Thanks Hulk for posting that pic..... I'm a little curious to know what the utility belt is for though.
I think they would have to change his mask for live action but if they don't I think it would be a good way for Spidey to make some wise cracks.
K of Ks, it would be a great opportunity for SM to deliver some nice quips; but unfortunately, this version of SM does not really deliver. This is one of the missed opportunities that Sam has missed in these series of films. If he's still attached to the franchise, I don't see that changing.
Besides, Toby Mac is not the type of actors who can deliver the quips, as naturally and timely as we expect from Peter/Spidey character based off the comics/cartoon. The few quips we did game came off lame and the writing(quips) was cheesy. This group is not capable of delivering.
Venom:
Eddie died in SM3 (see said skeleton). I believe Sony said they didn't want Topher Grace back for the Venom Spinoff so Eddie's death works...and if they do go with a darker route Topher wouldn't fit the role.
We also know Connors still has the sample, so it is completely feasible that something in SM4 could quickly set up the Venom movie. I know that it'd kinda suck to see the ooze in SM4, but they could do it very quickly and discreetly. IE the symbiote gets knocked over when Connors changes into the Lizard. We just see it crawl away....cue to the Venom movie where some new guy gets the symbiote.
Exactly what I was trying to hint at... you did a much better job than I. A quick cameo scene that leads directly to the "Spin-off. Hence... Classic Eddie Brock, played by an actor who can deliver a darker role, not just of Venom, but as Eddie Brock as well; but also makes a very brief appearence at the Bugle, maybe speaking with JJJ & Robbie, trying to find answers about his missing son, cause no one outside of Peter, knows he's dead or was this unnamed villain.
I know they are filming them back to Back, but are they supposed to connected?
That's a good question, I'm not sure if anyone knows the answer. However, it is assume that it will be connected for that very reason. If you will, one huge film cut into two parts.
Spider-Man 5: Black Cat & Vulture
Black Cat & Vulture: Black Cat steals from wealthy tycoon Toomes (like 90s cartoon) for some sympathetic reason. Spiderman goes after her, but she gets away. Parker Meets Toomes to find out why BC would steal the stuff and establishing the needed character connection bn Parker and Toomes. MJ meanwhile gets pissed about the BC stuff (Throw some Felicia Stuff w Peter to rise up the emo w MJ). Vulture starts Rampaging (maybe stealing tech or something) We find out that Cat is actually doing good through crime bc Toomes is doing wrong. Toomes comes out as Vulture...BC and Spidey team up to take down Vulture.
That is not a bad idea, pretty good way to bring some sustenance to Black Cat. Not exactly the story or villains I would use, but that neitherless, a pretty good idea.... if these films are stand-alone films.
Actually this version of Sandman could be a benefit. Sandman once helped Spidey against the Six after Ock coerced him into rejoining the team. With a sick daughter, Marko could easily be leveraged.
You know, you are right... this version of Sandman would benefit from "the Six", can easily be leveraged as you say, and could turn against "the Six" and help Spidey in the end as you suggest, because quite frankly, he owes Spidey.
However I don't understand why many of you want "the Six" in a film with Sam at the wheel, and Toby as the title character. I would have thought people would have learned that lesson from SM3. IMO, Sam cannot handle more than one villain at a time. Now you want six, two of whom are already mis-characterized. I just don't get it. With the number of villains Spidey would be facing at any one time, he most definately would need to deliver some great "one liners" or quips. This group is incapable of doing that. IJDK(I just don't know).
for what? just to complete the six?
bringing him back would ruin the purpose of SM2. choice and sacrifice. he gave up the thing he wanted the most to do the right thing.
but the bad thing about him is that he wasn't a bad guy, to begin with. nor that arrogant guy we know from the comics. he was a successful and respected scientist working on his life-time dream.
I have to agree with you on that one Jick... bringing DocOck back kinda defeats the purpose of SM2. However, if one was going to bring anyone back, it should be the GG. He died with the motive of killing Spidey and we saw the influence and intent he had for Harry. So if you brought him back, the motives would still be there and he is a natural Leader. I can't say that about the version of DocOck we got.
Now I know many will say GG is dead and buried and DocOck we are not so sure.... but in these films seem to suggest the rapid healing powers of the performance enhancers. So with time, they could easily explain Norman's return.... which means at some point, they would have to bring back Harry. It is kinda dicey, but an idea. I just think with Sam's creation, Norman is a much better leader and have the motivation in compared to Octavius.
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