Thor's box office competition - Part 1

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Honestly I can't. The dragging the safe thing is more rediculous than Indy surviving a nuclear blast from inside a refrigerator. I'm not saying audiences aren't enjoying it. I just can't see why. It's by far one of the top 5 dumbest movies I've ever had the misery of sitting through.

Oh well. lol
 
Honestly I can't. The dragging the safe thing is more rediculous than Indy surviving a nuclear blast from inside a refrigerator. I'm not saying audiences aren't enjoying it. I just can't see why. It's by far one of the top 5 dumbest movies I've ever had the misery of sitting through.

If you paid money to see it then you contributed to the problem you decry though. If there's one franchise you know what to expect from by now, it's Fast and Furious.
 
Not out of the question but unlikely. I'm pitching my tent between 170 and 180
I've calculated what it's drops could be from here on out and you are correct, it's pretty damn unlikely. 190mil tops, unless it recovers more than I'm thinking that it will.
 
Honestly I can't. The dragging the safe thing is more rediculous than Indy surviving a nuclear blast from inside a refrigerator. I'm not saying audiences aren't enjoying it. I just can't see why. It's by far one of the top 5 dumbest movies I've ever had the misery of sitting through.

That is what makes an old style action movie. Lots of ridiculous things that force you to suspend far more disbelief than you thought you could muster. The movie was filled with all kinds of stupid things, including the opening bridge jump. Fast Five is the kind of movie where I stop thinking, shut my mind off and simply watch faces get punched and objects explode. Perhaps that is why I do not mind it as much. I am a graduate student. My entire academic career is based around critical thinking. Even things that the average person consider to be deep, come off as silly in my view. I have begun to practice the art of not analyzing most things. It gives me far greater pleasure. I keep my expectations low or non-existent for films like Fast Five. In the end, I don't feel robbed of my time and energy.
 
I didn't think Fast Five was much dumber than Thor but thats just me. I actually couldn't stop rolling my eyes during Thor.

Fast Five isn't for everyone and neither is Thor for that matter. Railing against every movie that outgrosses Thor is going to leave one railing against alot of films this year.
 
Fast Five should outgross Thor, it has a built in fanbase and it's the best of the series, it doesn't get any cool points for outgrossing a fairly unknown property.

Oh and Thor's gonna be in the top 10 highest grossing films of 2011 so no worries there.
 
The top 10 movies of last year all made $200M so I doubt it.
 
I didn't think Fast Five was much dumber than Thor but thats just me. I actually couldn't stop rolling my eyes during Thor.

Fast Five isn't for everyone and neither is Thor for that matter. Railing against every movie that outgrosses Thor is going to leave one railing against alot of films this year.

Haven't seen Fast Five, nor I plan to, but I see that movies like that or Thor - among many other superhero movies - give their audience exactly what they want. In that sense complaining about FF's trite clichés and enjoying Thor's sounds weird. Yes, FF gives us some unconvincing deeds and awful action sentences and Thor gives us the usual bad romantic plot and love interest.
 
Fast Five should outgross Thor, it has a built in fanbase and it's the best of the series, it doesn't get any cool points for outgrossing a fairly unknown property.

Oh and Thor's gonna be in the top 10 highest grossing films of 2011 so no worries there.
Did I expect Fast Five to outgross Thor? yeah because Thor didn't have a killer premise and the marketing wasn't overwhelmingly amazing but all of the hype regarding Thor kicking off the summer was pretty much pointless judging the final results. Thats my point, it's doing fine (and I've actually defended it's performance) but it wasn't a juggernut like the entertainment media was building it up to be.
 
Thor's greatest problem was that it allowed too much of its momentum to drop off. The start of the film was fantastic. Epic clashes, anger, sarcasm: the beginning of the film was fine. Things were even headed in the right direction with Thor on Earth trying to reclaim his godhood. Where things fell short was when too much time was spent with him wandering around trying to find Mjolnir. There needed to be more heroics. The final clash also did not do much to help things out. Destroyer was taken out too quickly, which would have been fine if Thor had a serious clash with Loki, but that was also finished far too quickly. Marvel seems to be very unskilled at crafting a proper final act, as both Iron Man films suffered from the same problem.

Thor was an enjoyable film overall, but I feel that word of mouth would have been even stronger had the film included a proper final battle. Ultimately, for a character that was never as mainstream as Spider-Man or the X-Men, Thor has done remarkably well. It has turned a profit and is a genuine summer blockbuster. It just wasn't the juggernaut we thought it would be.
 
Honestly, I think Thor's lucky to have made as much money as it did. I mean, it's a good movie, but I have yet to talk to anyone who thought Thor LOOKED good based on those trailers. Everyone I saw it with, I had to convince to see it based on the reviews. They otherwise had zero interest. Fast Five's trailers were fairly effective in comparison - it looked like at least one of the better installments of that franchise from the get-go.

There's no reason to hold it against Fast Five that Thor isn't a mega-blockbuster: it was never going to be. Regardless, it's done very well for itself, so let's just be happy about that, rather than needlessly bashing the first (and definitely not the last) movie to out-gross it this summer.
 
It will be over 150M by Friday and very close to 250M OS if not slightly over.
 
That is what makes an old style action movie. Lots of ridiculous things that force you to suspend far more disbelief than you thought you could muster. The movie was filled with all kinds of stupid things, including the opening bridge jump. Fast Five is the kind of movie where I stop thinking, shut my mind off and simply watch faces get punched and objects explode. Perhaps that is why I do not mind it as much. I am a graduate student. My entire academic career is based around critical thinking. Even things that the average person consider to be deep, come off as silly in my view. I have begun to practice the art of not analyzing most things. It gives me far greater pleasure. I keep my expectations low or non-existent for films like Fast Five. In the end, I don't feel robbed of my time and energy.


I've no problem with suspending disbelief, but when you go over the top like that, it's just plain rediculous. Like I said, it's pretty much the equivalent of Indiana Jones surviving a nuclear blast in a refrigerator.

And someone saying you know what to expect out of this franchise, yes there have been over the top stunts and that sort of rediculous fair, but the safe thing was everysingle FF rediculous stunt hopped up on steroids times 10,000.

Honestly to people that say it's a "good" movie, I question their judgement on movies. Either that or our expectations have dropped to such lows that as long as the movie makes money, we'll call it good.
 
Honestly, I think Thor's lucky to have made as much money as it did. I mean, it's a good movie, but I have yet to talk to anyone who thought Thor LOOKED good based on those trailers. Everyone I saw it with, I had to convince to see it based on the reviews. They otherwise had zero interest. Fast Five's trailers were fairly effective in comparison - it looked like at least one of the better installments of that franchise from the get-go.

There's no reason to hold it against Fast Five that Thor isn't a mega-blockbuster: it was never going to be. Regardless, it's done very well for itself, so let's just be happy about that, rather than needlessly bashing the first (and definitely not the last) movie to out-gross it this summer.

Sorry I'm not going to agree with you there. The movie did gangbusters over seas. The US box office is down across the board, and in a normal year this makes over 200 million easily. It's rare for a film to make more overseas than here, so the fact that the three biggest summer films so far, have done it, shows you the poor state of the U.S. cinema.
 
Sorry I'm not going to agree with you there. The movie did gangbusters over seas. The US box office is down across the board, and in a normal year this makes over 200 million easily. It's rare for a film to make more overseas than here, so the fact that the three biggest summer films so far, have done it, shows you the poor state of the U.S. cinema.
When did I say it DIDN'T do well? In fact, I said the exact opposite, in addressing those bashing Fast Five because it made more. My point was, both movies did well, and we should be just be happy about that.

Because regarding Fast Five: For a franchise that has been continuously successful no matter what kind of crap they churn out, the fact that the filmmakers finally started putting some actual effort in, on their FIFTH installment (a point at which most franchises would be burning out or phoning it in), and are now seeing a kind of success they hadn't seen before as a reward for their efforts? That's something to be applauded if you ask me, and not bashed just because you didn't like it as much as Thor.
 
That's a terrible thing, as far as I'm concerned. I'm not comfortable living in a world where the Fast & the Furious franchise is actually good. :csad:
 
When did I say it DIDN'T do well? In fact, I said the exact opposite, in addressing those bashing Fast Five because it made more. My point was, both movies did well, and we should be just be happy about that.

Because regarding Fast Five: For a franchise that has been continuously successful no matter what kind of crap they churn out, the fact that the filmmakers finally started putting some actual effort in, on their FIFTH installment (a point at which most franchises would be burning out or phoning it in), and are now seeing a kind of success they hadn't seen before as a reward for their efforts? That's something to be applauded if you ask me, and not bashed just because you didn't like it as much as Thor.

Didn't say you said it didn't do well. I disagree that advertising is what kept it from doing better domestically.

What I'm saying is the U.S. box office has been crap, really going back to the end of last year. For whatever reason, people aren't going to the movies like they used to. I'm saying if this movie were released in 2009 it would have made 250M.

Wheather it's the economy or high ticket prices, or whatever, people aren't going to the movies. Attendance is way down from this time last year.
 
When did I say it DIDN'T do well? In fact, I said the exact opposite, in addressing those bashing Fast Five because it made more. My point was, both movies did well, and we should be just be happy about that.

Because regarding Fast Five: For a franchise that has been continuously successful no matter what kind of crap they churn out, the fact that the filmmakers finally started putting some actual effort in, on their FIFTH installment (a point at which most franchises would be burning out or phoning it in), and are now seeing a kind of success they hadn't seen before as a reward for their efforts? That's something to be applauded if you ask me, and not bashed just because you didn't like it as much as Thor.

I agree. I enjoyed Thor more than Fast Five but only because I'm a superhero guy.

Fast Five I thought was a pretty good movie, something I didn't have to say years ago. I hate to say it and I usually don't, but I think it's bitter fanboy rage going on here more than anything.
 
Wheather it's the economy or high ticket prices, or whatever, people aren't going to the movies. Attendance is way down from this time last year.

It's high ticket prices and the growing refusal of the audiences to see a 3D movie.
 
No word on international gross for Monday, but 500 is starting to look damn near impossible. I'd say domestically this movie isn't making more than 170. Foreign, 280 seems likely.
 
Knew it wouldn't make it to 200 domestic or 500 worldwide. People who actually thought that had unrealistic optimism.
 
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