This movie once again proves why the BatFamily is so vital

Discussion in 'The Dark Knight Rises' started by Iron_Burger, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. Iron_Burger Registered

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    Batman had alfred, lucious, rachel, and a disasterious man-crush on Harvey in the first two films as his allies. And except for his tech guy he lost everybody as a contact from those films here.

    He needs Catwoman, Robin, Batgirl, and any other ally he can get to keep him stable and happy, especially as an aging Bruce is essentially the surviving heir of the League of Shadows, and those he trains are the next generation of dark knights.
     
  2. Boom I got nothin'

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    Well, Alfred should never have left. Period.

    Nevermind the fact that it feels like they wrote the character out of the film early on to make way for unnecessary side characters like Blake, but in no universe do I accept Alfred walking away.
     
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    It's happened in the comics and I thought it was well handled and dramatic for the story to be about reuniting and growing the BatFamily. Alfred loves Bruce so much he absolutely won't be an enabler anymore and watch him destroy himself like he was on the path to doing. That is totally in character.

    I'm sorry but Blake isn't important to you lol. He's ***** for godsakes. He is a very important "side" character indeed.
     
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    Alfred can't walk away in the comics. But in the movie verse, Alfred is going to have a threshold. Bruce just wouldn't listen to what Alfred was saying anymore and need to get his ass beat to get it.
     
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    Yeah. it's like Bruce has been drug clean for 8 years but hasn't done anything with his life and suddenly says he has to relapse again even when it is destroying his body and mind. That is honeslty the situation, Bale's Bruce Wayne is as psycho as Keaton's deep down.
     
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    Michael Keaton's Batman was a lot more stable than Christian Bale's in this movie. At no point was Keaton's Bruce Wayne ever a hermit. He was detached from society. But that's only because his only focus was being Batman.
     
  7. Brain Damage Everything Under the Sun

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    Bingo.
    I hope none of you have ever had to deal with a friend who's had drug issues, but sometimes distancing yourself from them is the best way to get them to realize the pain they bring upon both you and themselves.

    That's what Alfred does, and I really loved that part of the movie. Everything Caine did in this film was great, short of his Bane exposition speech.
     
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    Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne no longer existed in the real sense. He was Batman 24/7. Batman wasn't just a symbol, but his entire world. Wayne, meanwhile, was his reluctant mask/altar-ego. I'd say that's pretty ****ed up.
     

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