The Wrestling Thread Says, "Welcome to...WRESTLE...MANIAAAAAAA!!!!!" - Part 52

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[Pink Ranger]

Oh yes. Go in with someone. Thats what I'm doing. WWE PPVs, especially the B ones, are not worth what they cost. The only ones that is usually worth buying is WM and even that is too expensive.

Between rising PPV prices and people buying together they are getting a big wet bite taken out of the a** of their buyrates

I miss having dude friends who still watch WWE. Back in the day, we'd get 5 guys together to pool and buy PPVs. Then they grow up and get married and suddenly TV violence is "wrong" somehow.

 

[Nightmare]

Is THIS the thread for WRESTLEMANIA!?!??!?!!

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

New thread ready for WM weekend!

 

[Van Petrol]

Anyone know what the problems are between Taker and Lesnar?

 

[bullets]

I miss having dude friends who still watch WWE. Back in the day, we'd get 5 guys together to pool and buy PPVs. Then they grow up and get married and suddenly TV violence is "wrong" somehow.

I know guy that will do that for UFC but the very few of my friends watch wrestling don't live nearby.



I've decided to order Wrestlemania. It's expensive but I think it might be worth it this year. I don't mind interference in the Rock vs Cena match but having it end in controversy would piss me off.

 

[bullets]

Anyone know what the problems are between Taker and Lesnar?

I thought it was a bogus set-up for Lesnar to return to WWE.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I miss having dude friends who still watch WWE. Back in the day, we'd get 5 guys together to pool and buy PPVs. Then they grow up and get married and suddenly TV violence is "wrong" somehow.

There's a nifty little website where I watch it at. No need to pay for the PPV

 

[Pink Ranger]

There's a nifty little website where I watch it at. No need to pay for the PPV

How dare you sir!

 

[Metallo]

I miss having dude friends who still watch WWE. Back in the day, we'd get 5 guys together to pool and buy PPVs. Then they grow up and get married and suddenly TV violence is "wrong" somehow.

Yeah thats happened to me too. I don't have many wrestling watching friends left now either. My best friend, who was a bigger fan than ME, got married (and hates it) and pretty much doesn't get to watch like he used to. Another friend and I live pretty far apart now but we still talk fanboy stuff. I remember when the Four Horseman dvd came out and we had an epic viewing that same day.

Last time I had a big get together for a Mania was WM25.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Well with wrestling not popular these days like it was in the 90s and 80s, alot of get togethers do not even happen anymore like they use to.

 

[Slushy]

The Wrestling Thread Says, "Welcome to...WRESTLE...MANIAAAAAAA!!!!!"

Anyone know what the problems are between Taker and Lesnar?

I think they're playing it up for theatrics to set up Lesnar's match.

But if there's still any animosity when The Undertaker said "it's personal" during the infamous UFC interview, its because The Undertaker is mad that Lesnar left him and the business high and dry. The Undertaker put Lesnar over to solidify him as the top guy at No Mercy 2002, but Lesnar was supposed to return the job to Undertaker at Judgment Day 2004.

Not happy about going back to being a midcarder, jobbing to The Undertaker, being on the receiving end of backstage politics, and the traveling schedule, Lesnar left abruptly and Booker took his spot as that PPV.

Also what's everyone's most anticipated match this Sunday?

That last Cena / Rock exchange on RAW got me all pumped up , but I'm looking forward to the final Helmsley / Undertaker encounter. Throw in the history between the two, the HIAC and all their experiences in it, the possibility of seeing bloodshed again, as well as a good chance of HBK screwing over HHH and there's just so much more meaning behind it.

Because of his dislike for The Rock, Hunter has always been one to try to one-up his nemesis. Rock Vs. Cena is the main event, but believe me, The Game will do everything he can to steal the show.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

The Wrestling Thread Says, "Welcome to...WRESTLE...MANIAAAAAAA!!!!!"



I think they're playing it up for theatrics to set up Lesnar's match.

But if there's still any animosity when The Undertaker said "it's personal" during the infamous UFC interview, its because The Undertaker is mad that Lesnar left him and the business high and dry. The Undertaker put Lesnar over to solidify him as the top guy at No Mercy 2002, but Lesnar was supposed to return the job to Undertaker at Judgment Day 2004.

Not happy about going back to being a midcarder, jobbing to The Undertaker, being on the receiving end of backstage politics, and the traveling schedule, Lesnar left abruptly and Booker took his spot as that PPV.



That last Cena / Rock exchange on RAW got me all pumped up , but I'm looking to the final Helmsley / Undertaker encounter. Throw in the history between the two, the HIAC and all their experiences in it, the possibility of seeing bloodshed again, as well as a good chance of HBK screwing over HHH and there's just so much more meaning behind it.

Because of his dislike for The Rock, Hunter has always been one to try to one-up his nemesis. Rock Vs. Cena is the main event, but believe me, The Game will do everything he can to steal the show.

Well you cannot blame Brock for leaving WWE after all that.

 

[Kane52630]

I am ready for this sunday, I hope it lives up to the hype.

 

[The Sage]

Well you cannot blame Brock for leaving WWE after all that.

At the same time, Brock had to realize he couldn't be on top forever, and that it was Eddie's time to shine. Not to mention, he had to know he would be returning to the job to the Undertaker, as Taker put him over almost two years earlier in their Hell in a Cell match.

 

[SuperFerret]

And the backstage politics and travel are part of the business even to outsiders.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

At the same time, Brock had to realize he couldn't be on top forever, and that it was Eddie's time to shine. Not to mention, he had to know he would be returning to the job to the Undertaker, as Taker put him over almost two years earlier in their Hell in a Cell match.

I understand that but Brock was not on top that long as he was only in the company for 2 years. Guys who have been on top of the company like Hogan, Austin and Cena have atleast been on top for a few years. Seems he was only going to be on top for 1 year.

Also why can't TNA Impact be on the road weekly in bigger venues of atleast 10,000 people? Hell before the MNW, WCW and WWF were wrestling in arenas of 18,000+ and they were not billion dollar wrestling companies. Why can't TNA do the exact same?

 

[bullets]

That last Cena / Rock exchange on RAW got me all pumped up , but I'm looking to the final Helmsley / Undertaker encounter. Throw in the history between the two, the HIAC and all their experiences in it, the possibility of seeing bloodshed again, as well as a good chance of HBK screwing over HHH and there's just so much more meaning behind it.

Because of his dislike for The Rock, Hunter has always been one to try to one-up his nemesis. Rock Vs. Cena is the main event, but believe me, The Game will do everything he can to steal the show.

I'm most looking forward to the top three matches ( Rock/Cena , Jericho /Punk,and Triple H/Taker ) everything else has potential but could suffer from time constraints. The entire card is decent. Also I'm hoping Triple H and Undertaker climb the cage ( I can't remember the last time that happened )

I am ready for this Sunday, I hope it lives up to the hype.

Same here. I have high expectations for the main events.

 

[Metallo]

I understand that but Brock was not on top that long as he was only in the company for 2 years. Guys who have been on top of the company like Hogan, Austin and Cena have atleast been on top for a few years. Seems he was only going to be on top for 1 year.

Also why can't TNA Impact be on the road weekly in bigger venues of atleast 10,000 people? Hell before the MNW, WCW and WWF were wrestling in arenas of 18,000+ and they were not billion dollar wrestling companies. Why can't TNA do the exact same?

Just because Brock was going to job doesn't mean he wasn't going to be one of the top guys anymore ever again. He should have understood that.

He was lucky to get what he got as fast as he got. Hogan and Austin never had that given to them that fast. The fact that he got everything so fast was probably one thing that made him so impatient.

As for TNA its a cost issue. WWF had far more money at their disposal in the 80's and 90s than TNA has now and WCW was owned by Ted Turner, a billionaire head of a media empire....but WCW still lost money for years.

Even Raw started out in the same small arena every week...TAPED half the time not always live. WCW Saturday Night was also taped I believe. WWFS previous weekly shows like Superstars were also taped.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Triple H's nose is the ultimate surveillance device. It NOSE whats going on.

Its also possibly some kind of detachable smark seeking missile. It sought out Punks smark love and terminated his momentum with extreme prejudice.

This is the funniest post in weeks!

He was a tremendous on screen talent and I think he deserves his big share of praise but he's never truly going to get it without an asterisk or question marks from some people.

Its the same reason some wrestlers and wrestling promoters warn their kids about getting into the business

I feel kind of bad for HHH in a sense but its his own fault. Luckily for him I doubt he cares what anyone else thinks so it doesn't bother him. But I do think HE cares about his place in the WWE pantheon.

Its got to burn him up that someone like Hogan was the man and he wasn't or that the Warrior might have made a bigger mainstream impact than he did.

It's a complex one because if he really does love Steph then life is more important than wrestling, but not to some of these guys, I mean read their books, they all are fine admitting to bad human behaviour and treating their family poorly, but none of them want to admit politicking and all the ******** they pull backstage, wrestling is a surreal world all of it's own, at least it was up until the more recent generation.

Triple H has a family and has more power than even Hogan had and I'm not sure how much he worries about being among the biggest draws ever, however on the workers side of things I think he cares, and I think it probably eats at him how a lot of his legacy has a cloud hanging over how much he earned and how much he stole through his power.

I agree. I've always said that for the longest time Angle wasn't a guy who could work men of different styles and sizes as well as others. He never changed gear. he always needed someone better to lead him. Thats why his matches with Hogan...weren't all that great. People joke about Michaels vs Hogan but Michaels knew how to work the big man a lot better than Kurt Angle did

And Cena did indeed get it a year too early. He was immediately thrust into the top spot without time to ease into it. He basically had to learn on the job as the star of the WWE.

Angle is a great performer if the guy with him is also good and I think he's gotten better overall with time, but he was not a guy that could adapt to a lesser talent to carry them.

I think Cena needed another year, he'd spent too long in SD's taped environment and hadn't worked enough good talent to be ready for the role he was given.

ok I marked BIG TIME when I saw saw this.

Has Flair got a wig on or is it a fan?

I'm sorry, but they all sound like a bunch of whiny little girls, IMO. If there's a problem with the Rock, be a man and take it up with the Rock, something I wholly give Cena credit for. Orton should not blame The Rock for being in a filler match, and if he does, management building up Sheamus is just as responsible for Orton being in a filler spot as the Rock is, so he should be *****ing about them too. Not to mention, Rock being in the ME would make more money than Orton, so he really just comes off as sipping haterade, much like he did when he tried to say his match with Kane has the crowd more excited than the Sheamus/Bryan bout.

In the case of Punk, he really shouldn't hold it against rock for the things other people credit the Rock with, and once more, if he had a personal problem with Rock, he should take it up with The Rock. I remember the recent Taker/Lesnar situation at the MMA fight, and Taker couldve easily *****ed to that MMA interviewer about his problems with Lesnar, instead he simply said "its personal", and left it at that. Cena's the only guy who actually has a point, but even then he just comes off as whiny constantly saying "I'm here, he's not".

Punk didn't blame The Rock over the buyrate thing he said it irritated him and Rock tweeted him with the arrogant "I make more money in a night than you'll make in a lifetime" comment, something Punk laughed at because it was in response to Punk commenting on Rock being a glory hogging kiss ass in the worked shoot promo, he never mentioned money. As for the other issue of Rock's attitude backstage, how is he going to talk to him when the issue is Rock ignores everyone and is surrounded by an entourage? The Taker/Brock thing was a work when Vince was hoping to get Lesnar to work last years Mania, that's why Haitch/Taker last year was such a rush job.

As for Orton, I don't care about him but I'm saying put yourself in his shoes and then tell me you'd be so happy about it, I can fully understand how he feels when his thanks for a years work of busting his ass is to be in a filler match, how would you feel if you worked all year long at your gig and then come the biggest showcase and payday of the year three guys who have done nothing all year swan in and take the spotlight and the money? pretty damn disgrunteld I'd wager.

At the same time, Brock had to realize he couldn't be on top forever, and that it was Eddie's time to shine. Not to mention, he had to know he would be returning to the job to the Undertaker, as Taker put him over almost two years earlier in their Hell in a Cell match.

That's the problem with Haitch and Taker, just do the ****ing job and that's that, always wanting their win back, puhlease! Lesnar was never heading to the mid-card either, he was probably going over to Raw to be top guy over there.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I haven't been this excited for a Wrestlemania since Wrestlemania 24.

Mainly because I've really only wanted to see one match in each of the last 3 manias:

The Taker Match, which is sad that that is the only match that will draw. I didn't purchase the last 3 manias because of that.

TBH, I only saw the full Taker vs Triple H match from last year today.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Just because Brock was going to job doesn't mean he wasn't going to be one of the top guys anymore ever again. He should have understood that.

He was lucky to get what he got as fast as he got. Hogan and Austin never had that given to them that fast. The fact that he got everything so fast was probably one thing that made him so impatient.

As for TNA its a cost issue. WWF had far more money at their disposal in the 80's and 90s than TNA has now and WCW was owned by Ted Turner, a billionaire head of a media empire....but WCW still lost money for years.

Even Raw started out in the same small arena every week...TAPED half the time not always live. WCW Saturday Night was also taped I believe. WWFS previous weekly shows like Superstars were also taped.

Yeah but there main shows had crowds of 10,000 people not 100 and ppvs of 18,000 plus not 500. And WWF and WCW were in the same financial state in the mid 90s before the MNW that TNA is in now.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I saw the ESPN Scott Hall documentary tonight, was it only meant to be 18 minutes? because that's all I got.

 

[bullets]

That sounds about right. I watched it online somewhere and remember thinking "that was it?"