The Xbox One

[Iceman]

yeah. I'll have to play around with it some more. Don't have a 4K disc yet. But I was planning on watching Tangled Blu-Ray tonight on the S ( Rapunzel on a 4K/HDR screen!! ).

In regards to Game mode, I know they recommend to use that to get the lowest Input Lag. But do I HAVE to use it?

And if I use Game mode but then start adjusting the settings, turning HDR on, etc., would that affect the input lag in Game mode, and thus defeat the purpose of using it?

If so, then I might as well just use one of the other Presets which do make the colors pop.

Love that film But you need a 4K HDR source for testing. There will be some upscaling but the point of doing this is just to make sure your TV is correctly set up.

Lol, no of course you don't have to use it. Use what suits you best. If you don't notice any difference on input lag then it's not an issue and you can set up for the best possible image instead. It's really those who are super-competitive on multiplayer for who it can make a telling difference and for them turning off TV processing effects is worth it for a slight edge on performance. And until the games are programmed to take advantage of 4K and HDR that processing isn't that important. For now just use whatever you like best and reevaluate after games comes out that do take advantage.

also, in general, with these 4K/HDR tvs, is it best to leave the "HDR Mode" on Auto?

I'm assuming, with Auto, it will use HDR when it detects a source that supports HDR. correct?

This could be different on different TVs. On my Sony it tells you when HDR is working but by default it doesn't work. You have to go to each HDM input and set it up for HDR. Kind of stupid. Again you will need a proper HDR source to test this.

 

[X Knight]

Love that film But you need a 4K HDR source for testing. There will be some upscaling but the point of doing this is just to make sure your TV is correctly set up.

Lol, no of course you don't have to use it. Use what suits you best. If you don't notice any difference on input lag then it's not an issue and you can set up for the best possible image instead. It's really those who are super-competitive on multiplayer for who it can make a telling difference and for them turning off TV processing effects is worth it for a slight edge on performance. And until the games are programmed to take advantage of 4K and HDR that processing isn't that important. For now just use whatever you like best and reevaluate after games comes out that do take advantage.

This could be different on different TVs. On my Sony it tells you when HDR is working but by default it doesn't work. You have to go to each HDM input and set it up for HDR. Kind of stupid. Again you will need a proper HDR source to test this.

thanks, Iceman. I'm sure I'll pick up a 4K dvd in the near future.

Anyways, I followed some calibration guides online and then made my own tweaks accordingly. After playing around with it, I was able to get it so that the colors pop without being an oversaturated mess - even on Game mode.

I left HDR to Auto. And from what I read online, it seems what causes the increased input lag is mainly the extra "Motion Control" stuff for blur. The non Game modes on my tv have the Motion stuff enabled. On Game mode, it's disabled, but I changed another setting the online guides recommended that's not supposed to affect input lag.

From what I tested playing a few games, I couldn't notice any input lag.

I could notice a difference in the color pop and crispness. Especially on Dragon Age Inquisition, a game that I've replayed the beginning hundreds of times due to character creator......lol.

Right off the bat, in Character Creator, I could tell a difference - indeed, it almost felt like using a different Creator.......lol. Stuff like the eye colors just seemed to pop and stand out more.

Once I got into the actual game, again, not a dramatic difference, but I could tell an overall crispness and color pop that I never noticed before.

I also tried Rise of Tomb Raider ( finally!! ) and that looked pretty darn good to me. t:

I can only imagine what HDR enabled games will look like - can't wait for Forza 3 and GOW 4.

indeed, I hope more future games get the HDR treatment and maybe past games ( like Rise ) could get patched for HDR.

in fact, I think MS should at least match any game that gets the Pro label with at least HDR support.

so, hopefully, that means games like FF XV and Mass Effect Andromeda get HDR support from MS, too.

 

[Iceman]

Great! So what do you put the better look down to at the moment? Once you see the 4K HDR on a film (disc) you'll know the potential, and I hope that games can aim for an equivalent upgrade using this tech within a couple of years. It can be done with 4K obviously but I'm in the dark about how much of the HDR potential can be capitalised on. I love colour variation and gradation so they could make graphics really stand out if they did it properly.

 

[X Knight]

Great! So what do you put the better look down to at the moment? Once you see the 4K HDR on a film (disc) you'll know the potential, and I hope that games can aim for an equivalent upgrade using this tech within a couple of years. It can be done with 4K obviously but I'm in the dark about how much of the HDR potential can be capitalised on. I love colour variation and gradation so they could make graphics really stand out if they did it properly.

well, since I have yet to see a true 4K HDR source, I can't really if it's the 4K or HDR that makes the difference.

too bad Force Awakens isn't available in 4K. I would have picked that up for sure. Wanted to get Man of Steel in 4K but that was sold out. Hopefully, more films get released in 4K.

right now, I guess I'd say it's the 4K and the color settings of my tv that's making stuff pop and stand out.

whether or not that's actually HDR, I have no idea.......lol.

also, I will say the speakers on my new tv are much better than my old one. much richer/deeper bass.

so, on an audio level alone, it was like a whole new experience playing through DAI again........lol.

 

[X Knight]

besides Ori, are there any other good exclusive X1 indy titles?

any "ship shooter" games similar to Gradius or Radiant Silvergun?

 

[Iceman]

well, since I have yet to see a true 4K HDR source, I can't really if it's the 4K or HDR that makes the difference.

too bad Force Awakens isn't available in 4K. I would have picked that up for sure. Wanted to get Man of Steel in 4K but that was sold out. Hopefully, more films get released in 4K.

right now, I guess I'd say it's the 4K and the color settings of my tv that's making stuff pop and stand out.

whether or not that's actually HDR, I have no idea.......lol.

also, I will say the speakers on my new tv are much better than my old one. much richer/deeper bass.

so, on an audio level alone, it was like a whole new experience playing through DAI again........lol.

Oh I mean it shouldn't be 4K or HDR that is making any difference if the source doesn't support it but just having a better more modern TV will have some improvements and there should be a degree of upscaling (very dependent on the individual TV). A lot of TVs or applications will specifically tell you when the signal is now 4K or HDR or both. Plus the S has some slight improvements of its own over the regular X1. Could be a combination of any of these things I guess.

And yes audio makes a huge difference. The acoustics of the lounge is one of the main things I look at (as well as if it can fit all my speakers in) when I move house lol. Loved the surround on the Skyrim vampire DLC underground when talking to the main character (forget his name). Turning my head left and right in the game made a huge difference to what I was hearing. Stayed down there for ages just doing that. t:

 

[Tron Bonne]

So, X Knight, I hate to do this to you, but...

http://news.xbox.com/2016/09/25/buy-an-xbox-one-s-bundle-get-an-additional-game/

You can buy any Xbox One S (or OG Xbone) model now and get a free game from select retailers. Some at GAF are saying that Target is actually allowing your free game to be collector's editions that exceed $60, but I don't know for sure. Promotion is from 9/25-10/1

 

[X Knight]

So, X Knight, I hate to do this to you, but...

http://news.xbox.com/2016/09/25/buy-an-xbox-one-s-bundle-get-an-additional-game/

You can buy any Xbox One S (or OG Xbone) model now and get a free game from select retailers. Some at GAF are saying that Target is actually allowing your free game to be collector's editions that exceed $60, but I don't know for sure. Promotion is from 9/25-10/1

yeah. I saw that.

I wonder if Best Buy will honor that, since I just bought the S 2 days ago. it's worth a shot to try, at least.

 

[X Knight]

Oh I mean it shouldn't be 4K or HDR that is making any difference if the source doesn't support it but just having a better more modern TV will have some improvements and there should be a degree of upscaling (very dependent on the individual TV). A lot of TVs or applications will specifically tell you when the signal is now 4K or HDR or both. Plus the S has some slight improvements of its own over the regular X1. Could be a combination of any of these things I guess.

And yes audio makes a huge difference. The acoustics of the lounge is one of the main things I look at (as well as if it can fit all my speakers in) when I move house lol. Loved the surround on the Skyrim vampire DLC underground when talking to the main character (forget his name). Turning my head left and right in the game made a huge difference to what I was hearing. Stayed down there for ages just doing that. t:

when I get a 4K/HDR movie or Forza 3, I'll see if my TV will tell me it's an HDR source.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Made the mistake of buying Ark Survival Evolved. I'm not sure why the industry tolerates Alpha build games. It's been nothing but bugs and crashes and Xbox won't refund me. $35 down the ****ter.

 

[X Knight]

Yay!! I got my free game!! t:

BB honored the deal and let me pick the game of my choice. I got the Bioshock Collection - last one, too.

 

[Iceman]

when I get a 4K/HDR movie or Forza 3, I'll see if my TV will tell me it's an HDR source.

Cool.

Made the mistake of buying Ark Survival Evolved. I'm not sure why the industry tolerates Alpha build games. It's been nothing but bugs and crashes and Xbox won't refund me. $35 down the ****ter.

Oh that's terrible. Wonder if others had the same problems.

Yay!! I got my free game!! t:

BB honored the deal and let me pick the game of my choice. I got the Bioshock Collection - last one, too.

Congrats!

 

[X Knight]

Cool.

Oh that's terrible. Wonder if others had the same problems.

Congrats!

yeah. I'm just glad they didn't give me a hard time (which, technically, they could have). they were super nice and accommodating.

but hey! I'll take a free game of my choice whenever I can.

can't wait to revisit Bioshock Infinite. That was my #2 game I wanted BC for, after Skyrim.

now, both are getting remastered instead. t:

also need to get my Madden code downloaded ( I got the 1TB Madden console ). I'm not much of a sports fan or sports game fan. But it's free. so I'll try it! It looks like it has a character creator, so that gets my interest. I'm going to create a Clark Kent character who's from the University of Kansas and who leads the Chiefs to Super Bowl victory. ( or maybe I'll pick the Steelers cuz they have Superman/KU colors. )

so, I'm not much into racing or sports. But I'm going to play Madden and Forza Horizon 3. all thanks to the X1 S(exy).

 

[X Knight]

wow! I thought it was just a preorder/early copy deal from last year. but I picked up Fallout 4 on sale for the X1, and it included a code for Fallout 3!

so now, I own my 1st BC title.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I'm chatting with Xbox Support about that free game promotion. I bought the 1TB Madden 17 Xbox One S bundle Saturday and found out about the free game promotion on Sunday. I hope to hell they honor the deal for me.

 

[Iceman]

I'm chatting with Xbox Support about that free game promotion. I bought the 1TB Madden 17 Xbox One S bundle Saturday and found out about the free game promotion on Sunday. I hope to hell they honor the deal for me.

Where did you buy it from? The vendor might also honour it like they did for X-Knight.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Where did you buy it from? The vendor might also honour it like they did for X-Knight.

Bought at Gamestop. Went down there and talked to the manager. He's going to honor the deal tomorrow so I can get Forza Horizon 3. I'm pretty stoked about that. t:

 

[Iceman]

Bought at Gamestop. Went down there and talked to the manager. He's going to honor the deal tomorrow so I can get Forza Horizon 3. I'm pretty stoked about that. t:

Excellent. I'm glad these various outlets are being decent about it. And good choice of game Let me know what you think of the graphics.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Excellent. I'm glad these various outlets are being decent about it. And good choice of game Let me know what you think of the graphics.

I wish I had a 4K TV so I could really see what the Xbox One S can do. The game will still look amazing regardless.

 

[Iceman]

I wish I had a 4K TV so I could really see what the Xbox One S can do. The game will still look amazing regardless.

Next thing on the list lol. At least every month you don't get one they will become cheaper and cheaper.

I still am not really clear on what the X1S does for games on a 4k HDR TV. It will be worth it just for seeing films and shows in 4K HDR but I'd love to know what the S is doing in that regard. I'll probably be waiting for Scorpio unless someone tells me there's a significant difference.

 

[X Knight]

Bought at Gamestop. Went down there and talked to the manager. He's going to honor the deal tomorrow so I can get Forza Horizon 3. I'm pretty stoked about that. t:

that's awesome!! t:

I'm so looking forward to Forza, too.

Excellent. I'm glad these various outlets are being decent about it. And good choice of game Let me know what you think of the graphics.

yep.

happy customers = repeat customers.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I've never played a Forza game before. The videos I've seen of it make it look like a lot of fun. And if it doesn't trip my trigger it was a free game that I can trade in towards whatever else so win-win.

 

[X Knight]

I've never played a Forza game before. The videos I've seen of it make it look like a lot of fun. And if it doesn't trip my trigger it was a free game that I can trade in towards whatever else so win-win.

same here. not much of a racing fan and never played a Forza game aside from the demos. But FH 3 looks like so much fun and looks like it will appeal to me as a casual gamer ( as opposed to a super technical racing sim ).

plus, it looks so gorgeous!

Next thing on the list lol. At least every month you don't get one they will become cheaper and cheaper.

I still am not really clear on what the X1S does for games on a 4k HDR TV. It will be worth it just for seeing films and shows in 4K HDR but I'd love to know what the S is doing in that regard. I'll probably be waiting for Scorpio unless someone tells me there's a significant difference.

The S is supposed to upscale everything to 4K. And it supports HDR for those games that will use it.

But in your case, since you already have an X1 and a 4K player, you'd probably be better off waiting for the Scorpio. Unless you are in need of a new 4K player and want to replace your old X1 in the same process.

 

[Iceman]

The S is supposed to upscale everything to 4K. And it supports HDR for those games that will use it.

But in your case, since you already have an X1 and a 4K player, you'd probably be better off waiting for the Scorpio. Unless you are in need of a new 4K player and want to replace your old X1 in the same process.

Oh right. Well I might get one temporarily just to see upgraded visuals on games. I've been very unclear on this for some reason all this time. Have you noticed any games that have looked significantly better than before or is it just a minor difference?

 

[X Knight]

Oh right. Well I might get one temporarily just to see upgraded visuals on games. I've been very unclear on this for some reason all this time. Have you noticed any games that have looked significantly better than before or is it just a minor difference?

Well, the only one I can make a real direct comparison is Dragon Age Inquisition. Since I spent a lot of time playing that before on the old Xbox and PS4 on my old TV, and so far, I've spent the most time playing that on the S on my new tv.

As I've said before, it looks more vibrant and crisp and everything just pops more. Now, whether that's due mainly to the 4K tv or the S or a combo of the 2, I don't know.

But there does seem to be a difference. not a major dramatic difference, but a subtle difference you can tell.

Indeed, I might do this as an experiment this week. I still have DAI on PS4. So, I'll fire it up on my PS4 and see what it looks like on my 4K tv. And I'll compare what I see on the PS4 vs the S.

that way, I can see if it's the tv making the main difference or if it's the S that's also helping out.