Transformers The User Review Thread [SPOILERS IN ABUNDANCE!]

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I suppose I should preface this by saying I was born a little too late to catch the G1 TF cartoon, and was turned off by Beast Wars. Coming into this movie, all I knew was that the good guys were Autobots, led by Optimus Prime, and the Decepticons were led by Megatron. So:

-Peter Cullen's voice is the auditory equivalent of royalty as you hear it booming through the theater's 5.1 surround sound.

-I won't deny Megan Fox is attractive, but I also don't want a movie about an intergalactic battle between good and evil to waste time with Shia LeBouf trying to make a move on her. Especially not with Bee-Yotch's "help."

-The design of the transformers is visually horrendous and too reminiscent of RoboCain. I could tell Optimus Prime apart from Bumblebee, and Bumblebee apart from Megatron's mouth, and Scorponok was self-explanatory--but the rest of the transformers became sort of an indistinguishable haze. In the various G1 images I've seen, I might not know all their names, but I could tell one from the other.

-It doesn't help to have vertigo-inducing transformation sequences. Different parts spin and rotate over themselves so many times it's impossible to follow. I almost didn't want them to transform so I could take it easy on my eyes--which kind of defeats the purpose of a movie called Transformers.

-The movie's structure builds to a climax, but it's entirely meaningless. The hacker subplot is ultimately irrelevant and chews up precious time that could flesh out different members of the Autobots or Decepticons. Sector 7 and a government conspiracy surrounding a frozen Megatron seemed a little stale to me--I'm not a big fan of super secret government agencies as bad guys, especially these ones who exist only to be hindrances.

-The robot fighting, what I think the average public paid to see, was a tremendous letdown. I hate shaky cam and I hate continual closeups during action sequences. If thirty-foot tall robots are slugging it out, shaky cams and obnoxious close-ups detract from the excitement. Being thirteen inches away as Optimus Prime and....that one bad guy tumble end over end is terrible. Prime at least shanks him in the neck, but that's the only distinguishable part of the battle. Of ANY of the battles.

-The obvious sequel-inviting ending made me sigh. Why can't there be closure in today's films? Why is everything a saga, a trilogy, or an adventure of "epic proportions?" Let the film stand on its own two legs. I might be misremembering, but were the filmmakers trying to imply that the whole transformers "incident" was now successfully covered up by Sector 7? After that building-crushing battle in the city?

So, I decided to rent "Transformers: The Movie," to see if that would fare better.

-See first point, except with "home stereo" replacing "theater surround sound."

-Well, this film doesn't waste any time. Within the first half-hour, the majority of the recognizable characters are dead or upgraded due to a devastating confrontation in Autobot City. I was taken a little aback by the sheer level of violence and dismemberment as Megatron and his forces wade through Autobot resistance. I didn't quite see the point of him transforming into a gun if he's got that arm-mounted cannon, especially if he's going let Starscream use him. But the Optimus/Megatron battle seemed much more dramatic and meaningful than that snippet in the live action film (despite the song, which I'll get to momentarily), and watching both Prime and Megs tear into each other was a visual treat.

-Optimus Prime dies? That almost made me want to stop watching the movie, but I figured they'd bring him back in the last ten minutes. Nope.

-Unicron, eh? Neat. I never saw FF2, but I'm sure whatever Galactus was, he wasn't nearly as cool as this planet-eater. The dialogue between he and Megatron is nice, but the excitement fades as you realize with the replacement of Prime being Ultra Magnus and Megatron upgraded as Galvatron, that this is just a big commercial of a new toy line. I suppose if you're going to replace Peter Cullen and Frank Welker with anyone, it should be Orson Wells and Leonard Nimoy, but...it made me sad.

-The songs, with exception of the title theme, are terrible. I'm not critiquing them out of hatred for thestyle, it's just that they have nothing to do with the scene. (Well, Instruments of Destruction does, and you could make a case for You've Got the Touch, but the rest are horribly out of place.)

-Despite what the opening narration might lead you to believe, this film is not about the re-taking of Cybertron. Unicron has an ultimate goal of destroying the Matrix of Leadership, but why on earth would you be so specific that it was the only thing that could hurt you? Of course, Magnus and Hot Rod come to this deduction themselves thanks to some incredibly lazy writing on the level of the SW prequels. The Autobots get chased around the galaxy by the Decepticons, and then get separated on the planet of junk and the planet of sharkticons and quintessons. Alas, the two worlds have nothing to do with whatever plot this movie might have, and are subject to two ridiculously transparent deus ex machinas to get them back on track.

-They can rebuild Ultra Magnus, but not Prime? :cmad:

-Watching Hot Rod stay in car mode and ram into Galvatron made sense to me, as well as Starscream strafing Arcee and Springer in Autobot City. A nice little touch, as was Galvatron's frustration that Autobots were "so easy to kill."

-And just like that, it's over. Rather presumptuous to have Hot Rod declare an end to the Cybertronian wars (Did all the Decepticons get killed, or did they surrender?), what with Galvatron sitll being out there and a new season following the movie, but he's young. Or was.

On the whole, ye olde Transformers has more re-watch value and has actually kindled an interest in G1 cartoons and comics. The live-action movie, far from drawing me in as a new viewer, actually repulsed me. If there's a sequel to "this" TF, I'm not interested.

Old Transformers wins!
 
Watched TF for the 2nd time today, enjoyed it even more, a truly great movie.
 
Primes entrance is just pure badass in this scene, along with he and Megs first lines to each other...

Prime: "Megatron.."
Megatron: "Prime!"
 
Primes entrance is just pure badass in this scene, along with he and Megs first lines to each other...

Prime: "Megatron.."
Megatron: "Prime!"

:up: :up: :up:
Man, stuff like that is what saved the movie for me. Prime's & Megatron's lines to each other were nuthin but awesome. Badass indeed.
 
Primes entrance is just pure badass in this scene, along with he and Megs first lines to each other...

Prime: "Megatron.."
Megatron: "Prime!"

100% agreed, ALL of the lines in that scene were just amazing. And i loved Prime's battle stance at the start as well.
 
I think it's safe to say that Cullen actually saved this movie. I really couldn't have seen another voice actor doing Prime, and making me 'feel' what i felt as Cullen delivers his lines.
 
I think it's safe to say that Cullen actually saved this movie. I really couldn't have seen another voice actor doing Prime, and making me 'feel' what i felt as Cullen delivers his lines.

Hhhhmmm i dont think he saved it so to speak, but he DEFINATELY added something to it, the delivfery of Prime's lines were just perfect, and he lent a certain gravitas to the character as well.
 
Hhhhmmm i dont think he saved it so to speak, but he DEFINATELY added something to it, the delivfery of Prime's lines were just perfect, and he lent a certain gravitas to the character as well.

I think he did save it. To me he was the only factor that made this movie even feel remotely connected with G1 Transformers. Despite the characters having the same names as their G1 counterparts, they didn't feel G1-ish to me. And eventhough Prime didn't look G1..Cullens voice sent me back down memory lane everytime he spoke. I think alot of old fans will agree with me.
 
I think he did save it. To me he was the only factor that made this movie even feel remotely connected with G1 Transformers. Despite the characters having the same names as their G1 counterparts, they didn't feel G1-ish to me. And eventhough Prime didn't look G1..Cullens voice sent me back down memory lane everytime he spoke. I think alot of old fans will agree with me.

Well yeah i do agree with you about Cullen, but the movie had others factor which made it great IMO.
 
I'd like to remind you all not to post links to bootlegged clips. Thank you.
 
I wonder if we'll get a "Can you transform?" line in the next one.. :p

-TNC
 
i give this movie a 10/10
it has millions of mistakes. but it doesnt matter because the movie is not supposed to be serious.

you know what? i laughed 10 times more when watchign this movie then i laughed in the last 10 years at comedies.

this movie was made for masses. it is 100% FUN. i think if you are a TF fan than this is not the perfect summer movie. but if you are avarege joe then this movie is a perfect summer popcorn movie.

for TF fans its of course bad that it is not a more serious movie. but the concept is IMO perfect. someoe could say that no one belived that you could make a serious superman movie back in the 70's. i think those are different times.

but on the other hand now we have a big profit and the sequel will happen 100%. maybe now it is a chance to make a bigger and more SERIOUS movie.

with superman it is 100% different. the first one was SOOOO serious that the sequel will have a smaller budget.

so i now ask you what is better? to make first a serious movie and then make a popcorn movie because you are desperate for money or to make first a movie for the masses to introduce the characters and make a profit for the sequel and then make it more serious?

fact is that the CGI was incredible. fact is also that the budget was smaller then in SR.
fact is that the TF sequel will have a bigger budget and that SR will have a smaller.
 
Dark_B
I am one of those TFan but I really enjoyed the movie for what it is. I think the simple story must be from Spielberg. Most origin movie anyways are simple in story like star wars IV or STM. The second part of star wars is were the story become complicated and we get more eye candy & more action. So, yeah, the simple story is part of the gimmick to introduce the General Audience to transformers, and I think that's the way to go also. Of course, now they are going to use a different writer for TF2 so hopefully, we're going to get some really heavy storytelling stuff. And, hopefully, by now Mr. Bay realizes the potential of this franchise and that he will truly delve into the TF mythos and, actually, cater to Big TFans also.
 
plus to add something. i think it was normal that we didnt got more dialoge from the TF's. of course more decepticon dialoge wouldnt hurt.

i am also a guy who understands why we had so much more human screentime. there is noooooooooooo way that they could make more TF's with that kind of budget.the render time was sometimes more hten 24 hours.

no matter what anyone thins.....it looks like spielberg is the producer for the sequel. plus hte movie made a profit.
i dare to say that it is a fact that there will be more transformers and more dialoge from them(decepticons) in the sequel.

with SR.............well we all know how it is there. go on hte superman forum. if you are a superman fan you can only be scared.
 
Dark_B
I am one of those TFan but I really enjoyed the movie for what it is. I think the simple story must be from Spielberg. Most origin movie anyways are simple in story like star wars IV or STM. The second part of star wars is were the story become complicated and we get more eye candy & more action. So, yeah, the simple story is part of the gimmick to introduce the General Audience to transformers, and I think that's the way to go also. Of course, now they are going to use a different writer for TF2 so hopefully, we're going to get some really heavy storytelling stuff. And, hopefully, by now Mr. Bay realizes the potential of this franchise and that he will truly delve into the TF mythos and, actually, cater to Big TFans also.
come on.....its BAY :wow:
just listen to the guy when he talks about hes moveis and about TF. he never says it directly but its all about the money and hot girls for him IMO
 
sigh...sounds like it yeah.....hopefully then we can just get good story writers
 
sigh...sounds like it yeah.....hopefully then we can just get good story writers
from what i know its also has a lot to do with spielberg.
he wanted bay. if spielberg says a more serious movie then ok. and nwo they can do it becasue now they have enough fans for the sequel.

they can now do it IMO.
 
has anyone noticed that frenzy acted like a crazy gremlin?

the funny thing is that spielberg was the producer of gremlins heheh :woot:

frenzy was sooooo funny :yay:
 
well if spielberg is the producer i trust him that the sequel will have a director tha t knows how to make action.
 

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