The Amazing Spider-Man This movie NEEDS the real spider-man

[The Slang]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNvJy0zoXOY

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The man in this movie, Damien Walters, is better than any stunt man from the raimi trilogy. He's better than the cgi spider-man from the raimi trilogy. He practices a french discipline called 'parkour'. And the fact that there was NONE of it featured in the raimi trilogy is a disgrace. The property should not be in the hands of a team so out of touch with modern culture.

 

[SpeterMan3]

 

[©KAW]

They would never hire this guy, he's too damn great. Sony will stick to their one fat ass stuntman and a whole bunch of sloppy and amateurish crap worthy CGI by Sony Imageworks.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Hire him!

 

[Dragon]

Well, there are alot of guys out there that do that stuff, so this guy in particular doesn't need to be hired.

But-

I've always believed that the Spidey movies used far too much CGI. I say shoot as much as possible with a stunt team and only after that should they use CG to cover the things really impossible for a human being, like leaps and falls from skyscrapers.

 

[akfj]

The budget is supposed to be smaller for the reboot, well hiring this guy would save them A LOT of money.

 

[Droogoonie789]

That was AMAZING!!! If you got a parkour guy with those kind of skills, I think they could pull it off. That's crazy.

 

[spider-neil]

spidey should be made with a combination of the following

CG
for all the things impossbile for a human to do, webbing swinging

Parkour/gymnastics
for simple running and jumping and negoatation roof tops

wirework
for scaling buildings

revolving sets/tilted stages
for wall crawling inside room

CG should be keep to an absolute minimum, the more real something looks the less likely people will be taken out of the movie.

 

[Marvel Spider]

wirework
for scaling buildings

Whenever I read this part, I think of the horribly done wall crawling in Nicholas Hammond's Spider-Man, in which he barely touched the building.

 

[spider-neil]

Whenever I read this part, I think of the horribly done wall crawling in Nicholas Hammond's Spider-Man, in which he barely touched the building.

that was twenty plus years ago

 

[Marvel Spider]

True, but it still end up looking terrible, as demonstrated in Wolverine where Sabretooth climbs up the side of the building. Very brief, but bad.

There is a chance it could work, though.

 

[spider-neil]

True, but it still end up looking terrible, as demonstrated in Wolverine where Sabretooth climbs up the side of the building. Very brief, but bad.

There is a chance it could work, though.

I'd rather that than cg. bad cg takes you competely out of the movie.

 

[©KAW]

I agree, and Sony Imagworks is the apex of bad CGI.

There's is no need to use CGI for ever single thing that Spider-Man does. Camera tricks with stuntmen/daredevils/contortionists very much like Damien Walters (guy in The Slang's video). You can achieve realistic wall-crawling, jumping scenes, super-human agilty and enhanced acrobatic fight scenes...all using real people with no CGI.

Why is it that we're looking at one stuntman who is better than all the stuntmen in Spider-Man. And this with no CGI or even wireworks. It just shows how uncreative and lazy the film makers are when it comes to Spider-Man. Let's take the easy way out and spend a bunch of money on horrible looking ass CGI.

 

[©KAW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNvJy0zoXOY

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The man in this movie, Damien Walters, is better than any stunt man from the raimi trilogy. He's better than the cgi spider-man from the raimi trilogy. He practices a french discipline called 'parkour'. And the fact that there was NONE of it featured in the raimi trilogy is a disgrace. The property should not be in the hands of a team so out of touch with modern culture.

That scene where he's putting on his clothes while doing some insane acrobatics, just imagine a scene like that in Spider-Man, where Peter is putting his street clothes back on, just before walking calmly out of an alley way. Or talking off his street clothes to swiftly become Spider-Man. That's freakin' creative!

 

[Venom160]

Guy looks like Lex Luthor but he has Spidey's moves. This guy seriously needs to be hired as a consultant or something cause thats how I picture a young spidey (Ult Spidey specifically) moving and fighting.

 

[spider-neil]

remember the sequence when spidey chases down uncle ben's killer in SM1? the sequence starts with him jumping on and climbing the wall, he then climbs up the side of the building and then does a series of running jumps and then swings around a poll to land ledge (or whatever that thing was)

that entire sequence was a DISGRACE of bad cg and not one thing in that whole sequence had to be cg, that could all have been achieved with parkour, gymnastic, wire work, tilted stages.

after that the camera spins around peter as he webs the nearby wall and swings through the city for the very first time and is in hot persuit of the car. this sequence had to ball be cg and it looks EXCELLENT.

this movie is 10 years after the first spidey, stunt techniques/cg/wire work have all come a long way there is no excuse for fake looking spidey

 

[The Slang]

That scene where he's putting on his clothes while doing some insane acrobatics, just imagine a scene like that in Spider-Man, where Peter is putting his street clothes back on, just before walking calmly out of an alley way. Or talking off his street clothes to swiftly become Spider-Man. That's freakin' creative!

Yeah I thought the same thing

 

[Ajendo]

That video annoyed the living hell out of me. I'm really trying to understand the strategic model behind making these spider-man movies because when you have stuff like what the guy was doing in the clip, why on earth were we getting lame cg to substitute what some capable stuntmen can do?

People may dislike me for saying this but I'm glad Raimi's gone because his style for the spidey movies were tragic and simply cannot compete with the new standards set by other comic book movies.

This is SPIDER-MAN. Of all the comic book heroes out there, watching him on screen has to be the most impressive thing one has ever seen. The reality is, by comparison, spider-man makes Damien Walters look like an amateur but the skill Walters has would be more than enough to creatively and successfully bring spidey to life. We NEED to see such skill and agility in this next movie.

Sony! Stop wasting money on crap and start investing in entities that will better your product. It's basic business sense and it's a whole lot cheaper. Why do we need to explain this to you!?

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Give Walters some wires and combine him with CGI shots, and you've got Spider-Man.

 

[FNSpidey]

The man in this movie, Damien Walters, is better than any stunt man from the raimi trilogy. He's better than the cgi spider-man from the raimi trilogy. He practices a french discipline called 'parkour'. And the fact that there was NONE of it featured in the raimi trilogy is a disgrace. The property should not be in the hands of a team so out of touch with modern culture.

Hell yeah! I always said Spidey needed to be more fluid and acrobatic in his moves. Not just in money shots but in everything he does. Even Daredevil moved more like Spider-man than Spidey himself. I loved the films, but that's something I always thought needed to be improved and these guys can offer awesome stuntwork without hurting the budget.

 

[bunk]

This could actually apply to many superheroes. It would be cool if they incorporated some of though, especially for closer shots and quick cuts.

 

[weezerspider]

Rorschach's two climbing scenes in Watchmen had zero CGI and they looked fine. This guy is the real life Spiderman. I say hire him or a stuntman/parkour guy like him. The less CGI, the better.

 

[Dragon]

People may dislike me for saying this but I'm glad Raimi's gone because his style for the spidey movies were tragic and simply cannot compete with the new standards set by other comic book movies.

And what standards are those?

 

[Ajendo]

Go watch the ironman movies, go watch TDK. Embracing the source material full throttle and just going with it without compomising the character and his unierse with crappy dialogue, an overall boring execution of storytelling and adding a whole bunch of crap that have no business being in the moies and wooden acting with a sinful lack of any charisma what so ever from the lead character and don't get me started with the use of cg.

 

[Tojo]

Go watch the ironman movies, go watch TDK. Embracing the source material full throttle and just going with it without compomising the character and his unierse with crappy dialogue, an overall boring execution of storytelling and adding a whole bunch of crap that have no business being in the moies and wooden acting with a sinful lack of any charisma what so ever from the lead character and don't get me started with the use of cg.

Iron man 2 looked great, credible even, but i have almost never been so bored with a film and it's performances in my lifetime. It was deathly.


Anyhow, i'm not a Spider-man fan, but this is the way to go! I'd definatley be up for seeing the film if they used people who can do this stuff.

Watching that video, i cam to the conclusions that you may not even have to accentuate alot of the movements spidey performs. Give this dude some stuff to run up, and a spring or two, and there you go! Of course Spidey can do more than this stuff, but i honestly think a lower key range of movement may be more beneficial. I was wowed by this video, and probably would be if Spidey did the same, plus a bit more.

If you are creative you can almost use no CGI. Even close up swinging etc can be done with this dude and wires. I'd appreciate a more low key spidey film, especially with the first one. It'd really suck people in.

I remember thinking with Spider-man 3 i just lost interest in the action because it was too out there. Of course he's supposed to be a super-human athlete, but you can take it too far, he's not superman. They have to use this guy, or someone similar