Theory: Charlie and Sylar

[-WildCard-]

Since we know Charlie was going to die anyways (from a brain tumor) do you think its possible that when steeling her brain Sylar would have stolen the tumor as well. They did make a point of making it an illness of the brain itself. We can assume he steels the entire brain becaus ethey are nolonger in the skull when the bodies are found. Could this be the way Sylar is defeated. I hope so, this way Charlie did not die in vain. Thoughts?

Srry if this theory has already been mentioned on a previous thread.

 

[Eddie Brock]

i don't know, Sylar can see how things should work, i think a tumor/blood clot would be obvious to him

 

[SouLeSS]

Sylar is a Tinkerer. He sees how things work and adapts his DNA to make himself work that way too.

 

[GL1]

Yeah, it's been pretty evident he's been jacking his DNA, of course, if the cause of the blood clot is genetic, then MAYbe, Charlie might be the one to take down Syalr after all...

But I honestly doubt it at this point.

 

[Marvin]

ahem...

in the original timestream she didn't have the tumor...

he messed with time so time found a different way to kill her ala HG Wells The Time Machine...

 

[MakeMineMarvel]

In other words, she died of the tumor before Sylar got her?

 

[Mysterio]

ahem...

in the original timestream she didn't have the tumor...

sure she did, but we didn't learn of it until Hiro went back in time. after all, she had already been given the japanese phrase book.

 

[Joe Rockhead]

I'm not sure that Sylar took Charlie's power. The picture that Bennett shows Eden (how he got it so soon is another question) showed Charlie dead on the floor... but it looked to me like her brain was still in her skull.

 

[ironmaidenrules]

I'm not sure that Sylar took Charlie's power. The picture that Bennett shows Eden (how he got it so soon is another question) showed Charlie dead on the floor... but it looked to me like her brain was still in her skull.

no real confirmation that sylar has charlie's powers

we never see him remeber lots of ****

no mention how new charlie in time line died, just the reeth and **** at the diner

for all we know, they could just be remebering her because she died at such a young age from the blood clot

 

[Abaddon]

they need to explain what happened in the new timestream.

 

[burning-robot]

no mention how new charlie in time line died, just the reeth and **** at the diner

Mohinder was on the phone with the police yelling at them for not warning the people on The List about the danger they are in, he lists off two of Sylars recent victimes, one of them is a "Charleen Andrews", from Midland, Texas.

 

[ironmaidenrules]

Mohinder was on the phone with the police yelling at them for not warning the people on The List about the danger they are in, he lists off two of Sylars recent victimes, one of them is a "Charleen Andrews", from Midland, Texas.

ah, i must have missed that line of dialogue

thanks

 

[Marvin]

no

a running theme(lesson learnt) in this show is that one time can't be changed...Hiro learnt this lesson and told us all

establishing that the creators of this show are choosing to follow said theory in question...

for anyone who don't know the theory its simple.

TIME CAN BE CHANGED YES...
BUT ONE CANNONT CHANGE SOMETHING THAT EFFECTS THE REASON WHY SAID PERSON GOES BACK IN TIME TO BEGIN WITH.

ie
if hiro saves charlie from sylar in past...what reason would he have had to go back in time to begin with?

answer he wouldn't have gone back to save her...BUT because he is in fact back.
time/destiny/fate , equalizes the equation in another way, and that is by having charlie die in another way.

HG wells "The time machine"

-Why can't i go back and save my wife? she keeps dying a different way when i save her!"

-Because, if she lived, what reason would u have had to build the machine?


my 2 cents

i could be wrong, but if i was i'd lose respect for this show a little bit smirk

 

[Mrh7448]

Ah..the temporal paradox's.

However since, there is a little memorial for Charlie it is very likely she was still murdered. Also since Hiro disappeared it is unlikely she would have left on her own. However, this doesn't explain why she didn't recognize him in the diner in the first place since it was apparent that Hiro was the one who gave her the book on learning Japanese, but if....ARRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!

Stupid temporal paradoxes!

Unless of course the Haitian had got to Charlie before Hiro showed up the first/second time.

BTW...this

HG wells "The time machine"

-Why can't i go back and save my wife? she keeps dying a different way when i save her!"

-Because, if she lived, what reason would u have had to build the machine?

has absolutely nothing to do with H.G. Wells...that movie was a travesty.

In the book the Machine was merely created for curiosity sakes and not for any deep emotional crap that they put into that movie. Trust me read the book it's much better.

 

[Mysterio]

no real confirmation that sylar has charlie's powers

we never see him remeber lots of ****

no mention how new charlie in time line died, just the reeth and **** at the diner

for all we know, they could just be remebering her because she died at such a young age from the blood clot

her power is more than just "a good memory", although that's how she innocently explained it.

 

[Tyrinus]

Mohinder was on the phone with the police yelling at them for not warning the people on The List about the danger they are in, he lists off two of Sylars recent victimes, one of them is a "Charleen Andrews", from Midland, Texas.

When I saw Mohinder had done that I thought it was a pretty dumbass move on his part. I mean think about it, you send the police a list of people that died, plus other names of people that you say are going to die. That's a good way to get the police to make you a suspect of the previous murders.

 

[Mrh7448]

Especially if the reason that you think they need protecting is because they have "superpowers" good way to get thrown into the looney bin...

but also a good way to bring Audrey and Matt into Mohinder's story.

 

[Abaddon]

no

a running theme(lesson learnt) in this show is that one time can't be changed...Hiro learnt this lesson and told us all

establishing that the creators of this show are choosing to follow said theory in question...

for anyone who don't know the theory its simple.

TIME CAN BE CHANGED YES...
BUT ONE CANNONT CHANGE SOMETHING THAT EFFECTS THE REASON WHY SAID PERSON GOES BACK IN TIME TO BEGIN WITH.

ie
if hiro saves charlie from sylar in past...what reason would he have had to go back in time to begin with?

answer he wouldn't have gone back to save her...BUT because he is in fact back.
time/destiny/fate , equalizes the equation in another way, and that is by having charlie die in another way.

HG wells "The time machine"

-Why can't i go back and save my wife? she keeps dying a different way when i save her!"

-Because, if she lived, what reason would u have had to build the machine?


my 2 cents

i could be wrong, but if i was i'd lose respect for this show a little bit smirk

the book was different than the movie.

 

[-Æ-]

What went down is this

Sylar only takes out the brains to study them, finding out how they work, then changes his own dna to match the power of the victim he took it from.

Charlie has always had the tumor, yet it took Hiro to go back to the past to find out that she had it, so the reason why he got stuck out in the past was because he figured that he wasnt going to be able to save her, which is true.

 

[Abaddon]

but how did the events occur in the new timeline if Charlie had now met him six months prior to him entering the diner?

 

[Eddie Brock]

but how did the events occur in the new timeline if Charlie had now met him six months prior to him entering the diner?

Haitian?

plot holes?

some unexplained that will be revealed later?

 

[Marvin]

Ah..the temporal paradox's.

However since, there is a little memorial for Charlie it is very likely she was still murdered. Also since Hiro disappeared it is unlikely she would have left on her own. However, this doesn't explain why she didn't recognize him in the diner in the first place since it was apparent that Hiro was the one who gave her the book on learning Japanese, but if....ARRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!

Stupid temporal paradoxes!

Unless of course the Haitian had got to Charlie before Hiro showed up the first/second time.

BTW...this



has absolutely nothing to do with H.G. Wells...that movie was a travesty.

In the book the Machine was merely created for curiosity sakes and not for any deep emotional crap that they put into that movie. Trust me read the book it's much better.

yea, i figured as much...but what else is there to refer to it as, even the movie has his name as reference

different or no, it presents a great point in the evolving theory of timespace

and I stand by the opinion that time can't be changed and that's why hiro said what he said to Ando when he got back.

eventhough i must admitt that wouldn't explain how ando still knew about her and that she was still murdered..

the question is
was hiros picture on the wall the whole time, including when he first walked inthere 4 episodes ago?

 

[Eddie Brock]

yea, i figured as much...but what else is there to refer to it as, even the movie has his name as reference

different or no, it presents a great point in the evolving theory of timespace

and I stand by the opinion that time can't be changed and that's why hiro said what he said to Ando when he got back.

eventhough i must admitt that wouldn't explain how ando still knew about her and that she was still murdered..

the question is
was hiros picture on the wall the whole time, including when he first walked inthere 4 episodes ago?

no, that was the whole point of it......before Hiro went back, she was alone in the picture, then at the end we could see Hiro in it......very suspenseful

 

[SLVRSR4]

I had forgotten all about her character and now there are theories she could possibly kill Sylar inadvertently!

 

[Marvin]

no, that was the whole point of it......before Hiro went back, she was alone in the picture, then at the end we could see Hiro in it......very suspenseful

I realize as far as we, the audience are concerned, the photo changed cause our memories and perceptions are kinda all knowing when compared to characters in the story...

what i meant was

when ando walked into the cafe for the first time, (given what hiro has done) what photo would he have saw?

-at what point did the photo change?

-the answer should be,
it was changed when it was taken right?

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the greater question is, if things are infact differnt this time around(hiro and charlie had relations in the past and took pictures and all that)
WHY O WHY

is ando still acting as if everything still happend?
and happened the excact same!

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So they mean to tell me that (post hiro messing around in the past)

-Two days ago(or whatnot), Hiro and Ando walked into the restaurant, and sat down and flirted with her, and they let her walk into a closet and get killed?
i mean, wouldn't she have asked hiro how he's been and where he dissapeared off to 6 months ago before they kissed?

is Ando like in some time bubble where sh1t doesn't effect him or something?