Thor 2: Rotten Tomato Watch

Discussion in 'Thor: The Dark World' started by MessiahDecoy123, Oct 22, 2013.

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Where will Thor 2's RT rating end up?

  1. 90-100%

  2. 80-89%

  3. 70-79%

  4. 60-69%

  5. 50-59%

  6. 40-49%

  7. 30-39%

  8. 20-29%

  9. 10-19%

  10. 0-9%

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  1. ares834

    ares834 Vader's Fist

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    Perhaps. I remember the Dark Elves and Odin talking about them and the Aether but I honestly don't remember seeing Jane pulled into the portal.

    Regardless, it still is problematic in the fact that the portals were created by the convergence not the Aether and the chances that a portal would just so happen to open up in the cavern the Aether was hidden in of all the places in the nine realms stills strains credibility. Unless, we are to believe it can open up portals and the like. It is less of a stretch though.

    Sure the ring wanted to be found. But it still requires Bilbo to stumble into the cave.
     
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  2. ctsketch

    ctsketch Well-Known Member

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    the weekend...which isn't over by the way, is beating expectations...how is that unimpressive?
     
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  3. ares834

    ares834 Vader's Fist

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    Certain posters were dead set on it's OW breaking 100m. But yeah, an 86m OW is great by almost any standards.
     
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  4. Octoberist

    Octoberist point blank

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    86 million is amazing.
     
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  5. Steamteck

    Steamteck Well-Known Member

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    I have to agree completely take each film on its own merits and throw away the preconceived notion. However with existing characters obviously this isn't completely possible but the we should be a little more flexible about the tone compared to other incarnations and compared to other films.
     
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  6. JB-the-Hunter

    JB-the-Hunter Booty hunter

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    Oh lord...
     
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  7. Saturius

    Saturius Well-Known Member

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    Uh, what was wrong with Thor's marketing? There were TONS of Tv spots and sneak peaks across a lot of stations and TV shows. The only weird marketing choice that I saw was the not releasing the toys till after the movie premiered. There was also no fast food/thrift store marketing this time (i.e. cups and stuff) but it appears Disney doesn't do that stuff anymore anyway.
     
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  8. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan SHHFFL 2014 Champion

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    I'd say to this point, Thor's marketing isn't as good as their Cap 2 marketing or their IM3 marketing. That said, I still think it was marketed fairly well. It's performing well and we're going to get a Thor 3. I am happy with that.
     
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  9. DarthSkywalker

    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    Feels like they really want Cap to gear us up for AoU. It is basically the IM2 of this Phase in that regard.
     
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  10. regnak

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    That may be but it looks awesome! :woot:
     
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  11. ctsketch

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    Do Sunday numbers not count?
     
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  12. DarthSkywalker

    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

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    They are factored in. By Sunday they more or less no what it is going to make. How the box office works over the weekend once you get initial numbers has been fine tuned for years. They are rarely off by more then a few million once Fridays numbers come in.
     
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  13. Ragnaroknroll

    Ragnaroknroll Well-Known Member

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    As a long time Thor fan I never dreamed I'd see the day that I'd get three straight years of him on the big screen in three separate big budget films. The film's opening weekend has exceeded expectations. Especially considering this is a November release. But more importantly it is a great flick. Would I have liked more Warriors Three, Malekith, Kurse etc.? Hell yes. But what we got was awesome and I'll take what I can get. I'm actually amazed that the movie felt as epic as it did for such a short run time.

    I agree with BigThor that Marvel definitely is giving preferential treatment to Iron Man which irks me as well but they are also a business and RDJ is a big key to their success. It is what it is.

    But the amount of effort that clearly went into this film indicates that they do care about Thor's success. It is by far the best of the MCU films for spectacle that's for sure. Well worth the price of admission. Saw it again in IMAX and it was fantastic!
     
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  14. The_Manhunter

    The_Manhunter DCEU & MCU Fan

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    THIS! :exp:
     
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  15. psylockolussus

    psylockolussus Well-Known Mutant

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    Actually in my country, there's a fast food marketing Thor: the Dark World, they even give out Thor's Hammer USB.
     
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  16. Smashlilman

    Smashlilman Ouch!!!!

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    There are a lot of people that wanted Thor:TDW to be over hyped like Ironman 3.
     
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  17. Ezio Auditore

    Ezio Auditore Lord of Firenze

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    Couldn't agree more. I enjoyed the movie very much.
    Also, i've lost faith in RT after i saw that a lot of my fav movies where criminally low on their ranking:

    Gladiator : 76%. One of my 3 fav movies ( the other ones being Godfather and Lion King - don't judge me :) ) that should have 100% (and i'm being objective lol)

    Kingdom of Heaven: 39%!!!!!!

    Robin Hood: 43%!

    Troy: 54%

    Men of Honor: 41% (truly, this movie should be a 100%)


    Okay i stop now, i think i've made my point haha

    Ps: yes -- i love Ridley Scott movies
    Ps2: yes, my english is terrible, sorry for that
     
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  18. Senator Pleasury

    Senator Pleasury Well-Known Member

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    Have fans always been this worried about RT? I noticed this in MOS forums, I didn't know it was so upsetting to people.
     
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  19. psylockolussus

    psylockolussus Well-Known Mutant

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    Because for some people the RT rating reflects on the quality of the movie.
     
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  20. DA_Champion

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    It wasn't dumb because it made me laugh -- it was dumb because it tried to make me laugh and just irritated me at the horrible failure.

    For many of us, underwear jokes were not funny in Spawn, they were not funny in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, and they were not funny in Thor: The Dark World. Most of the jokes were flat out dumb... e.g. "Can I have my shoe back?" There were a few jokes that worked, but they were outweighed by the ones that didn't.

    The opening sequence of the volcanic wasteland world was weak. It didn't immerse me, which an opening sequence should be able to. They also lacked imagination in creating an alien world.

    Aside from that, the whole plot is based on a red mist that reminds me of Galactus and Parallax, Malekite is a weak villain, Jane/Selvig controlling the portals at the end doesn't make sense, the politics os Asgard is potentially interesting but completely brushed over, and there is the plot hole of a defeated Malekite laying waste to the capital of Asgard within a few moments of waking up from a 5,000 year slumber.

    The second after the credits sequence, where Thor meets Jane back on Earth, should have been before the credits. The romantic comedy is one of the few aspects of this movie that worked well, and they put it as the second after the credits scene, which to me shows they didn't get their own movie.
     
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  21. DA_Champion

    DA_Champion Well-Known Member

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    It's a pretty good metric. I'd be more interested in reading analyses of where jt succeeds more or fails more than "RT is crap !" or "RT is great !".

    In all seriousness, who can legitimately argue that the following ranking system has no value?:

    Dark Knight, 94%, 288 reviews
    Spider Man 2, 94%, 248 reviews
    Iron Man, 93%, 243 reviews
    The Avengers, 92%, 301 reviews
    Spider Man, 89%, 224 reviews
    Dark Knight Rises, 88%, 304 reviews
    X Men: First Class, 87%, 243 reviews
    X Men 2, 87%, 224 reviews
    Hellboy 2, 87%, 209 reviews
    Batman Begins, 85%, 265 reviews
    X Men, 82%, 243 reviews
    Hellboy, 81%, 196 reviews
    Captain America, 79%, 220 reviews
    Sin City, 78%, 242 reviews
    Iron Man 3, 78%, 270 reviews
    Kick-Ass, 77%, 243 reviews
    Thor, 77%, 261 reviews
    Superman Returns, 75%, 229
    V for Vendetta, 73%, 238 reviews
    Iron Man 2, 73%, 275 reviews
    The Amazing Spider Man, 73%, 284 reviews
    The Wolverine, 68%, 191 reviews
    The Incredible Hulk, 67%, 218 reviews
    Thor 2: The Dark World, 66%, 186 reviews
    Watchmen, 64%, 289 reviews
    Spider Man 3, 63%, 243 reviews
    The Hulk, 62%, 229 reviews
    300, 60%, 226 reviews
    Blade 2, 59%, 136 reviews
    X Men 3, 57%, 229 reviews
    Man of Steel, 56%, 271 reviews
    Blade, 55%, 84 reviews
    Constantine, 46%, 217 reviews
    Daredevil, 45%, 214 reviews
    X Men Origins: The Wolverine, 38%, 222
    Fantastic Four: Rise of the Slver Surfer, 37%, 166 reviews
    Kick Ass 2, 30%, 149 reviews
    The Punisher, 29%, 167 reviews
    Punisher: War Zone, 27%, 101 reviews
    Fantastic Four, 27%, 203 reviews
    Green Lantern, 26%, 227 reviews
    Ghost Rider: 26%, 135 reviews
    Blade 3, 26%, 164 reviews
    Sucker Punch, 23%, 202 reviews
    Ghost Rider 2, 17%, 112 reviews
    Jonah Hex, 12%, 145 reviews
    Elektra, 10%, 150 reviews
    Catwoman, 9%, 180 reviews
     
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  22. Ragnaroknroll

    Ragnaroknroll Well-Known Member

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    No - It's not a good metric. It's a curiosity.

    Basically Rotten Tomatoes works like this: When you agree with it, the score is right. When you don't agree with it, the score is wrong. Very simple.

    Why are people so insecure that they need a score to validate their own opinions?

    The only time I use RT is when I'm waffling on seeing a film or not and the score is really bad or the score is really good. After that it's a crap shoot.
     
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  23. MessiahDecoy123

    MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    Yeah, it would be nearly impossible to reflect every opinion with full accuracy but I think this reasonably reflects the opinions of most people.

    I agree with RT around 75% of the time. So I will pay attention to their scores if I'm on the fence about watching a movie.
     
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  24. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan SHHFFL 2014 Champion

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    Rotten tomatoes is a VERY flawed metric because it doesn't take into account degrees of enjoyment. Someone can technically make a film that scores a 90%, but that 90% of critics thought it was a good not great movie. But, no one reads the reviews to look into that.

    I always laugh whenever people bring RT scores into a debate on the merits of a film. Films are enjoyed on a person by person basis. You can't measure how much YOU enjoy something based on a percentage of critics or people that can skew the results (see IMDBs great Godfather vs The Dark Knight war in 2008). It's not a perfect metric, yet people think it is.
     
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  25. ctsketch

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    Yes, I enjoyed the movie. It was not perfect but I enjoyed it. RT will not change how I feel about it
     
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