DVD but I only found a short little webisode, so any info would be great.

 

[A Dark Knight]

I have always felt that Christopher Reeve and Brandon Routh have had the perfect build for Superman. Dean Cain to as well. He is not a weight lifter. He gets his strength from out yellow sun. He should have lean muscle, not a bodybuilders frame. He does not spend hours in the gym. He does not have to. Comic book artist with their overly pronounced vision of human anatomy has really impacted what our superheros should look like.

Batman for example bein a mere mortal should be muscualr, but not ridiculously so. He needs to be agile and limber. It is difficult to quickly move a hulking mass. Take a look at most military special forces. They are typically lean and not excessive bulk. It is counter productive to bulk up and try to remain stealthy.

I agree, both Reeve and Routh had the perfect build for Superman, they are tall, lean, and cut (I would like to see Routh be a little more cut in MOS), in no way should he look like a bodybuilder, that is not Suprerman.

Batman should be bigger, he is human and he needs to be bigger physcially to be more of a imposing figure to the criminal element, but not at the expense of his agility and speed.

 

[NotFadeAway]

What was the 300 workout anyway? Why did you not like it? I have never tried it and was just wondering what it was, I was hoping they would have shown it or gone in to it on the 300 DVD but I only found a short little webisode, so any info would be great.

not_a_victim pretty much nailed it, but you can also rotate free weights in the same manner. He is right though, it's horrible for your tendons and ligaments. It's pretty a pointless routine if your not training for a sport or a movie role, thats what I came to find anyway. There's easier, safer ways for everyday people to look good!

 

[NotFadeAway]

They go into a lot of detail about it on the 300 DVD I believe.
A lot of it is based on things like Occupational Therapy/Physical Therapy.
Basically, there is a huge amount of variance in the workouts. You don't just go to the gym and lift weights in the traditional sense for all your workouts. There is some traditional weight lifting, but it is not the focus.
I'm not saying any of the following exercises was used in training for 300, but...
For example, you may go outside and break rocks with a sledgehammer for two hours, then flip a tractor tire end over end down and back the length of a football field. The next day, they may lash an 8 foot section of a wooden telephone pole to your waist, then you have to drag it up a loooong stairway (like at a football stadium) several times. Then you throw that same section of pole on your shoulders and carry it up the stairs.(That one was popular with my wrestling coach in high school. It sucks.) You may do sprints or even short distance runs with a small parachute attached to your back, providing extra drag. Another one popular with wrestling coaches is doing 100 yard "sprints" while pushing the coaches' car. The coach just sits in the car, to brake and steer. (Another one from high school wrestllng. Sucked on even a greater level than the pole drag/carry.)
The workouts do get you strong, and to a certain extent will improve mass (don't let anyone ever tell you that muscle mass=muscle strength. There is a coorelation, but one does not equal the other.) but they tend to not strengthen ligaments and tendons the way traditional weight lifting does, and will leave you prone to injury. Most soft-tissue injuries are not actual muscle injuries, but injuries to tendons and ligaments.
It's a great way to get in shape, as long as you include traditional weight lifting to hit those other soft tissues.
I think the head trainer for 300 put out a book about it, since so many people were jumping on the bandwagon. I saw him interviewed on TV. He seemed to know what he was talking about, so it might be worth picking up. I'm currently going back into hard-core lifting, trying to get some mass on before spring. I might pick it up and give it a try and report back.
Edit: and remember, it's not just enough to work your but off. If you don't eat right and clean, it will all be lost. It's just as important as the exercise, if not more so...

And I thought my wrestling coach was a dick. What weight class did you wrestle at?

Good luck with getting back into lifting. I've finally gotten to a place where I'm pretty happy after years of going from bulked up, to cut, back to bulked up, then just defined, kinda skinny, bulked up again, etc etc. I could never settle on a look that I liked and was also reasonable to mantain. Right now I'm 165 at 5'7, with 6 % body fat. When I was bulked, I was 196 with the LESS body fat at 4%, which isn't that big a deal to the naked eye but you consider the weight difference it is a big deal. I just wanted to live a little bit and not be body minded, as I had been since I was a chunky little kid. I was beyond obsessed with training, eating right, I tanned alot, I didn't even let myself have a cheat day. It had to stop. Now I just run three miles a day and use a low-weight, high-rep program which is dumbbell based, and I eat smart. No fast food, no pop are my two big rules!

 

[not_a_victim]

And I thought my wrestling coach was a dick. What weight class did you wrestle at?

Good luck with getting back into lifting. I've finally gotten to a place where I'm pretty happy after years of going from bulked up, to cut, back to bulked up, then just defined, kinda skinny, bulked up again, etc etc. I could never settle on a look that I liked and was also reasonable to mantain. Right now I'm 165 at 5'7, with 6 % body fat. When I was bulked, I was 196 with the LESS body fat at 4%, which isn't that big a deal to the naked eye but you consider the weight difference it is a big deal. I just wanted to live a little bit and not be body minded, as I had been since I was a chunky little kid. I was beyond obsessed with training, eating right, I tanned alot, I didn't even let myself have a cheat day. It had to stop. Now I just run three miles a day and use a low-weight, high-rep program which is dumbbell based, and I eat smart. No fast food, no pop are my two big rules!

I wrestled 131,141, and 151. (gained ten pounds each year in the off-season.)
In the 16 years since high school, I have weighed as much as 195 and as little as 128, at 5'8"... 128 the summer after high school, then 195 at the age of 28. I got the 195 at 4%, but I was fatigued and ill all the time, and I will never try to get my body fat down that low again.
I just quit drinking soda for the most part, but working as a cop on night shift, sometimes fast food is all that is available. Today I am sore all over from lifting, so I took the day off, and used it as rest. I am using a three day split with one additional day of rest. Chest/tris, back/bi, and legs/shoulders, with abs everyother lift day. All sets are 6-8 reps, at 75% of one rep max. I plan to start an L-glutamine/ creatine stack of my own creation within a week or so.
And yeah, I have decided that all wrestling coaches have some sort of chemical imbalance they refuse to seek treatment for!

 

[Lighthouse]

And I thought my wrestling coach was a dick. What weight class did you wrestle at?

Good luck with getting back into lifting. I've finally gotten to a place where I'm pretty happy after years of going from bulked up, to cut, back to bulked up, then just defined, kinda skinny, bulked up again, etc etc. I could never settle on a look that I liked and was also reasonable to mantain. Right now I'm 165 at 5'7, with 6 % body fat. When I was bulked, I was 196 with the LESS body fat at 4%, which isn't that big a deal to the naked eye but you consider the weight difference it is a big deal. I just wanted to live a little bit and not be body minded, as I had been since I was a chunky little kid. I was beyond obsessed with training, eating right, I tanned alot, I didn't even let myself have a cheat day. It had to stop. Now I just run three miles a day and use a low-weight, high-rep program which is dumbbell based, and I eat smart. No fast food, no pop are my two big rules!

You know, I quit drinking alcohol very easily, but soda has been very hard to quit. Some days I just can't resist the Dew.

 

[A Dark Knight]

not_a_victim pretty much nailed it, but you can also rotate free weights in the same manner. He is right though, it's horrible for your tendons and ligaments. It's pretty a pointless routine if your not training for a sport or a movie role, thats what I came to find anyway. There's easier, safer ways for everyday people to look good!

Thanks man, that workout does not sound good at all, I will stick with my 3 day split routine, I change it up every month so my body does not get used to training, right now I am 6ft, 200lbs, 5% bodyfat, I workout 6 days a week, I eat clean with 1 cheat day, but I am always looking for different ways to train and keep it fresh, if you hear of anything or have any ideas let me know, but that 300 thing sounds bad, I won't be doing that.

 

[A Dark Knight]

You know, I quit drinking alcohol very easily, but soda has been very hard to quit. Some days I just can't resist the Dew.

Yeah I agree, I didn't have any problem with stopping drinking alcohol, but getting rid of sugar, oh man! That was so hard, it just ins't a good coffee without sugar.

 

[NotFadeAway]

You know, I quit drinking alcohol very easily, but soda has been very hard to quit. Some days I just can't resist the Dew.

It's tough. Cutting out soda was probably the hardest thing for me. I've always had more problems with nutrition than I have getting in the gym. I just took it slow, started replacing soda with Gatorade, which is sugar filled I know but it's not carbonated, so it was a start. The I moved to Propell Fitness Water, which I've used ever since. Just give it awhile, start subbing non-carbonated drinks for soda, work your way down to Propell or Powerade Option, and you will be fine!

 

[NotFadeAway]

Thanks man, that workout does not sound good at all, I will stick with my 3 day split routine, I change it up every month so my body does not get used to training, right now I am 6ft, 200lbs, 5% bodyfat, I workout 6 days a week, I eat clean with 1 cheat day, but I am always looking for different ways to train and keep it fresh, if you hear of anything or have any ideas let me know, but that 300 thing sounds bad, I won't be doing that.

Hey no problem man. I also am always on the look out for a new workout regiment, although I always find my back to my original workout. It's like my default. I work upper body three days a week and lower body three days a week while running 3 miles six days a week, and Saturday night/Sunday is my cheat period where I eat like a pig and lay around!

And then Monday is my favorite day to workout because I'm all carbed up!

 

[TheBat812]

wtf are you guys talking about? When used correctly, steroids can be good. It's not like they're cheating the competition or anything, they're just increasing their efficiency to be more like their character.

 

[Lighthouse]

It's tough. Cutting out soda was probably the hardest thing for me. I've always had more problems with nutrition than I have getting in the gym. I just took it slow, started replacing soda with Gatorade, which is sugar filled I know but it's not carbonated, so it was a start. The I moved to Propell Fitness Water, which I've used ever since. Just give it awhile, start subbing non-carbonated drinks for soda, work your way down to Propell or Powerade Option, and you will be fine!

Whats been difficult is I feel like I've got nothing left I can eat. I'm about to switch to seaweed. I had a kidney transplant when I was 18, had it for about 7 years now. Because of that I suffer from high blood pressure, so I avoid fats, and cholesterol. That actually wasn't too hard. What was insanely hard was cutting out salt. I couldn't believe how much salt was in normal everyday foods. Its insanely hard to avoid.

Pop was about the only thing that I kept drinking, but I've been working out for awhile, and don't seem to be getting many results, so thats why I'm trying to cut out the soda. Protein intake is also a problem for me cause most of the time the foods that have it are loaded with fat, cholesterol and sodium. I really want to get into a better shape, but I'm having serious problems doing it.

 

[NotFadeAway]

Whats been difficult is I feel like I've got nothing left I can eat. I'm about to switch to seaweed. I had a kidney transplant when I was 18, had it for about 7 years now. Because of that I suffer from high blood pressure, so I avoid fats, and cholesterol. That actually wasn't too hard. What was insanely hard was cutting out salt. I couldn't believe how much salt was in normal everyday foods. Its insanely hard to avoid.

Pop was about the only thing that I kept drinking, but I've been working out for awhile, and don't seem to be getting many results, so thats why I'm trying to cut out the soda. Protein intake is also a problem for me cause most of the time the foods that have it are loaded with fat, cholesterol and sodium. I really want to get into a better shape, but I'm having serious problems doing it.

I'd love to help you out if I can? I'm going to bed here in about ten minutes because I have an early day tomorrow, but if you want, you can PM me your workout routine, both cardio and weight training, your height and weight, and daily eating habits, and I'll see what needs tweaking and what doesn't to provid better results. I suffered from High Blood Pressure before I lost weight and got into physical fitness, and salt was very taxing for me to avoid as well. Again, just PM me if you want, and I sit down tomorrow and see how I can help! And don't worry, I have a couple friends I've whipped into shape

 

[Angeloz]

wtf are you guys talking about? When used correctly, steroids can be good. It's not like they're cheating the competition or anything, they're just increasing their efficiency to be more like their character.

You want them to die or have major health problems?

Angeloz

 

[NotFadeAway]

I wrestled 131,141, and 151. (gained ten pounds each year in the off-season.)
In the 16 years since high school, I have weighed as much as 195 and as little as 128, at 5'8"... 128 the summer after high school, then 195 at the age of 28. I got the 195 at 4%, but I was fatigued and ill all the time, and I will never try to get my body fat down that low again.
I just quit drinking soda for the most part, but working as a cop on night shift, sometimes fast food is all that is available. Today I am sore all over from lifting, so I took the day off, and used it as rest. I am using a three day split with one additional day of rest. Chest/tris, back/bi, and legs/shoulders, with abs everyother lift day. All sets are 6-8 reps, at 75% of one rep max. I plan to start an L-glutamine/ creatine stack of my own creation within a week or so.
And yeah, I have decided that all wrestling coaches have some sort of chemical imbalance they refuse to seek treatment for!

During wrestling I usually weighed in in the 170's, so I wreslted the 189 weight class. I preffered that honestly, because I didn't have to put myself through hell to make weight every week, and I got to train and eat energy supplying food. I preffered wrestling bigger, slower guys who were starving themselves and working out to make weight. They were usually taller than me as well, so I could always get inside them and then turn on the cardio machine within and my pound per pound strength and outwork the bigger guy for three periods. I always had trouble with guys my size or smaller compared to bigger guys. I had also have a black belt in Judo, and that helped ALOT in high school wrestling. I cannot understate that enough, it helped me be a very defensive wrestler!

 

[not_a_victim]

You want them to die or have major health problems?

Angeloz

Angeloz,
Take it from me, steroids, when used properly, are not dangerous. I used for 14 months, gained 45 pounds, AND HAD NO ILL SIDE EFFECTS.
As a matter of fact, when used PROPERLY, you get not only the desired muscle growth, but you get very beneficial side effects that are quite usefull in the bedroom.
Don't believe the negative hype that comes from high-school health class. the right chemicals, used the right way, will not harm anyone.
It's the idiots that use 10 times the recommended dose that get into trouble down the road.
I can't use anymore, as I am a police officer now, but I would start again in a heartbeat if they were legalized.

 

[Angeloz]

Angeloz,
Take it from me, steroids, when used properly, are not dangerous. I used for 14 months, gained 45 pounds, AND HAD NO ILL SIDE EFFECTS.
As a matter of fact, when used PROPERLY, you get not only the desired muscle growth, but you get very beneficial side effects that are quite usefull in the bedroom.
Don't believe the negative hype that comes from high-school health class. the right chemicals, used the right way, will not harm anyone.
It's the idiots that use 10 times the recommended dose that get into trouble down the road.
I can't use anymore, as I am a police officer now, but I would start again in a heartbeat if they were legalized.

I got that from a documentary. I do know though asthmatics use them too. Which can also make them grumpy. I don't know about the long term side effects for them either. I know there can be heart problems and other side effects for the illegal stuff (other organ problems). So when you get older you'll have to look out for that 'cos it might take 20-30 years before it happens. Think of it this way you can drink beer for a long time but it can lead to liver failure. Steroids are similar (in that it can be invisible the harm it does). I'll admit I don't know all the potential problems but that's because I've never used them (as far as I know 'cos I don't know what prescriptions I've had as a child but it's doubtful) so never looked them up. I really do urge you to do so and watch out for potential signs of trouble. But it might be 20 years from now.

Angeloz

 

[not_a_victim]

I got that from a documentary. I do know though asthmatics use them too. Which can also make them grumpy. I don't know about the long term side effects for them either. I know there can be heart problems and other side effects for the illegal stuff (other organ problems). So when you get older you'll have to look out for that 'cos it might take 20-30 years before it happens. Think of it this way you can drink beer for a long time but it can lead to liver failure. Steroids are similar (in that it can be invisible the harm it does). I'll admit I don't know all the potential problems but that's because I've never used them (as far as I know 'cos I don't know what prescriptions I've had as a child but it's doubtful) so never looked them up. I really do urge you to do so and watch out for potential signs of trouble. But it might be 20 years from now.

Angeloz

Not to be an jerk, but you are falling into the same mode everyone else does. "I know nothing about them, but they are dangerous." That is simply not true. Again, DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.
Of course the documentary you saw said anabolics were bad. If they did a documentary and said, "Guess what, anabolics are perfectly safe", no one would have watched the darned thing. It's fear mongering that puts money into the pockets of the producers.
I did my research, talked with three docs, got fully screened for liver enzymes and kidney function, and talked with fomer/current users before I started using.
Just like your beer argument. You can drink a couple beers a day for the rest of your life, and feel no ill effects. However, if you drink a case of beer a day for the rest of your life, YOU WILL RUN INTO PROBLEMS.
Again, used properly, in the proper dosages (that is the key... realistic doasages) there are no ill effects for an otherwise healthy person.