BvS The Unabashed SPOILER Thread. ENTER AT OWN RISK. - Part 4

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Lex's prisoner number is 16 TK-421. :cwink:
 
Ok, so what did anyone think of the fight between Bats and Supes? I thought it looked glorious in IMAX 3D. Didn't expect Batman to kick Supes' ass so much. Great use of the kryptonite through the whole movie, imo.
 
Me neither.

@SS Jett: Sun radiation and he completely gets back to normal.

The Bats, Supes fight was awesome, it delivered, just the right amount, it shouldn't be too long. Bats really destroyed him, those kryptonite gas grenades worked perfectly ! Yeah I loved what they did with the kryptonite, it's done very well.
 
Zack explains how and why Batman kills in BvS. It's pretty much what many of us likely deduced on our own.

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Let me get this straight:

Did Snyder actually sit there and claim that Batman got his "no kill" reputation from the Burton films?

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Ok, so what did anyone think of the fight between Bats and Supes? I thought it looked glorious in IMAX 3D. Didn't expect Batman to kick Supes' ass so much. Great use of the kryptonite through the whole movie, imo.

Looked like art on IMAX. As a Superman fan I thought it was well done.
 
i just don't understand the obsession of batman can't do killing.

It would make a lot of sense. He doesn't even have to kill everyone. Just Joker and all those mass murdering supervillains. There really is no good reason why he shouldn't do that. Other then that there would be no supervillains then and his reason to do stuff would diminish.

This "thou shoult not kill" makes absolutely no sense in his universe. All kinds of aliens are out there to destroy the earth.
 
I have to agree with Snyder's co-workers, they should have had Batman shoot KGB Beast in the head.
 
Does Cavill slowly return back to normal looking after nuke?
Yes. The sunlight heals him.
This.

And it looked great imo. He was in the shadow of the Earth, floating in the space, motionless, and then Sun began to shine at him and he started to take his former form...

But man, he really did look scary!
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I think some people may got disturbed. :woot:
 
A Batman who causes death and destruction but isn't really like the Punisher since he does save people in this movie.
imo that Dark Knight Returns scene is always hard to tell whether he's killing or not. In the animated movie he just shot the person in the arm.
 
This.

And it looked great imo. He was in the shadow of the Earth, floating in the space, motionless, and then Sun began to shine at him and he started to take his former form...

But man, he really did look scary!
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I think some people may got disturbed. :woot:

Yeah. My wife did the whole cover her mouth in shock kinda thing.
 
I see again those complaints on the RT score about the bleak, nihilistic tone, I didn't feel that for one second. It's dark, tragic sure, it's serious, that's what I love about DC, and I love Marvel too, but they're just on complete opposites ends of the spectrum.
 
Okay is the scene where CIA agent Jimmy Olsen is killed by mercenaries and Superman skewers a warlord in the final cut or R-rated version?
 
Wow, haters are having a field day on the Rottentomatoes thread right now about Snyder not understanding these characters.

Well Spooderman :D I see we're picking the conversation from the RT thread, it's in the final cut, I didn't even think about it really. The guy has a gun to Lois' head if I remember correctly.
 
Did anybody else just love the bit where we see that picture of Wonder Woman dated 1918 during WW1 during the email exchange? The tense build up and score was brilliant. And her entrance was great when she deflected Doomday's blast.

I don't know why they killed Supes - it's the most pointless death in CBM history as we all know he's coming back. I guess Snyder just wanted to honour the events of the comics?
 
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Okay is the scene where CIA agent Jimmy Olsen is killed by mercenaries and Superman skewers a warlord in the final cut or R-rated version?

Theatrical. And if it's Jimmy Olsen, they don't mention it.
 
I really need to stop reading the comments following every article on CSN and SHH. The negativity and stupidity from people just sickens me. And this troll idiot going by the Clown Prince of Trolls is by far the worst. I dare the fool try to challenge everybody in here. At least many of us are actually enjoying this film.

Anyway, another humorous line from Perry White while searching to Clark, mainly the line about tapping his heels 3 times and ending up back in Kansas lol.
 
Did anybody else just love the bit where we see that picture of Wonder Woman dated 1918 during WW1 during the email exchange? The tense build up and score was brilliant. And her entrance was great when she deflected Doomday's blast.

I don't know why they killed Supes - it's the most pointless death in CBM history as well all know he's coming back. I guess Snyder just wanted to honour the events of the comics?

The death isn't what's important. It was the fact that to Superman, he doesn't know that he won't stay dead. So what he did, that was the last stand in his mind. He made the ultimate sacrifice. So it's not about what his death means to the audience, so much as what the sacrifice means for the character and the characters in the film. It was Superman showing that this was indeed his world and that he was all in.
 
Yeah that was an awesome scene, loved the sort of reversal when Diane sees the photo herself and then sees Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg.

I thought the ending was beautiful, he "dies" because like he tells Lois, this is his world, he made his choice regarding what his mother told him "be none of it or be all of it" (not sure about the second part of that quote :D ).

He makes his choice. Most of the general audience has no idea he's coming back though, us fans know yeah. That split second last shot of the dirt floating is so fast that I'm sure a lot of people will miss it.

Cool cliffhanger, I think it's exciting to see how they're going to bring him back.
 
I thought Ben Affleck shined in just about every scene. His moments with Alfed, when he's fighting Superman (look at his facial expressions throughout each of the crucial moments of the fight - just fantastic), etc. It seems like Batman is a role he was born to play, it's no wonder he's such a huge fan of the character that he built his own batcave.

The set up of Batman and Superman's confrontation needed much more time. It's something that deserve its own movie. With the this movie setting up Just League, it felt rushed and forced, especially when integrating Lex Luthor into it.

Anyway a 7/10 from me.
 
The death isn't what's important. It was the fact that to Superman, he doesn't know that he won't stay dead. So what he did, that was the last stand in his mind. He made the ultimate sacrifice. So it's not about what his death means to the audience, so much as what the sacrifice means for the character and the characters in the film. It was Superman showing that this was indeed his world and that he was all in.

Good points. Agreed.
 
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