This is a touchy subject...

[y2jversion1]

Yeah, it's pretty stupid how just because I don't talk in the latest hip-hop lingo, know all the members of Gunit, or dress all "thugged-out", I get called "White-washed".

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah, it's pretty stupid how just because I don't talk in the latest hip-hop lingo, know all the members of Gunit, or dress all "thugged-out", I get called "White-washed".

Exactly. Personally, I'm really tired of Black males who ware their pants hanging off of their asses.

 

[That-Guy]

Here's a question I have for everyone here, that's related... Who else is getting sick and tired of EVERY rapper out there being GIVEN a movie career? Okay, sure, there have been a few who actually COULD act, but the majority of them have about as much screen presence as a desk lamp. There are plenty of actors out there (black, white, etc.) who could make even the most poorly scripted movie somewhat watchable, and yet they're all struggling to get work because some ass-hole producer wants to capitalize on some rapper's 15 minutes of fame.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Oh, but you have nothing to say about SINGERS for whom they do the same thing?
j/k.
I feel you, though.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I have a dream where we will judge cinematic output not by the color of the cast and crew's skin but by the content of their film.

That, I'm afraid, will never happen. There will always be color lines. My problem is that a certain group keeps consistently putting out the same type of film & gets praised by the community that they're disservicing.
This is why, in my eyes, a minority actor hasn't made it or done ANYTHING until they have played a role that could just as easily have gone to a white actor. A good example would be Laurence Fishburne playing Morpheus. Another is Jimmy Smits as Bail Organa. (It doesn't necessarily have to be a sci-fi film but you see my point here.) That is how you break out of the stereotype box. Go for more & we'll get more.

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

Jimmy Smits as Bail Organa kind of bugged me.

how does Bail go from this tall Latino guy to this short white guy?

hes no Bruce Campbell but Jimmy is a kickass actor.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

This bothers me also.But their are some quality black films out there.Not much,but theres some quality films.Spike's still bringing quality.But,thats not enough IMO.There needs to be a change in Hollywood.By any means necessary.

 

[reggiebar]

This is regarding my growing dissatisfaction with movies that have either predominantly black casts, and/or are made by black filmmakers.
What is wrong with these people? Do they really think this mindless tripe is entertaining? If so, it says a lot about my community-none of which is good.
Yesterday a co-worker asked me if I'd seen "Little Man", & when I said I had no interest in seeing it, she went into a rant about how I had a "responsibilty" to support all black films.
That is the most ridiculous thing I'd ever heard. As I see it, by not supporting mediocrity, I am demanding better. I am saying that my standards are higher than what I am being offered, so I pass.
Here's what really irks me about it. 40-50 years ago, a black character in any given film was either a slave or a maid. That's because that's all that was available to them. Fast-forward about 20 years, and all you see us playing is pimps, junkies & ****es. Again, that's what was being offered. But now we have an opportunity to change all of that. We have black filmmakers. Black writers, producers & directors. And what do they choose to make? THE SAME THING! The same roles that were being offered to black actors in the 70's by white directors are now being offered by black directors. it's ridiculous. And if we're not getting another rapper starring in another "Hood" movie, we're getting lame comedies filled with ignorant stereotype humor.
How can we ever be taken seriously in Hollywood if this is what we do to ourselves?

Honestly, it is much more a problem caused by the studios than it is by the Black filmmakers. Have you ever thought about how many Black studio executives and Producers there are in Hollywood? No studio heads and perhaps a few Executive Producers. So, it is not necessarly a fault of the filmmakers (there are Black filmmakers out there who want to make better and more positive movies, but they are not given the opportunity from the studios). Unfortunately, the studios seem to only allow a certain type of Black film to get produced.

Now, are the recent Wayons Brothers movies horribly bad. Yes. However, they seem to mostly make horribly bad comedies (so do a lot of WHite filmmakers). The major difference is that for every horrible comedy with an all White cast, there are plenty of other films getting produced by WHite filmmakers.

Your beef really should be with the studios.

 

[That-Guy]

Oh, but you have nothing to say about SINGERS for whom they do the same thing?
j/k.
I feel you, though.

Them, too. If you can act and sing/rap, more power to you, but just because you do one well doesn't automatically qualify you for the other.


Then there are people like David Hasselhoff who have been fairly successful at both despite having no talent.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Honestly, it is much more a problem caused by the studios than it is by the Black filmmakers. Have you ever thought about how many Black studio executives and Producers there are in Hollywood? No studio heads and perhaps a few Executive Producers. So, it is not necessarly a fault of the filmmakers (there are Black filmmakers out there who want to make better and more positive movies, but they are not given the opportunity from the studios). Unfortunately, the studios seem to only allow a certain type of Black film to get produced.

Now, are the recent Wayons Brothers movies horribly bad. Yes. However, they seem to mostly make horribly bad comedies (so do a lot of WHite filmmakers). The major difference is that for every horrible comedy with an all White cast, there are plenty of other films getting produced by WHite filmmakers.

Your beef really should be with the studios.

I am NOT discounting the studios' culpability in this. But who do you blame when a filmmaker has some successes, thereby gaining the freedom to make better choices if he wants, but continues in the same vain?

 

[xwolverine2]

i agree "black" movies are/have been ******ed.......

they need to come to an end......

 

[xwolverine2]

Them, too. If you can act and sing/rap, more power to you, but just because you do one well doesn't automatically qualify you for the other.

those piss me off....

50cent closed his acting caeer with his movie

 

[thealiasman2000]

You know what's weird?

Scary Movie 3 and 4 are "black" movies, yet they are made by a WHITE director!

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

I wanna see a movie where white guys dress up like black women called Black Chicks.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

You know what's weird?

Scary Movie 3 and 4 are "black" movies, yet they are made by a WHITE director!

No they're not.

 

[thealiasman2000]

Yeah, you TRY telling me SM 3 and 4 did not show a stereotypical and racially offensive view of black people...

 

[xwolverine2]

From Hell was made by a black director and that movie sucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Incrediblejeff]

They probably did,but I would'nt count them as black movies since there not done by a Black Director.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I wanna see a movie where white guys dress up like black women called Black Chicks.

See, remarks like that are why I said this was a touchy subject. And I'll bet you anything that had such a movie been made, the same people who flocked to see "White Chicks" would've been appalled. And I mean, in absence of the actual "White Chicks", people would have been outraged.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

See, remarks like that are why I said this was a touchy subject. And I'll bet you anything that had such a movie been made, the same people who flocked to see "White Chicks" would've been appalled. And I mean, in absence of the actual "White Chicks", people would have been outraged.

I know that is why I posted it. I find that disgusting how racism in our society is "acceptable" in some ways.

 

[reggiebar]

I am NOT discounting the studios' culpability in this. But who do you blame when a filmmaker has some successes, thereby gaining the freedom to make better choices if he wants, but continues in the same vain?

The Wayones Brothers are like the Zucker Brothers. Comedy is their thing (it may be bad comedy, but they are not dramatic filmmakers).

It would be different if Spike Lee, John Singleton or Carl Franklin started to make bad comedies in the same vein as White Chicks or that Baby Finster rip-off movie that is out now.

Seriosuly, the studio system is horrible for any filmmaker who isn't White. In fact, all of Hollywood is pretty much White. Walk into any talent agency, movie studio or production house and all you will see are White people.

 

[The BatDude]

40-50 years ago, a black character in any given film was either a slave or a maid. That's because that's all that was available to them. Fast-forward about 20 years, and all you see us playing is pimps, junkies & ****es.

Atleast they got rid of the whole black guy kills himself to save the rest of the group thing.

 

[Chris Wallace]

But Sheldon (Spike) DOES make movies like Bamboozled. John makes movies like Baby Boy.

 

[reggiebar]

But Sheldon (Spike) DOES make movies like Bamboozled. John makes movies like Baby Boy.

I don't think that Baby Boy was intended to by as bad as it was...he just missed the mark on that one.

The guy tried with Poetic Justice, Higher Learning and Rosewood...unfortuately, the way Hollywood works he had to try to get another commercial success in order to make his films again.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

I liked Poetic Justice and Rosewood a lot. Is Higher Learning any good?