The Trailers Ruined the Dark Knight Rises' Suspense

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  1. Shpati Registered

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    Let me start off my saying I enjoyed the Dark Knight Rises. It was a great movie.

    As far as suspense goes, the trailers ruined it. I remember in The Dark Knight, the Batman Vs. the SWAT team scene was so unexpected. That scene still remains my favorite of the trilogy. Then we had another great suspenseful scene afterwards,
    (Two-Face).
    I do not remember seeing any of it in the trailers.

    Batman Begins was a while ago, but I do not remember them giving up too much in the trailers.

    In The Dark Knight Rises, the trailers already showed so much footage of the final Batman Vs. Bane scene. We saw The Bat chasing the stolen Tumblers in trailers and everything else. Then afterwards, there was no unexpected scene.

    I predicted that Talia was going to be the plot twist of the movie, and I had a feeling if it was going to be anyone, it was going to be Miranda Tate

    I was hoping for one more suspenseful fight with Batman, Bane, and
    Talia
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    Anyone else think the trailers gave away too much?

    I swear, the next time I am looking forward to watching a movie like The Dark Knight Rises, I am going to watch no trailers at all.
     
  2. Tojo Registered

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    Don't watch the Skyfall trailer in that case. Pretty much guess the whole film just from a 2 minute preview.
     
  3. Drizzle Eh.

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    Two-Face was in the third TDK trailer, but it was a blink-and-you-miss-it type of thing. It was this shot:

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  4. Shpati Registered

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    Thank you for the heads up. :yay:
     
  5. Shpati Registered

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    Yep, I am glad I blinked during that part. :yay:

    I figured out that they actually had Two-Face in the trailers a couple of weeks ago. I am just glad I did not find out before i actually watched The Dark Knight.

    Did lot of people here figure that out before The Dark Knight?
     
  6. redfirebird2008 Registered

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    I just wish they didn't show the "not everything, not yet" scene in the trailer.
     
  7. Drizzle Eh.

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    People speculated about it when Eckhart was first cast as Harvey Dent. At first, I thought that Harvey would be scarred in TDK and Two-Face wouldn't show up until the third movie. I was satisfied with the outcome, though.
     
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    I think the last Bane and Batman fight was put in trailers because set photos had already leaked it months ago and it was significant, it showed Batman coming out during the daytime, which had a lot of people surprised and excited. A lot was kept hidden though, most of John Blake, which I enjoyed, same with the pit, they gave us a brief look but barely any info on what the purpose of it was in the movie which was good
     
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    The Dark Knight's trailers gave away every moneyshot from the film with the exception of the SWAT encounter and that whole fight. The zipline across buildings, The tumbler bursting through the side of a wall into the parking garage, Batman falling onto the van from a ways up, the jump in Hong Kong, the judge's car exploding, the cops dispersing in chaos at the funeral, tons of the bits from the chase + the biggest of the film- the truck flip, and the hospital blowing up.

    It gives away the general story pull for much of the film: The Joker seemingly aiming to kill Batman with the mob's help, Bruce trying to put down the cape and cowl to be with Rachel, the love triangle with Bruce/Rachel/Harvey, Bruce needing to face the need to make moral concessions to truly defeat The Joker, The Joker hanging out of the cop car (implying he escaped), and here's one of the biggest- you see a shot of gasoline pouring over Harvey Dent then see a building explode in the next shot (implying it's him), and Batman torturing The Joker in the cell.

    The Batman Begins trailer is worse, watch it again. It shows you almost everything that unfolds through every act of the movie.

    If after two unbelievably spoiler-filled trailers you didn't learn to avoid them if that's the sorta thing you care about, there's not really anybody to blame but yourself.

    -Vader
     
  10. Deserana 2005/2008/2012

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    Set photos and spy vids were the problem. As well as Nolan's need to shoot everything real came to bite him on the ass. H ereally could of shot that one bit of Talia walking to the tumbler on a soundstage.

    The trailers ruined nothing even up until the reviews came out things were being speculated left right and centre.

    The Bane/Bats sewer fight wasn't ruined neither was Bane blowing up the city. The final battle however... was.
     
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    I like how "came to bite him in the ass" is actually over-eager fans not having the self control to stay in the dark during filming. I should add it's a very small percentage of filmgoers that saw even one set photo.

    -Vader
     
  12. Deserana 2005/2008/2012

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    I never saw it but unfortunately after that set video Miranda was only labelled as Talia on these boards. It isn't over eager Batfans it was a poor desicion on Nolan's part to film the main twist out in the open for everyone to see for the most anticipated film of the year.
     
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    The Talia twist should've (obviously) been kept in greater secrecy since it became pretty much unavoidable on the internet as a whole (most major film media sites even had headlines posting Talia= Tate stuff). Even so, I went off the radar of NF/SHH so as to avoid a lot of this stuff. The general public still never saw it coming, which is what matters. Again, us board users are a very low percentage of the general audience. It's also worth noting a huge part of the final twist wasn't revealed until the film's debut.

    My comments were more generally aimed at anyone saying the spy photos took a great deal away from the film. The solution is simple, don't look at the them and do your best to stop being around unreliable people that have.

    -Vader
     
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    Wow you're seriously blaming Nolan for filming on location. Wow that is just wrong. It's not his fault some of you guys can't stay away from spoilers but to blame him for doing stuff that hardly anyone does anymore is just pathetic.
     
  15. Deserana 2005/2008/2012

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    That is not what I said at all. Nolan can film on location. I love that he does. I was just saying the one shot of Talia walking to the tumbler could have been shot on a man-made set. Nothing wrong with that at all. Nolan is all about keeping it authentic but he is also about secrecy so it surprised me he revealed such a thing.
     
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    Completely agree. Des, you chose to read a spoiler forum.
     
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    jacobed.
    in 2011 normal movie sites spoiled Talia. it started when Marion filmed the scene where she walks down the stairs into the tumbler.

    common sense. you build the stairs outside the soundstages. you add a big greenscreen behind Marion. and then you tell the CGI guys to add the building. voila.

    there was no need to film Marion in 2011 outside for everyone to see.
     
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    Well you know how Nolan is with practical filming.
     
  19. Shpati Registered

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    That small bit in pieces did not really give up too much. I only seen the trailers once before the movie. I saw one at The Amazing Spiderman showing.

    All I said was the final battle was not as suspenseful
     
  20. Deserana 2005/2008/2012

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    I'm not saying I was annoyed I found out. I was simply saying I was surprised Nolan, a Director who was so concerned about secrecy to the point where the end was cut out of the script and the actors had to read it behind locked doors, shot the twist in the open for all the spies to see. I seriously can't see why I'm being moaned at for this...

    Nolan may like practical. I do to. The audience does. But for such a big reveal, plus the fact he had two huge soundstages I don't see why he didn't build a part of the set in one to keep it a secret. He built the entire Batcave for godsake in there.
     
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    Well sometimes, you cannot avoid it. I was looking up some other movies on IMDB, but one day the front page was covered with Dark Knight Rises New Photos on the homepage.

    I saw one trailer before the Amazing Spiderman.


    I can stay in the dark. I just cannot avoid spoilers reaching me for over one year.
     
  22. Shpati Registered

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    Yea, I hardly use this website anyway. I made sure not to go on it during the Dark Knight Rises.

    I agree with you on the Spy Photos.
     
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    They shouldn't have showed the football stadium blowing up in the trailer.
     
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    I think the main reason that TDK felt fresh no matter how many TV Spots or Trailers I'd seen was because I went in expecting a generic 3 Act Blockbuster, but the way the film was structured was far more interesting than that, to the extent that the majority of money shots occurred in the middle of the film.

    The reason I felt TDKR was a bit of a let down was that it followed such a generic structure.
     
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    Agreed.
     

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