This Is Disturbing...

[spideyboy_1111]

I for one know that if YOU committed suicide (assuming that you aren't a serial killer, child molester,rapist, etc ) I would care. Of course I wouldn't cry or lose any sleep but I would certainly care and at least have enough sympathy not to laugh about it.

agrees, and i'd feel the same way... hell id feel the same towards everyone on this board.

 

[The Apocalypse]

I for one know that if YOU committed suicide (assuming that you aren't a serial killer, child molester,rapist, etc ) I would care. Of course I wouldn't cry or lose any sleep but I would certainly care and at least have enough sympathy not to laugh about it.

Well thank you then. t:

Honestly though, I read the story, laughed (sorry I just don't respect weak-minded people), said 'that sucks' and that's all. I feel more sad that people actually wanted him to jump more then the kid jumping himself.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Wow, thats such disgusting behaviour. I can't believe they were encouraging him to end his life.

The people below probably thought he wasn't really going to do it. Sick or dumb? You decide.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Well thank you then. t:

Honestly though, I read the story, laughed (sorry I just don't respect weak-minded people), said 'that sucks' and that's all. I feel more sad that people actually wanted him to jump more then the kid jumping himself.

see what puzzles me is the fact you actually laughed... i don't get that at all.. respecting a suicide or not, there shouldn't be something funny about it at all.. unless like the guy dressed up like a giant peanut and rolled around in peanut butter and then got like squeezed to death and eatin by an elephant.. thats kinda humerous.. but i don't see how this situation is funny at all, unless you really have a morbid sense of humor.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

The people below probably thought he wasn't really going to do it. Sick or dumb? You decide.

well the fact they took pictures of it, kinda shows they didnt care either way, and probably wanted it to happen.

 

[The Apocalypse]

see what puzzles me is the fact you actually laughed... i don't get that at all.. respecting a suicide or not, there shouldn't be something funny about it at all.. unless like the guy dressed up like a giant peanut and rolled around in peanut butter and then got like squeezed to death and eatin by an elephant.. thats kinda humerous.. but i don't see how this situation is funny at all, unless you really have a morbid sense of humor.

It was more of a scoff I guess. Not really a 'HA HA' kind of laugh.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

It was more of a scoff I guess. Not really a 'HA HA' kind of laugh.

well... i guess that's better.

 

[Sentinel X]

Well thank you then. t:

Honestly though, I read the story, laughed (sorry I just don't respect weak-minded people), said 'that sucks' and that's all. I feel more sad that people actually wanted him to jump more then the kid jumping himself.

See but thats the wrong mentality. Suicidal people are still PEOPLE and every person is DIFFERENT. Not everyone is commiting suicide for the same reasons. Someone may commit suicide for something as frivolous as losing an X-box game and someone else may commit suicide because they were brutally molested for years or perhaps their entire family was killed at once in a plane crash....I don't know why exactly he killed himself or what was going on in his head but it isn't fair to just call him weak minded.

And everyone has their breaking point. Even you can become so depressed that you start thinking "what does it matter.".
Depression isn't something people can just snap out of...its a lot more complicated than that. There are environmental AND genetic factors that play a role...not to mention the constant uptake of certain neurotransmitters can definitely cause someone to lose their mind and just become overwhelmed with depression.

see what puzzles me is the fact you actually laughed... i don't get that at all.. respecting a suicide or not, there shouldn't be something funny about it at all.. unless like the guy dressed up like a giant peanut and rolled around in peanut butter and then got like squeezed to death and eatin by an elephant.. thats kinda humerous.. but i don't see how this situation is funny at all, unless you really have a morbid sense of humor.

LMAO!!! I just pictured this in my head

 

[Gilpesh]

umm i dunno, maybe because instead of "seeking attention" it'd also be known as CRYING FOR HELP, a kind voice and a helpful hand was needed, not a cold shoulder, a turn of the back, or a verbal push off the ledge.

Maybe if he was TALKING and ASKING about help he would get it. But acting like getting on top of a building and threatening to jump is the right way to go about it... that's what I have issue with.

You do realize a human life is very precious right?

That's not the issue here.

I mean who knows what this kid could have become, so what if he was "seeking attention" which shouldn't even be looked at it at that way.

Maybe if people learned to go for help instead of "seeking attention" that kid would never have ended up on a ledge.

The point is, he was going to kill himself unless someone helped him.

So he should have found someone and TALKED to them.

You'd seriously turn your back on someone who was about to commit suicide and shrug it off as "there just wanting attention" and walk away?

Where'd did I say that? Nowhere. This ONE GUY, was seeking attention in a cry for help... maybe if someone forced it into his skull that TALKING is better than CRYING for getting help... maybe I might be so offended by that crowd.

Was this a story about how he got up on a building to try and talk to the people below honestly about his problem and they mocked him into jumping? No. This guy went up there threatening to jump off.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Maybe if he was TALKING and ASKING about help he would get it. But acting like getting on top of a building and threatening to jump is the right way to go about it... that's what I have issue with.



That's not the issue here.



Maybe if people learned to go for help instead of "seeking attention" that kid would never have ended up on a ledge.



So he should have found someone and TALKED to them.



Where'd did I say that? Nowhere. This ONE GUY, was seeking attention in a cry for help... maybe if someone forced it into his skull that TALKING is better than CRYING for getting help... maybe I might be so offended by that crowd.

Was this a story about how he got up on a building to try and talk to the people below honestly about his problem and they mocked him into jumping? No. This guy went up there threatening to jump off.

you should be offended by the crowd no matter what dude.

 

[Gilpesh]

I already expect the worst from people and crowds. Not surprised at his treatment especially because of his actions.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

so you think people wanting to commit suicide should be scoffed and laughed at?

 

[Gilpesh]

No. You should stop jumping to baseless conclusions that come from nowhere.


I'm only talking about this one kid... and what he specifically did.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

all he did was climb up somewhere high and jump off after SEVERAL hours.... you act as if jumping off something is an abnormal way to commit suicide... the kid wasn't an attention ****e, you can tell be reading.

 

[CashforStash]

I'm always saying we have a sad future ahead of us.

 

[psychocheeseman]

Well thank you then. t:

Honestly though, I read the story, laughed (sorry I just don't respect weak-minded people), said 'that sucks' and that's all. I feel more sad that people actually wanted him to jump more then the kid jumping himself.

you Sir - are a sociopath. Your lack of empathy is disturbing, although not all that suprising in a world were selfish individualism is seen as the norm and compassion and understanding are seen as weak. You laughed at the fact that another human being was so traumatised they felt it necessary to end their own lives. I too feel sorry for those in the crowd who lacked compassion to an even greater extent than you - but they at least have a chance to live on and examine their actions at a later date. The kid who died can't.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

several groups of youths who ran from behind the cordon and looked like they were taking pictures with their mobile phones.

WTF

 

[bullets]

No one can really say it was a cry for attention because the kid actually carried through with jumping off the roof. It may have been his intention to really kill himself and perhaps there was no way he was ever going to be talked down .
I just think that we should not brush these people to the sides beacuse there was apathy involved in this situation . The fact that people were taking pictures in the cell phone may be disturbing but it is actually becoming a common thing . This wasn't an event or some kind of entertainment but it was treated as such in some regards and it proves how much we have been desensitized.

 

[The Apocalypse]

you Sir - are a sociopath. Your lack of empathy is disturbing, although not all that suprising in a world were selfish individualism is seen as the norm and compassion and understanding are seen as weak. You laughed at the fact that another human being was so traumatised they felt it necessary to end their own lives. I too feel sorry for those in the crowd who lacked compassion to an even greater extent than you - but they at least have a chance to live on and examine their actions at a later date. The kid who died can't.

Only for those who kill themselves.

Also, damn right I am selfish when it comes to people that I don't know who decide to jump off a building. Actually not being selfish and showing compassion seems like the norm. I don't know where you're getting the opposite from. Guess we both view the world differently. Who is right? I doubt anyone can answer that.

 

[Yerzrinot]

I'm always saying we have a sad future ahead of us.

Oh please. People have acted liked *******s since the dawn of humanity. Or did you not stay awake during history class? People's behaviors aren't changing and they never will.

 

[LondonGirl]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-sick-ghouls-jeered-teenager-leapt-death.html

Yeah this was horrible. How can people be so cruel? Instead of talking him out of it they cheer him on.
I'm just baffled....

 

[LondonGirl]

you Sir - are a sociopath. Your lack of empathy is disturbing, although not all that suprising in a world were selfish individualism is seen as the norm and compassion and understanding are seen as weak. You laughed at the fact that another human being was so traumatised they felt it necessary to end their own lives. I too feel sorry for those in the crowd who lacked compassion to an even greater extent than you - but they at least have a chance to live on and examine their actions at a later date. The kid who died can't.

I agree.

 

[JayCaz]

It makes me feel really old that a 27 year old lad can be ashamed of "the youth of today". In alot of deprived areas kids are having kids, dragging them up, and talking to and treating them like a piece of s**t, totally de-sensitising them. When I was 16, if we kicked a footbal at someone's window we ran away, even if there was 10 of us, nowadays you see gangs of kids with no fear of retribution whatsoever, who will kick the living s**t out of you without thinking twice. It's these type of kids who would goad someone into jumping from a building.

Such a terrible story to read, but didn't surprise me one bit.

 

[Majic Walrus]

It makes me feel really old that a 27 year old lad can be ashamed of "the youth of today". In alot of deprived areas kids are having kids, dragging them up, and talking to and treating them like a piece of s**t, totally de-sensitising them. When I was 16, if we kicked a footbal at someone's window we ran away, even if there was 10 of us, nowadays you see gangs of kids with no fear of retribution whatsoever, who will kick the living s**t out of you without thinking twice. It's these type of kids who would goad someone into jumping from a building.

Such a terrible story to read, but didn't surprise me one bit.

I feel the same way, but it's true. When I was a growing up my friends and I did stupid things but it was stupid things much more akin to Leave it to Beaver and much farther away from Gangsta Thug Life (that was not a racist comment because **** you.) Of course I think alot of what we see is simply the media sensationalizing the issues, but I do think that kid's as a whole are being raised differently then the kids that are now in their late twenties and early thirties and on were raised.

I wouldn't blame one thing in particular but if I had to I would definitely attribute alot of today's youth's behavior on a simple lack of fear.

It may seem really rude, but I think that kids today are not afraid of their parents because too many peace-lovin' child psychologists have told us not to spank our children.

My wife and I recently had our first child, and were invited to attend "parenting classes" these parenting class were little more than 3 hours of why not to spank your child. I think it's ridiculous that we would abandon a method that seemed to work very well up to this point in time in favor of a method that causes are kids to be bat**** insane.

 

[Sentinel X]

^^I think for some people spanking works. My parents hardly ever spanked me, I can count on my fingers how many time I did....and when they did it was because I did something REALLY bad and totally deserved it.

But I think one of the biggest reasons why youth is becoming viscious is because of: violent Tv and Videogames.
Yes, say what you want but these have definitely have had an effect. Children at the age of 12 play grand theft auto, shooting people for sport. Or they'll watch violent films were people are slaughtered to death....I am not blaming the filming industry or video games for this, they can't control all those children however videogames and films do play a role.

Just think about it...way back in the 60s Hitchcock's Psycho was the goriest thing out in theaters (he even made the film black and white because he knew it'd be too gory for audiences)...if someone said today that Psycho is one of the goriest films they'd ever seen, they'd probably get laughed at.
The newer generations are so used to violence and gore that I can't say I'm too surprised a lot of them take the deaths of other indivduals so casually.