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Iron Man 2 anybody?
I feel the need to get a response to this.
I now have this great image. I have no idea what fangz looks like, or whether fangz is a male or female. But I have this great image of a old school vampire, cape and all, in the theater with a notepad and glasses, leaning forward, paying close attention.
Holy **** you people love to make **** up and then pass it off as fact.
I feel the need to get a response to this.
I now have this great image. I have no idea what fangz looks like, or whether fangz is a male or female. But I have this great image of a old school vampire, cape and all, in the theater with a notepad and glasses, leaning forward, paying close attention.
How dare you pay attention.haha, not far from fact. whatever else can be said, yeah, i pay attention.
haha.
What are you arguing here, that they are successful? That people will work with studios even if it isn't the most conducive to the creative process? This isn't a new thing.
No one is painting them as Big Bad Marvel, just that they do it and to deny it would be false. I am not saying this is the worst thing ever, hell that it is even a bad thing, but they interfere and TDW is proof. IM2 is proof. TIH is proof.
So please don't act like it doesn't happen.
And yet they have arguably produced the 4 of the 5 best superhero flicks we have seen all over the last 8 years.
Holy **** you people love to make **** up and then pass it off as fact.
How dare you pay attention.
Holy **** you people love to make **** up and then pass it off as fact.
Teekay said:Well be careful man Some people are always armed and ready to take silly and cheap shots at DC if they can't come up with a good enough argument.
I personally think WB should have just kept doing what they were doing. But whatever happens, I think they will get it right in the end, at least in terms of Superman and Batman. Even if it is extremely painful.Four of the best five? Maybe you and I can take that to PM, because I can't name more than two.
That's beside the point, which was that DC is having a hard time putting together a DCU because they don't have a strong guiding hand. You didn't really address that point, so I assume you agree.
Gunn's work wasn't interfered with. That is why I don't see a need to defend him. If this happens to Gunn and he says he doesn't like it, I'd defend him over it.What I don't like is Taylor's treatment of Gunn in the situation. It has nothing to do with my opinion of Marvel. For all your talk of worrying over how director's are treated, I'm surprised that you think it's okay for one director to crap all over another.
I'm not some blind Marvel fanboy, btw, despite how you try to paint me. I call them out on things I don't like and praise them when I think they deserve it. I don't think, in this situation (the mid-credits scene), that they've done anything remotely evil. It's exactly according to the framework they established before Taylor agreed to come on.
Hypocrite much? lol I've seen you take jabs at DC on these boards quite frequently, actually
Hypocrite much? lol I've seen you take jabs at DC on these boards quite frequently, actually
I have and that's in the past, do you see me doing it anymore recently?
I personally think WB should have just kept doing what they were doing. But whatever happens, I think they will get it right in the end, at least in terms of Superman and Batman. Even if it is extremely painful.
Gunn's work wasn't interfered with. That is why I don't see a need to defend him. If this happens to Gunn and he says he doesn't like it, I'd defend him over it.
And you are wrong. It is not the same framework. It is in fact very different. 2 credit sequences, with the mid-credit sequence being by another director.
I'm not wrong. It is the same framework. I'm not arguing one scene versus two. I'm arguing that the tag scene to set up the next film in line is usually done by another director. That is a fact. What Taylor said about Gunn's work was kind of a jerk thing to do. If you don't agree, that's fine.
Personally, I don't like the way DC was headed before MoS, mostly because I prefer a connected universe when it comes to superhero stories. Pretending like a single hero exists by himself in a world isn't as interesting to me when it comes to DC/Marvel heroes. I still liked a couple of the Nolan movies, but it would've been nice if they could have been linked to a greater universe.
IM- Tag scene setup, same director.I'm not wrong. It is the same framework. I'm not arguing one scene versus two. I'm arguing that the tag scene to set up the next film in line is usually done by another director. That is a fact. What Taylor said about Gunn's work was kind of a jerk thing to do. If you don't agree, that's fine.
I just want great films. If you deliver me a great film, that is all I care about. For me, only Nolan and Bird have done that in the superhero genre.Personally, I don't like the way DC was headed before MoS, mostly because I prefer a connected universe when it comes to superhero stories. Pretending like a single hero exists by himself in a world isn't as interesting to me when it comes to DC/Marvel heroes. I still liked a couple of the Nolan movies, but it would've been nice if they could have been linked to a greater universe.
Well yes, from time to time I have..I think recently in the gotg boards. But secondly, I didn't say anything about recently, nor do I find anything WRONG with taking jabs at DC, hell, I'll defend you if you're getting crap for taking jabs, but you gotta own it, can't share all POVs. I just think your comment saying that people are waiting to cheapshot DC, is hypocritical, since I've seen you taking jabs at DC before, at one point, quite frequently.
Forgive me for jumping in the middle here, but isn't this whole connected universe thing still pretty new? Like, 2008 on? That's still pretty new, I mean, before the MCU, we've had marvel films in the past, none of which linked and they were still enjoyable, not anymore than DC films. I wouldn't exactly say DC not having a connected universe is a good reason for not liking them as much, more so as an excuse to mask a bias/opinion so that it doesn't start a flame war. Which leads me to think you may have a stronger opinion about DC than you are showing, please excuse the psychoanalysis
IM- Tag scene setup, same director.
TIH- Tag scene setup, not sure about director.
IM2- Tag scene setup, different director.
Thor- Tag scene setup, different director.
TFA- No tag scene, trailer.
Avengers- Two scenes (one setup), same director.
IM3- Tag scene, same director.
Okay...
I just want great films. If you deliver me a great film, that is all I care about. For me, only Nolan and Bird have done that in the superhero genre.
I know the original intention and that Joss filmed it, but that isn't what they actually ended up doing.Fun Fact:
In Captain America: The First Avenger, the last scene of Cap in present day was shot by Joss and was originally the post credits scene. The children in the streets was to be the last scene before the credits. However, they weren't satisfied with that so they put the credits scene on the end and put a trailer for avengers after the credits.