The Winter Soldier Thread

Discussion in 'Captain America: The Winter Soldier' started by Hunter Rider, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. BullMcGiveny

    BullMcGiveny Probably Disagree

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    Yeah.

    If it happens, it'll be stupid. I doubt the Winter Soldier, spending decades doing all sorts of superspy fighting, never got a blow to the head.

    At a guess, I'd say that seeing Steve again might make him start remembering things. Or maybe not. Maybe they just capture him and SHIELD has psychiatrists de-brainwash him.
     
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  2. CastlesInTheAir

    CastlesInTheAir Well-Known Member

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    Lol that would make for good comedy though.

    *BUMP*
    Winter Soldier: Wait a minute... I remember who I am! I'm Bu-
    *WHACK*
    Winter Soldier: Ughhh... where am I? WHO am I?
     
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  3. metaphysician

    metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    I don't think that, sixty years later, HYDRA would still care about Nazi racial ideology. Sure, no explicit evidence, but its not like Red Skull overly cared about such, himself.
     
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  4. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    Are you talking comic books, or movies? Because comic book HYDRA and Red Skull practically worship Nazi racial ideology.

    If HYDRA is reborn in the MCU, or has continued to exist in "sleeper cells" since WWII, I'd think that their original ideology would be the motivating factor for bringing them into the 21st century.
     
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  5. Webfoot Hero

    Webfoot Hero West Coaster

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    In the MCU, Red Skull did say something along the lines of him no longer fitting Hitler's ideas of human or Aryan perfection. That would lead me to believe that MCU HYDRA maybe wouldn't be so hard-up on keeping racial purity.
     
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  6. JB-the-Hunter

    JB-the-Hunter Booty hunter

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    Well they handled the Narnia movies pretty well, the first one anyway, but the second wasn't too bad either (Haven't seen Voyage yet). Based on those films I can understand why Marvel got them. The films they've written have all been very well structured.
     
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  7. Hunter Rider

    Hunter Rider Ronin

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    I am loving the look they have gone for.

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  8. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    If they keep that look in the concept art, then the domino mask *is* definitely there, beneath his goggles.

    Also, since they keep the red star on his bionic arm, I'm thinking that it's becoming a lot clearer that they're sticking to the comics as far as WS' handlers --- i.e., (former) Soviets.
     
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  9. Webfoot Hero

    Webfoot Hero West Coaster

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    Are we sure he has a domino mask underneath? I keep thinking it's just a part of his goggles.
     
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  10. DN91

    DN91 SSR Agent

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    I'm thinking it's the rims of his cool-as-heck goggles, not his domino mask.
     
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  11. Mr. Dent

    Mr. Dent Well-Known Member

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    It is.
     
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  12. Silvermoth

    Silvermoth Avenger

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    The Winter Soldier looks awesome but I'm surprised they haven't cast General Lukin. I would have thought he would be a pretty important character to include, way more than Crossbones or whatever. Maybe they just haven't announced it yet or they're keeping it a secret?

    Or maybe they're worried a character like that might offend the Russians. Kind of a shame because I don't really see the Winter Soldier, Crossbones or Batroc as major puppeteers type villains, more like goons.
     
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  13. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    Why would goggles have two sets of rims? :huh:

    The rims are plainly visible there as silver/white/metallic. Then there's black, that extends up into diamond points *beneath* that....like a domino mask. Y'know --- the domino mask from the comic book?
     
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  14. BullMcGiveny

    BullMcGiveny Probably Disagree

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    I think the cold war angle will be only brushed briefly.

    On the other hand, I do wonder if Alexander Lukin is going to turn out to be the true identity of Alexander Pierce. Perhaps Lukin spent decades as an agent of SHIELD while secretly having an agenda of his own.
     
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  15. TX85

    TX85 Well-Known Member

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    Great concept art and I like the look!
     
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  16. DaddlerTheDalek

    DaddlerTheDalek Starship Captain

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    Really Cool!
     
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  17. bunk

    bunk superhero fan

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    They'll be shooting the Teddy Roosevelt bridge in D.C. on Sunday. Sounds like it will probably just be aerial shots.
     
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  18. Quasimod0

    Quasimod0 Bell-Ringer

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    I like the look. Looks exactly like the winter soldier I know, but with a mask. So I'm actually cool with it
     
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  19. Silvermoth

    Silvermoth Avenger

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    That...is a very good idea. Plus it fits the cold war espionage theme. Who do you trust etc. Very le Carre.
     
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  20. DN91

    DN91 SSR Agent

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    I hope we get a shout out to the original Winter Soldier comic story with the "Who the hell is Bucky?" line.
     
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  21. herolee10

    herolee10 No More Miracles

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    I'm actually wondering though on how they'll present Winter Soldier being someone that can go toe to toe with Rogers since I don't think Bucky was given anything special that gave him the same type of physical attributes that Steve got from the SS and that alone makes Roger stronger than most regular human beings.
     
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  22. cph9fa

    cph9fa Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking the silver part was the rigid frame, and the black was a soft rubber cup around the edge. Like swimming goggles have.
     
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  23. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    Holy crap.
    That's a genius idea.

    Could also explain why there hasn't been a real "frontrunner" for WS' puppet master. And given Marvel Studios' propensity for hiring Oscar-caliber actors for their villains, Redford makes a lot of sense.
     
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  24. psylockolussus

    psylockolussus Well-Known Mutant

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    I can't wait to see Sebastian Stan. I think he's quite attractive and hot!
     
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  25. peterparker0077

    peterparker0077 Well-Known Member

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    yep, i have been thinking this since they cast him and we heard of Fury's angle in the film. Posted it a while back.
     
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