The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE)

[kvz5]

Hey, I've been looking at this clip for quite a while and trying to figure out if Bruce is limping or not. What do you guys think?

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I thought he was limping too when I saw that but most said he was just stomping. But that was before we ever saw him with a cane so maybe that idea is not too farfetched anymore.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

God, I want a suit that pumps narcotics into me all the time.

 

[AnneFan]

I can't wait for that scene with Catwoman. The hug. I wonder if she gets in a kiss?

I think he is limping here. Seeing Batman get in the Bat to take off is going to be....epic.

 

[kvz5]

I wonder if Batman will have a bewildered look on him when she suddenly hugs him.

 

[AnneFan]

This would be after he gets stabbed by Talia. I still think he picks up the bomb, flies out of Gotham and the thing goes off. Thinking about how such a scene could end otherwise, Batman flying back to a heroes welcome, something akin to attending a ball ala the 60s Batman isn't something I envision. Or everyone storming Wayne Manor afterwards to interview and congratulate him. A heroic act but coated in a sheen of sacrifice and doubt is more Batman. Cheering his arrival for the commencement of a fight is a little different. I think he has to become a legend somehow and this could be it.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

It could be that he adds those things on later with some clever explanation. The joker mentions that he "bought" his suit with the mob's money after stealing it from them, thus explaining the costume change from the prologue.. perhaps some similar explanation will be given? He may just choose to wear the vest later, and he may injure his wrist later? Or maybe he adds an improvement to his pain-killer delivery system that allows him to control the dosage (the way it is in the prologue maybe just gives him a small doses every few minutes, and the gauntlet addition gives him the ability to every now and then give him a jolt of high concentrated dosage when he's in an intense battle). The simpler theory, that it's just an injury, is probably more likely though

The injury theory could prove to have a favorable wind, but I'm not convinced that the gauntlet is of a 'supportive' function. Hardy described Bane as an immense wrecking ball. In order for that image to persist, I believe Bane has to have a certain aura to him.

 

[AnneFan]

I think he could still have an aura about him if the gauntlet is supportive as a precaution. Something he puts on and it serves a purpose but doesn't think much of it. Like "I don't have time to bleed". A guy who punches so hard because he doesn't feel pain is pretty scary.

 

[craigdbfan]

The Dark Knight Rises is "PG-13 for intense sequences of violence and action, some sensuality and language", according to a poster on NolanFans. Said it was on the WB Exhibitor website.

Sensuality huh? I have high hopes.

Spoiler

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I think he could still have an aura about him if the gauntlet is supportive as a precaution. Something he puts on and it serves a purpose but doesn't think much of it. Like "I don't have time to bleed". A guy who punches so hard because he doesn't feel pain is a pretty scary aura to have.

Of course, but if it's leading to Bane's fists and wrists to detioriate on a extensive scale, then it's something I'd personally obsess or plague over as a individual whose speciality is war and combat.

Placing a protective gauntlet on an injuried joint could also prove to be target-worthy in a fight.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Obviously his pain killers are going to be quite fictional. I've had a good run with the hardest there is, and none actually "kill" the pain.

 

[AnneFan]

Of course, but if it's leading to Bane's fists and wrists to detioriate on a extensive scale, then it's something I'd personally obsess or plague over as a individual whose speciality is war and combat.

Placing a protective gauntlet on an injuried joint could also prove to be target-worthy in a fight.

I can see where you're coming from. Just because you can't feel it doesn't mean damage isn't being done.

We'll just have to wait and see what it's for I guess.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Obviously his pain killers are going to be quite fictional. I've had a good run with the hardest there is, and none actually "kill" the pain.

Ever had major surgery?

Oh momma, pain-killers only numb so much.

I can see where you're coming from. Just because you can't feel it doesn't mean damage isn't being done.

We'll just have to wait and see what it's for I guess.

Rightfully so. If you happen to break or injure your wrist/fist, no matter how pain-free you are, your technique is still going to suffer.

Never been a fan of braces or pads either. The more injured you appear, the more confidence you bestow to your opponent. It's a no-no for me, no matter how painful an injury may be.

 

[Yurka]

Obviously his pain killers are going to be quite fictional. I've had a good run with the hardest there is, and none actually "kill" the pain.

Spoiler

Best pain killer there is

But I'm really curious how the "venom" will be used in the movie. If it will be a constant supply that he has to replace, or if he has the ability to increase the dosage.

 

[elgato]

I never thought the word "sensuality" would ever 'cause such expectations in my young teenage heart.

 

[Norek]

Good point. I think Bale's chemistry with Heath will never be topped.

True, Christian and Heath had an amazing chemistry! But if something out there has the potential to top that, it's this:

Contrary to what people normally think, I think Bale will have the best chemistry with Hardy.

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I didn't know people didn't think they would have chemistry? It's the females Bale has a problem with.

I think Bale and Cotillard have a great chemistry. I'd much rather see her in the shoes of Selina Kyle to be honest. She bears some resemblance to Arkham City's Catwoman, and the way she speaks, her voice, her mannerisms - GOD, she'd be a great Catwoman!

Poor Tom. He did a terrible job at lying that one time and didn't even bother after that.

Haha, that interview was awesome! I don't think he was lying though, I think he was trying to say that everything's so secretive around Nolan that he doesn't have a clue where his character will go next until the day of shooting. Bane is probably a complex character, so the whole "I don't know who I'm playing" thing makes sense to me.

And about the whole Bane's vest/Joker's costume discussion - wouldn't it be awkward for the CIA to pick up three prisoners, one of which is casually wearing a heavy combat vest? Besides, everyone [from the audience] would recognize him immediately. I think that's the main reason to why he isn't wearing the vest in the prologue - he doesn't want unnecessary attention that might risk him getting on that plane.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

God, I want a suit that pumps narcotics into me all the time.

If you had that, I'd be really afraid of your moderating abilities.

 

[godisawesome]

Of course, but if it's leading to Bane's fists and wrists to detioriate on a extensive scale, then it's something I'd personally obsess or plague over as a individual whose speciality is war and combat.

Placing a protective gauntlet on an injuried joint could also prove to be target-worthy in a fight.

If Bane's got a previous injury and so does Bruce, seeing them both exploit them would be a nice comparison between the two. Bane hammers away at Batman's leg, Batman keeps twisting and trying to snap Bane's arm.

 

[godisawesome]

This would be after he gets stabbed by Talia. I still think he picks up the bomb, flies out of Gotham and the thing goes off. Thinking about how such a scene could end otherwise, Batman flying back to a heroes welcome, something akin to attending a ball ala the 60s Batman isn't something I envision. Or everyone storming Wayne Manor afterwards to interview and congratulate him. A heroic act but coated in a sheen of sacrifice and doubt is more Batman. Cheering his arrival for the commencement of a fight is a little different. I think he has to become a legend somehow and this could be it.

That makes alot of sense, but the idea of Batman having to carry away a bomb by personally flying the Bat somewhere and then dying strikes me as a little cliche' and easily avoidable. Don't get me wrong, the idea of Batman sacrificing his life is pretty cool, but if Bruce doesn't have an autopilot function that can do that, then its going to be annoying having How It Should Have Ended actually having a point this time.

 

[AnneFan]

That makes alot of sense, but the idea of Batman having to carry away a bomb by personally flying the Bat somewhere and then dying strikes me as a little cliche' and easily avoidable. Don't get me wrong, the idea of Batman sacrificing his life is pretty cool, but if Bruce doesn't have an autopilot function that can do that, then its going to be annoying having How It Should Have Ended actually having a point this time.

Well, he'd have to pick the bomb up manually first, right?

I am very much on the side of Batman surving this blast, but shown in an ambiguous way where Gotham assume he died. We could very well assume he ejected at some point and left it on autopilot.

 

[camp Blood]

well if my theory about the batwing being nuke powered is true then it will have a very advanced autopilot

nuke powered aircraft and stat in flight for very long periods of time and that means Bruce can throw it in autopilot while he does his thing and when he needs to make a quick escape he can call the batwing and grapple hook it and make it look like he flies away

 

[The_Raganork]

Which will fail the moment he needs it most.

 

[camp Blood]

why?

 

[The_Raganork]

Damage from one the the tumblers. The rocket firing one.

 

[camp Blood]

maybe but my nuke powered aircraft idea isn't entirely unfounded

 

[AnneFan]

Getting rid of the doomsday device would be the very last act of the resistance plan I assume. So if something is going to happen it'll be here IMO.

Does anybody know what the deal is with the outside of Gotham City, given that inside it's practically a prison? Nobody allowed to come near for kilometres or they'll get shot down kind of thing? If so, Batman getting outside the City could possibly explain how he could eject unseen and not be found at the crash site.