The Xbox One

[Dugath]

so the grip doesn't feel too "bumpy" or "plasticy"?

Bumpy would be the wrong word, it feels rough as the bumps are so small. It just gives a different feel to it, nothing I actually notice unless I think about it.

 

[X Knight]

Bumpy would be the wrong word, it feels rough as the bumps are so small. It just gives a different feel to it, nothing I actually notice unless I think about it.

ah, thanks.

 

[zenith16]

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source: GI

 

[MadVillainy]

Probably gonna get an Xbox One S before the end of the year.

I have a couple of questions:
1) Does the S come in black?
2) I'm not going to be playing that many games. I'll have a few but not a lot. But how much space does a game save usually take? I'm debating whether to buy the 500MB, 1TB, or 2TB
3) I know Scorpio is coming out next year. The main difference is that it allows 4K gaming and VR support right?

 

[X Knight]

Probably gonna get an Xbox One S before the end of the year.

I have a couple of questions:
1) Does the S come in black?
2) I'm not going to be playing that many games. I'll have a few but not a lot. But how much space does a game save usually take? I'm debating whether to buy the 500MB, 1TB, or 2TB
3) I know Scorpio is coming out next year. The main difference is that it allows 4K gaming and VR support right?

1) As of now, there are no black consoles. the regular consoles come in white. and there is a limited edition red GOW 4 2tb console coming out in the future.

2) The game saves themselves don't take up too much space. It's the game install size that takes up the space on your hard drive. And it varies based on the game. Some games can be up to 60 GB or more once you factor in all the updates and DLC. Usually, figure about 40-60 GB install size for major AAA titles.

Also, you don't have access to the full 500GB, 1TB, or 2TB because the OS takes up space. For the 500GB console, I think you really only have around 350GB-370GB of free space. For the 1TB, I think it was around 700GB or something. So, keep that in mind.

The upside is that with the X1, you can attach up to 2 external hard drives ( up to 4TB each, I think ).

So, if you don't plan on playing too many games, you could get by with the cheaper 500GB and buy an external hdd if you need more space. Though, I'd recommend spending the extra $50 to get at least the 1TB model. You will be surprised at how fast that 500GB fills up. All it takes is owning about 4-6 major titles, and that could take up most of that 500GB.

3) Technically, that is the main difference with the Scorpio. It is supposed to support native 4K gaming ( the S only supports upscaling games to 4K ) as well as VR.

However, the Scorpio will be about 4 times more powerful than the current X1 and S models. So, technically, that means the extra power could benefit existing X1 games with better performance, more stable frame rates, etc. Just how much, though, is not yet clear. The S itself has been reported to provide a slight boost to certain games, mainly with steadier frame rates. So, one would imagine the Scorpio would provide a more noticeable benefit, but we don't really know.

 

[Tron Bonne]

To the point of number 3, it needs to be pointed out that no one really knows anything about the Scorpio for sure. All we know for sure is that it exists. Everything X said is actually based on rumor and speculation: there has been nothing officially announced about it.

 

[X Knight]

To the point of number 3, it needs to be pointed out that no one really knows anything about the Scorpio for sure. All we know for sure is that it exists. Everything X said is actually based on rumor and speculation: there has been nothing officially announced about it.

the part about the Scorpio possibly boosting performance for existing X1 games is more speculation, I agree.

however, the part about the Scorpio supporting native 4K gaming and VR is more than speculation. that was part of Spencer's presentation at E3 - he and the video package made a point that their goal for Scorpio is to be powerful enough to support true 4K gaming and VR games like Fallout VR.

Now, of course, we don't have specifics beyond 6 teraflops of power, and whether or not the Scorpio can actually achieve the goals of true 4K gaming and high end VR remains to be seen.

But we do know those are the stated goals of the Scorpio. MS has made at least that much clear.

 

[Iceman]

On point 2, I have a 8TB external hard drive for X1.

 

[X Knight]

On point 2, I have a 8TB external hard drive for X1.

Impressive. Most impressive.

so, clearly I was wrong, X1 can support external drives > 4TB.

do you know what the upper limit is for supported externals?

 

[MadVillainy]

1) As of now, there are no black consoles. the regular consoles come in white. and there is a limited edition red GOW 4 2tb console coming out in the future.

2) The game saves themselves don't take up too much space. It's the game install size that takes up the space on your hard drive. And it varies based on the game. Some games can be up to 60 GB or more once you factor in all the updates and DLC. Usually, figure about 40-60 GB install size for major AAA titles.

Also, you don't have access to the full 500GB, 1TB, or 2TB because the OS takes up space. For the 500GB console, I think you really only have around 350GB-370GB of free space. For the 1TB, I think it was around 700GB or something. So, keep that in mind.

The upside is that with the X1, you can attach up to 2 external hard drives ( up to 4TB each, I think ).

So, if you don't plan on playing too many games, you could get by with the cheaper 500GB and buy an external hdd if you need more space. Though, I'd recommend spending the extra $50 to get at least the 1TB model. You will be surprised at how fast that 500GB fills up. All it takes is owning about 4-6 major titles, and that could take up most of that 500GB.

3) Technically, that is the main difference with the Scorpio. It is supposed to support native 4K gaming ( the S only supports upscaling games to 4K ) as well as VR.

However, the Scorpio will be about 4 times more powerful than the current X1 and S models. So, technically, that means the extra power could benefit existing X1 games with better performance, more stable frame rates, etc. Just how much, though, is not yet clear. The S itself has been reported to provide a slight boost to certain games, mainly with steadier frame rates. So, one would imagine the Scorpio would provide a more noticeable benefit, but we don't really know.

Thanks for all the info.

Wish they came in black.



I was thinking about the 1TB anyway so what you said just affirmed what I was gonna do

About Scorpio, reading your and everyone else posts, I think I'll be fine without it. I don't care about the rumored 4k gaming or VR. And if it turns out it actually is more than that and I want it, I'll take that L.

 

[X Knight]

Thanks for all the info.

Wish they came in black.



I was thinking about the 1TB anyway so what you said just affirmed what I was gonna do

About Scorpio, reading your and everyone else posts, I think I'll be fine without it. I don't care about the rumored 4k gaming or VR. And if it turns out it actually is more than that and I want it, I'll take that L.

you're welcome.

hope you enjoy your future 1TB S!!

 

[Iceman]

Impressive. Most impressive.

so, clearly I was wrong, X1 can support external drives > 4TB.

do you know what the upper limit is for supported externals?

I remember reading when I got mine. I think it was 16TB. So you could have 2 16TBs if for some reason you needed. But when I was looking back then the prices for some reason went through the roof as soon as you hit 10TB. Like not proportional to size any more, otherwise I would have got bigger.

 

[Tron Bonne]

the part about the Scorpio possibly boosting performance for existing X1 games is more speculation, I agree.

however, the part about the Scorpio supporting native 4K gaming and VR is more than speculation. that was part of Spencer's presentation at E3 - he and the video package made a point that their goal for Scorpio is to be powerful enough to support true 4K gaming and VR games like Fallout VR.

Now, of course, we don't have specifics beyond 6 teraflops of power, and whether or not the Scorpio can actually achieve the goals of true 4K gaming and high end VR remains to be seen.

But we do know those are the stated goals of the Scorpio. MS has made at least that much clear.

I know all this, but it was worth being clear since you seemed to present that part as fact. We really don't know anything about Scorpio outside leaks and rumors that may or may not end up being true. It was worth clarifying.

 

[X Knight]

I know all this, but it was worth being clear since you seemed to present that part as fact. We really don't know anything about Scorpio outside leaks and rumors that may or may not end up being true. It was worth clarifying.

I understand.

But if you read my answer, you'll see I used quite a few qualifying words like "technically," "supposed to," "could," "not yet clear," "one would imagine," " we don't really know."

So, I wasn't trying to present the info as hard fact - that wasn't my intent.

 

[X Knight]

I remember reading when I got mine. I think it was 16TB. So you could have 2 16TBs if for some reason you needed. But when I was looking back then the prices for some reason went through the roof as soon as you hit 10TB. Like not proportional to size any more, otherwise I would have got bigger.

wow. that's a lot!

but yeah, once you reach a certain size, it doesn't become cost practical.

 

[Havok83]

I know all this, but it was worth being clear since you seemed to present that part as fact. We really don't know anything about Scorpio outside leaks and rumors that may or may not end up being true. It was worth clarifying.

Well MS reiterated again today that Scorpio will support VR


http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-scorpio-wont-have-exclusive-games-except-for-/1100-6442754/

 

[ProjectPat2280]

My sis getting the 1TB S with Madden bundle next week. I'm gonna get that Scorpio next year for sure.

 

[Iceman]

Scorpio day 1 for me.

 

[X Knight]

Hopefully Scorpio won't be uber expensive at launch. If it's > $500, then it's a no go for me at launch.

curious what the Neo will cost, too.

 

[terry78]

I need to see what the thing can do graphics wise before I'm plunking down cheddar.

 

[Iceman]

Hopefully Scorpio won't be uber expensive at launch. If it's > $500, then it's a no go for me at launch.

curious what the Neo will cost, too.

I was planning to get the Neo till the Scorpio was announced. A variation in final price of 1 or 200 dollars I don't consider to be much for something I might play for a few hours every day (If I play on it for 3 years it's about 10p a day ). I'm much stingier on one off expenditures for things I can't reuse though.

 

[X Knight]

I was planning to get the Neo till the Scorpio was announced. A variation in final price of 1 or 200 dollars I don't consider to be much for something I might play for a few hours every day (If I play on it for 3 years it's about 10p a day ). I'm much stingier on one off expenditures for things I can't reuse though.

that's true. For me, a $100 variation is acceptable. But $200 or more is pushing it, imo.

plus it's not only the cost of the console but also the cost of a 4K tv.

in my case, I'd have to buy both when I get the Neo or Scorpio, so I have to factor in the cost of a 4K tv, too.

 

[X Knight]

ok, so I'm a bit confused about HDR and gaming.

I thought only certain upcoming games ( Forza Horizon 3, GOW 4, Scalebound, etc. ) support HDR.

but, according to this article, just displaying a game on a HDR display will show a difference?

http://www.businessinsider.com/what...-xbox-one-s-2016-8/#which-games-support-hdr-5

if that is the case, what's the big deal about HDR games like GOW 4?

And wouldn't that mean displaying a game in HDR isn't "exclusive" to the S, because Rise came out on the regular X1 a year ago and Uncharted 4 is a PS4 game. Yet both benefited from being displayed in HDR.

so, is the article being misleading or am I missing something here?

 

[Iceman]

I've read recent articles that suggest very different to what I'd read previously about HDR and gaming. In the past they'd not warned that it might be important to choose a TV with HDR for gaming in future (just 4K and frame rates). I got HDR for films (luckily all my TVs have it now) but I'd have been pissed off if I'd spent all that money and still not got all the features required to properly show off my new gaming systems. I'm still not sure on the situation though till there is more of a consensus in what I read.

 

[X Knight]

since you have a HDR display, Iceman, have you tested just running an X1 game on your tv with HDR mode on and then with HDR off for comparison?

can you tell a difference yourself, as that articles suggests?