The Xbox One - Part 7

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Meh, I guess I just have patience. I mean, a day would be bad, but 20 minutes, even an hour isn't so bad. I'd just let it go while I did something else. Not a big deal.

I'd say it's more of a big deal this gen with these more powerful consoles. we expect them to do things faster and more efficiently than the last gen.

and it's a bigger deal for MS when your competitor can do it super fast. if I were in charge of that part of the Xbox development, I'd be asking "Why does it take so long for the X1 to install games from the disc, and how can the PS4 do it so fast?" I'd get myself and my team on that problem and find a way to fix it.
 
I dont think anyone has answered this but on the X1, do you really have to wait for the entire thing to install before playing? It doesnt let you in within 2-3 minutes and install in the background like the PS4?
 
I can't wait for The Evil Within. It looks so creepy. I'll wait for reviews before I buy, but so far, it looks promising.

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I dont think anyone has answered this but on the X1, do you really have to wait for the entire thing to install before playing? It doesnt let you in within 2-3 minutes and install in the background like the PS4?

that's my understanding. you have to wait for the full install before you can start playing.

or, more specifically I think, you have to wait for the update file to install before you can start playing. and it's the update part that really slows everything down.

at least......that's my understanding. it's not as fast and efficient as the PS4, that's for sure.

MS needs to work on this.
 
I can't wait for The Evil Within. It looks so creepy. I'll wait for reviews before I buy, but so far, it looks promising.

I've already got it pre-ordered for Xbox One. The early impressions were lukewarm, but the later stuff is much more polished and well received. I think it's going to be excellent, Shinji Mikami is a godhand of game design, even his few failures are pretty interesting to play.
 
I had to Google who that was. Didn't know he was the creator of RE. Pretty cool!
 
Yep, created both "schools" of RE, with the original Resident Evil, REMake, and RE4.
 
Evil Within is a survival horror game like RE??
 
Yup, its a survival horror.

The Evil Within is an upcoming survival horror video game developed by Tango Gameworks and released by Bethesda Softworks for the PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One video game consoles
 
I dont think anyone has answered this but on the X1, do you really have to wait for the entire thing to install before playing? It doesnt let you in within 2-3 minutes and install in the background like the PS4?
I haven't installed a game from disc since TitanFall until Destiny last night and it was super-fast and it also had on screen that it was ready to play very soon after starting. I didn't test that though as it was installing so fast that I just let it finish. I think on a different game at launch it had said it was ready to play but I couldn't access the game.
 
I just read some solid hands on with the evil within at GAF..

So I got the chance to play The Evil Within's mansion level at an event held in a Game store in London. I played for around an hour and a half and beat the level on both Casual and Survival difficulties. Survival is the normal difficulty level. There are two above it that were locked out - Nightmare and Akumu.


Controls - First thing I did when I got my hands on it was to get a feel for the controls. Aiming is weighty - the reason you don't have a laser pointer for a reticule in this game is because the reticule is dynamic. Think Counter-Strike - when your moving and panning the camera around the reticule is spread out - stop and keep it steady, the reticule is smaller and you are more accurate. Coupled with the weighty aiming, this makes the gunplay less snappy than the likes of an RE4. But that's a good thing. If RE4 skewed a little bit towards the action spectrum in the survival horror genre, then the Evil Within skews towards a more tactical, survival-based approach. A lot of the time you don't want to take enemies on head-on.

Ammo is scarce. If you are not using your resources carefully, you will run out of ammo. The game isn't afraid to throw multiple enemies at you even if you have next to no ammo.

The game is challenging. You do not want to be in close proximity to an enemy with only a few rounds left in your pistol. I tended to run back and aim from midrange. Multiple enemies can overwhelm you very quickly. In this game, more so than in RE4, you will need to make use of every available resource in a gunfight. For example, I had the unfortunate luck of facing 4-5 enemies in a single room. Taking out one guy with a few well placed headshots with the pistol alerted all his friends in the same room. In this game you can't shoot one of them in leg then run up and do a roundhouse kick in the face of three guys in front of you. After the first guy was down, another was coming really quickly towards me from the doorway I shot his friend from. Precise, time consuming aiming with the pistol was no an option here - too much risk if I missed. I switched to my shotgun. I blew the enemy's head off as he was two feet away from me. I then very quickly switched to my explosive crossbow bolt and shot one of the remaining two enemies who were further back. Both thankfully exploded in satisfying chunks of gore. What makes these encounters so exhilarating is that had I missed the first few shots with my pistol, the encounter would have gone very poorly or I would have run out of ammo very quickly.


There is no go-to weapon here. No ideal way to dispatch a group of enemies every time. Every encounter, I had to stop and think, plan ahead on my next moves. Because once a group of enemies are alerted to your presence in a room, you have to react quickly on instinct and make decisions on which weapons to conserve and which you can afford to use in this encounter - because the next one might require it more.

Playing through the level multiple times, I really appreciated the occasional random enemy placements. There is less trial and-error gameplay, and it keeps you on your toes as there might be a threat behind every door. I also found that it helps replayability a great deal.

The gunplay is satisfying - the tactical decision making you do for tough encounters makes it really satisfying when those decisions pay off.

I won't bore you guys with how great the art in this game looks, or how you can take multiple paths to beat a level because, well you guys can all see it in the long gameplay videos on youtube. I mainly wanted to talk about the mechanics of the game. I loved my time with it. This isn't the next RE4 - this game is if RE4 grew some balls and stopped treating you like an action hero and took pleasure in punishing you, taking away the things you like - your ammo, your snappy aiming, you're paused inventory screen, your unlimited run and so on.

Take it from me, Mikami is back to school designers on a new type of modern TPS.
 
Good, that sounds like the original RE. That's the way I prefer survival horrors.
 
Sounding good. I know for a while there, there was some doubts on the game. Hopefully this turns out to be a solid title.
 
do you still have a PS3? you could put the 500 GB drive into the PS3.

or, you could buy a "case" that turns the drive into a usb external drive.

and when it comes to reinstalling the games, that should be super easy cuz as we've discussed, it's very fast to install games on the PS4.

Digital games or DLC, though, you'd have to redownload. so that might take some time.

As for your saves, back them up to a USB stick first, then transfer them back to the new drive.
yeah I guess that's not a bad idea. What kind of HD does the Ps4 support? Same as Ps3 I'm assuming
 
If this gen is going to go on as long as MS/Sony seem to expect there isn't enough space for us to buy as much as they want us to buy! Logic failure. I filled 4 360 hard drives, about 700GB with just DLC and arcade games a few years ago and then had to start deleting before buying any more. That's with no retail games installed at all. And now this gen everything is so much bigger. When I get back to my usual levels of playing I will only be able to use the systems as intended when I have a massive external HD.

how long is this generation supposed to last according to microsoft and sony? The last generation was 8 years, 7 years if you count all of the consoles launched together and the generation before that was 4-5 years. A generation's gotta be at least 5 years in order to be even a good investment for gamers.

I guess it was pretty smart for microsft to ditch the xbox 1 early on and go with the successor. I really wonder if the Ps3 launched with a $300-$400 window, if it would've struggled throughout the first half of the generation like it did in reality.

I'd like to think it'd have kept all of its 3rd party exclusives, at least
 

so would this work?

http://www.amazon.com/TOSHIBA-PH210...3879&sr=8-1&keywords=2.5”+internal+Serial+ATA

and if so what does the name brand matter? like what makes the toshiba brand any better/different than a competitive 1TB HD?
 
so would this work?

http://www.amazon.com/TOSHIBA-PH210...3879&sr=8-1&keywords=2.5”+internal+Serial+ATA

and if so what does the name brand matter? like what makes the toshiba brand any better/different than a competitive 1TB HD?

I guess it would work...........

The only thing I can say about brands is avoid Seagate. talking to the guys here, that's their recommendation.

The one I have my eye on at Best Buy is this WD model:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-main...26&st=categoryid$pcmcat270900050001&cp=1&lp=7
 
I guess it would work...........

The only thing I can say about brands is avoid Seagate. talking to the guys here, that's their recommendation.

The one I have my eye on at Best Buy is this WD model:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-main...26&st=categoryid$pcmcat270900050001&cp=1&lp=7
you don't sound too confident lol

wait so you're saying you don't trust your guys and that's why you're saying stay away from seagate, coz that's the one they're recommending?

but what makes one better than the other? like, do some run faster than others? they're all the same **** aren't they, just 1 TB HDs... what could possibly make one better than the other
 
you don't sound too confident lol

wait so you're saying you don't trust your guys and that's why you're saying stay away from seagate, coz that's the one they're recommending?

but what makes one better than the other? like, do some run faster than others? they're all the same **** aren't they, just 1 TB HDs... what could possibly make one better than the other

I'd ask Havok83 for more advice. he's the one who recommended to stay away from Seagate. He said the brand used to be good but now isn't as reliable. He said I'd be better getting the WD brand.

just like with everything else, quality will vary amongst brands.

ask Havok in the PS4 thread, or PM him.

And personally, I'd buy locally from a store, rather than online. especially if the prices are comparable.

at least with the store, if it doesn't work, you can return it ( but I'd ask them first to confirm it ). and probably easier to do that than ship it back.
 
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I'd ask Havok83 for more advice. he's the one who recommended to stay away from Seagate. He said the brand used to be good but now isn't as reliable. He said I'd be better getting the WD brand.

just like with everything else, quality will vary amongst brands.

ask Havok in the PS4 thread, or PM him.

And personally, I'd buy locally from a store, rather than online. especially if the prices are comparable.

at least with the store, if it doesn't work, you can return it ( but I'd ask them first to confirm it ). and probably easier to do that than ship it back.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/175089-who-makes-the-most-reliable-hard-drives

From my own personal experience, I purchased the Seagate 3tb Backup Plus on BF 2012. It was dead in about 9-10 months. I purchased another BF of last year and that one started giving me problems within 3 months. I'll never buy a Seagate drive again and reading up online now Ive found out that they tend to be the most unreliable of the major brands. Just click that link I posted for a study done at the beginning of the year. The failure rate compared to the others is pretty significant. Seagates are cheap which makes them tempting. One may not run into any problems at all but if you get corrupted data or your system has trouble accessing/recognizing it months down the line, it's because they are pretty much inferior to the other brands
 
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/175089-who-makes-the-most-reliable-hard-drives

From my own personal experience, I purchased the Seagate 3tb Backup Plus on BF 2012. It was dead in about 9-10 months. I purchased another BF of last year and that one started giving me problems within 3 months. I'll never buy a Seagate drive again and reading up online now Ive found out that they tend to be the most unreliable of the major brands. Just click that link I posted for a study done at the beginning of the year. The failure rate compared to the others is pretty significant. Seagates are cheap which makes them tempting. One may not run into any problems at all but if you get corrupted data or your system has trouble accessing/recognizing it months down the line, it's because they are pretty much inferior to the other brands

are those results for external drives or internal?
 
are those results for external drives or internal?
internal but its all the same as Seagate externals are simply their internals in an enclosure. You can open them up and its the same model number as their internal line
 
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