They Say He Drinks Blood: The Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Invader Joker]

In what way? Why do you think audiences will accept two Batmans but two Robins would be just too much for the audience to comprehend?

I think that adding two Robins on top of two Batmen makes things even more confusing, weirder and off-putting for the general audience, yes. Same if you added another Catwoman or something.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

I think that adding two Robins on top of two Batmen makes things even more confusing, weirder and off-putting for the general audience, yes. Same if you added another Catwoman or something.

I’m just not following the logic here.

 

[Invader Joker]

I’m just not following the logic here.

It's pretty simple logic. The more elements the two Batman movies that are gonna come out a year or so apart from each other have in common, the more redundant it gets. Got absolutely no idea what's so hard for you to understand about that.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

It's pretty simple logic. The more elements the two Batman movies that are gonna come out a year or so apart from each other have in common, the more redundant it gets. Got absolutely no idea what's so hard for you to understand about that.

Who said anything about redundancy? You said it was “bizarre”. I don’t see why having two superhero existing at the same time is anymore bizarre than one superhero at the same time. Wether it’ll be successful or not is a different question, but it’s strange to say that it’s anymore confusing than two Batmans.

 

[Invader Joker]

Who said anything about redundancy? You said it was “bizarre”. I don’t see why having two superhero existing at the same time is anymore bizarre than one superhero at the same time. Wether it’ll be successful or not is a different question, but it’s strange to say that it’s anymore confusing that two Batmans.

You know exactly what I meant. What a pointless semantics game.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

You know exactly what I meant. What a pointless semantics game.

It’s definitely pointless that’s for sure.

 

[Chris B]

A quick thought but Clayface has never really struck me as being main villain material so I'm eager to see what Reeves' take on the character is if he is going in that direction.

 

[BobJM]

I think that adding two Robins on top of two Batmen makes things even more confusing, weirder and off-putting for the general audience, yes. Same if you added another Catwoman or something.

I agree with this but if Reeves wants to include a Robin, or any character for that matter— my hope is that he wouldn’t be denied because of Gunn’s DCU slate.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

A quick thought but Clayface has never really struck me as being main villain material so I'm eager to see what Reeves' take on the character is if he is going in that direction.

Main villain isn't a big stretch, but I can't imagine what a realistic take on Clayface would be like

 

[Chris B]

Main villain isn't a big stretch, but I can't imagine what a realistic take on Clayface would be like

I definitely think it'll be something along the Golden Age Era version of the character. Maybe they can say he has malleable skin that helps him to pull off his disguises or something? I can still see there being a heightened quality to the character even if he isn't literally a mud monster.

 

[BobJM]

I’m thinking it’d be an amalgamation of the Golden Age & Earth One. I see him as more of a pawn/hitman in a larger scheme…

Maybe instead of cryogenically frozen undead zombie Talons, the Court of Owls uses a man with no identity to carry out their deeds…

As Gordon describes him in Earth One:

“[Clayface’s] skin has been altered somehow, fused with a compound that no one’s been able to identify. It’s given his flesh a…malleable quality. The doctors who we’ve spoken to think it could be some kind of experimental plastic surgery or chemical exposure or even a birth defect. They can’t rule anything out…As for his identity, when his fingerprints were more closely examined, we discovered another layer underneath the ones he current has…”

 

[Invader Joker]

I'm personally convinced the only reason he even wants to do Clayface is because of Mike Marino's prosthetic masks.



I don't expect him to do anything close to actual shape shifting, not even Earth One based, not only because of the realism factor (tho that's an important one, as even the shape-shifting in Earth One does not line up with Reeves approach for The Batman) mostly because I think its this sort of masks that he specifically wants Clayface to make and use.

Side note: It'd be cool and sick as hell if instead of having different actors play Clayface depending on who impersonates and it's the Mission Impossible way, its the same actor wearing a prosthetic mask made by Marino and doing the actual impersonations. That alone would be infinitely more cinematically interesting than any actual shapeshift.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

It would be pretty awesome if they kept it a secret, then later in the movie like 3 different characters turn out to have been played by the same guy in different prosthetics

 

[WatchProtect]

If they're gonna have Clayface impersonate other people, I'd steer away from having it be anybody we know, in regards to prosthetics.

Meaning, I don't think Clayface' actor should wear a Robert Pattinson mask as such that Robert Pattinson should just portray him when and if he's Bruce Wayne.

What about getting three or four different actors/actresses to portray "different" characters then in the end it's revealed they're all the same guy or girl? Not through prosthetics but just each other looking vaguely similar.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

I can’t wait to see Robin. So glad we’re getting Dick’s origin, it’s honestly my favorite storyline in all of Batman. The way their two stories parallel each other is so heartwarming. I hope they are deeply inspired both by Robin’s Reckoning and Dark Victory- as well as Year Three and just the OG origin story

 

[emielaen]

Robin being in Part II isn’t set in stone just yet. Even if it is, I think it’ll be more about helping the kid get through **** as opposed to him actually fighting crime by the 3rd act.

 

[C Prometheus]

Robin being in Part II isn’t set in stone just yet. Even if it is, I think it’ll be more about helping the kid get through **** as opposed to him actually fighting crime by the 3rd act.

Agreed. Even if we see Dick's origin story in Part II, I don't think it's a given at all that he'll be donning the Robin mantle before the end of the film. Hell, for that matter, even if we do see him become Robin, I still doubt that we'll be seeing him beating up a ton of thugs or villains all on his own in this movie either. He might get in a skirmish or two, but I'd wager that Reeves will either have Robin focus on supporting Batman outside of combat or merely training in this film.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

The Penguin (TV Mini Series 2024– ) | Crime, Drama, Fantasy

The Penguin: With Alex Anagnostidis, Craig Walker, Clancy Brown, Shohreh Aghdashloo. It follows the transformation of Oswald Cobblepot from a disfigured nobody to a noted Gotham gangster.

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Mark Strong is on the casting list. Could be a hidden role like they did with Keoghan.

 

[Sawyer]

IMDB doesn’t really have the best track record. I can tell you one thing, if Strong IS involved, he’s definitely not playing Falcone like some rumors have said. That would just make no sense.

 

[Boom]

If Mark Strong is actually in this, and it's a mystery role, then I would assume it's a pretty major part. You don't cast someone of his caliber for a bit part (it's why so many of us were suspicious of the Keoghan/Merkel thing from the get-go).

 

[Erik Lensherr]

The Penguin (TV Mini Series 2024– ) | Crime, Drama, Fantasy

The Penguin: With Alex Anagnostidis, Craig Walker, Clancy Brown, Shohreh Aghdashloo. It follows the transformation of Oswald Cobblepot from a disfigured nobody to a noted Gotham gangster.

m.imdb.com

Mark Strong is on the casting list. Could be a hidden role like they did with Keoghan.

Black Mask!

 

[Mani-Man]

Black Mask!

Oh man, that would be so cool.
Would love to see Black Mask in any of the Batman Live Action universes.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

We really need some new, juicy rumours to talk about.

 

[Sawyer]

We really need some new, juicy rumours to talk about.

I heard that Batman is gonna fight the Sinister Six in this next one.

 

[HydraSith12]

Matt Reeves should hurry and use the Court of Owls that storyline fits perfectly with the Batman world