The way most of media and Obama address gun shootings. A double standard?

[Taarna]

Why is Obama so quick to politicize a gun shooting when it's at the hands of a USA caucasian, but tones down the message when it's a minority of Jihad Islam type?

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

If shooters are:
White - "we need more gun control"
Black - "they were good boys"
Muslim - "not all Muslims are terrorists"

I'm sure I'll get some slack for this, but it was a tweet I saw. Felt it (un?) appropriate here.

 

[SV Fan]

Why is Obama so quick to politicize a gun shooting when it's at the hands of a USA caucasian, but tones down the message when it's a minority of Jihad Islam type?

Seems like he went on a rant about Gun Control with the Planned Parenthood shooter and San Bernardino shooter, how is that toning down the message?

 

[Taarna]

Seems like he went on a rant about Gun Control with the Planned Parenthood shooter and San Bernardo shooter

It's bigger than that. There was a mass shooting in New Orleans, SV.

Did you hear any comments about that in the mainstream media?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-investigate-orleans-shooting-left-16-wounded-35367005

 

[Taarna]

If shooters are:
White - "we need more gun control"
Black - "they were good boys"
Muslim - "not all Muslims are terrorists"

I'm sure I'll get some slack for this, but it was a tweet I saw. Felt it (un?) appropriate here.

There is a huge double standard. You're correct. Here's the irony. By skipping over murders committed by African Americans when the victims are mostly African Americans, doesn't it undermine the " black lives matter " slogan.

 

[SV Fan]

It's bigger than that. There was a mass shooting in New Orleans, SV.

Did you hear any comments about that in the mainstream media?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-investigate-orleans-shooting-left-16-wounded-35367005

Mainstream media? What do you listen to Glen beck or Rush Limbaugh?

Simple fact is the media basically goes for mass shooting that deviate from the norm(when somebody attacks a place you least expect it to happen)

 

[Taarna]

USA Crime Statistics 2015.

When the shooting happens:

Blacks killed by Whites 2%
Blacks killed by Police 1%
Whites killed by Police 3%
Whites killed by Whites 16%
Whites Killed by Blacks 81%
Blacks killed by Blacks 97%

 

[SV Fan]

USA Crime Statistics 2015.

When the shooting happens:

Blacks killed by Whites 2%
Blacks killed by Police 1%
Whites killed by Police 3%
Whites killed by Whites 16%
Whites Killed by Blacks 81%
Blacks killed by Blacks 97%

You do know those Trump Statistics are a pile of BS don't you?

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/trump-retweets-bogus-crime-graphic/

 

[Taarna]

Mainstream media? What do you listen to Glen beck or Rush Limbaugh?

Simple fact is the media basically goes for mass shooting that deviate from the norm(when somebody attacks a place you least expect it to happen)

I think Beck is a moron. The media has its own narrative and seems quick to politicize when one certain group does the shooting, and quick to quiet their tone when another group does it.

 

[Taarna]

You do know those Trump Statistics are a pile of BS don't you?

Trump? No sir. These are USA Crime Statistics 2015.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Why is Obama so quick to politicize a gun shooting when it's at the hands of a USA caucasian, but tones down the message when it's a minority of Jihad Islam type?

Because he like most people with a brain realize that the current gun laws are terrible?

 

[Taarna]

Seems like he went on a rant about Gun Control with the Planned Parenthood shooter and San Bernardino shooter, how is that toning down the message?

Where is his rant on the multiple shootings in his hometown of Chicago? You don't have to look hard to see a double standard, SV.

 

[SV Fan]

Trump? No sir. These are USA Crime Statistics 2015.

Generally the statistics for any given year don't get released till a few months into the next year so how that internet meme got it's numbers nobody knows

 

[Taarna]

Because he like most people with a brain realize that the current gun laws are terrible?

If I had my way they would be stricter. I don't see the point to own military grade AK 47 or M 16 assault rifles for private use, but I'm okay with them being used on ranges or clubs when the gun must stay on the premises.

I also think anyone on suspected terrorist list would never be allowed to purchase them legally. But the problem is guns are easily obtained illegally, so changing the law won't get you the type of results you hope.

 

[Taarna]

Generally the statistics for any given year don't get released till a few months into the next year so how that internet meme got it's numbers nobody knows

WRONG. But I'll pull 2013 stats for you. Take note the race of the offender is dispositionally Black or African American, but the way the media covers it, you'd never know.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

 

[SV Fan]

But the problem is guns are easily obtained illegally, so changing the law won't get you the type of results you hope.

I hate this logic(ie it won't stop 100% of the cases so therefore let's not do it). If making it harder for people to get guns who are on terror lists stops one gun shooting call that bill a huge success.

Speaking of exactly that

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-acti...te-blocks-tying-gun-fight-to-obamacare-repeal

Senate blocks effort to keep guns from terrorists

Senate Republicans on Thursday rejected an amendment to the ObamaCare repeal bill that would have tied it to a separate fight on blocking suspected or known terrorists from being able to buy guns.

Senators voted 45-54 on procedural hurdle for the measure from Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

The California Democrat's proposal, which she has also introduced as a separate piece of legislation, would allow the attorney general to block the sale or transfer of a gun or explosive to a suspected or known terrorist if the individual is believed to use the weapons in an act of terrorism.

 

[hippie_hunter]

We already have a guns thread. Talk about it there.