Sequels Thread for VILLANS in Spider-Man 4 and 5 (Don't make any more!)

[Ace of Knaves]

Deadpool!!!!

On a serious note I would like to see Lizard get the celluloid treatment. Maybe a hint for Carnage at the end, maybe the symbiote sample could be released in the final battle between Spidey and Lizard in Conners lab or something.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

I want the Vulture. It's a villain with a great potential. It's dark, drammatic and a great nemesis for Spidey.

 

[Hectorminator]

I want the Vulture. It's a villain with a great potential. It's dark, drammatic and a great nemesis for Spidey.

Word.

 

[Spider-Ranger]

That pic of him creeps the hell out of me

 

[Doctor Jones]

Has Kingsly done anything good lately? Like before he started sucking since the 90's?

I think we should go with a less obvious choice for Toomes.

I actually think they should just do once villain and do The Lizard. Maybe put Kraven in there., The whole hunt thing has been done.

SM5 - Vulture, Electro
SM6 - Scorpion, ???

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Havn't you seen "Sexy Beast"? If you haven't check it out now, i mean right now. Probs his best performance ever.

 

[Hectorminator]

I think we should go with a less obvious choice for Toomes.

Uh, why? That's dumb.

 

[Victarion]

Venom-Dock Ock hybrid: Some of the symbiote escaped from the construction sight and fled into the sewers. It detected a powerful lifeform and followed it to the bottom of the sea and found the body of Doctor Octopus. The symbiote was able to sense Otto's previous encounters with Spider-Man and bonded with the dead body of the doctor, raising him up as a new creature: Venopus. Dr. Venopus.

Carnage: The symbiote sample that Curt Connors kept felt everything the symbiote bonded with Peter and Eddie felt. In particular, Eddie's lust for Gwen and Peter's lust for revenge. One evening when Peter was staying late to help Dr. Connors with his lizard experiments, the symbiote escaped and followed Peter home. As it prepared to bond with him, it sense something else. A powerful libido that eclipsed that of Eddie and Peter combined. Following it to the source, the symbiote found it came from a harmless little old lady. It flowed over her and searched her mind, finding supressed rage at Peter for hiding his Spider-Man persona from her, for being responsible for Ben dying, and for not having grandchildren for her yet. The symbiote merged with May, combining her supressed rage and libido with the libido from Eddie and the anger from evil Peter. Thus, Carnage was born. In the guise of a little old lady, Carnage plagues New York with a large number of lust murders. Spider-Man must overcome his inhibitions and fight Carnage man to symbiote in order to prevent its wanton murder and destruction.
More to come.

 

[Hectorminator]

Dude, stop. It's not even funny anymore.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Na man, it ain't ever been funny.

 

[Robin91939]

If you think about it, with the films being made back-to-back and there being one long movie spread out over two films, Lizard probably won't be in Spider-man 4. Connors will probably be a vocal point in first part of this two part story. There will be another main villain, and then Spider-man 4 will end with the transformation of Connors into the Lizard.

This is how Spider-man 3 should have been handled, they should have had the film be just Sandman and New Goblin vs Spider-man. Eddie Brock should have been set up throughout the film and the film should have ended in a cliff hanger in the church with Venom swallowing the camera to go to the credits....let's rectify this and do it right with Spider-man 4 and 5.

Spider-man 4: Scorpion, Vulture, Chameleon, Rhino, Shocker, Electro, Kraven are the choices for villain. One or two of these could work.

Spider-man 5: The final film. Lizard and Kraven.

-R

 

[Congo Jack]

S-M4: Lizard, Kraven
S-M5: Electro, Vulture

Spider-Man 6: Electro, Vulture, Scorpion, Kraven, Shocker, Mysterio.

There's a slight lack of a leader figure for the Sinister Six (maybe Mysterio or Vulture could step up to the plate) - so I think if Doctor Octupus can be brought back in a not ridiculously corny way then it should be done and replace maybe Shocker.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Well Doc Ock can't be brought back unless they do something stupid and corny. We see him drown and probs get crushed by a load of heavy debris. There ain't no way he can return unless it turns into some silly far fetched crap.

 

[Congo Jack]

Well Doc Ock can't be brought back unless they do something stupid and corny. We see him drown and probs get crushed by a load of heavy debris. There ain't no way he can return unless it turns into some silly far fetched crap.

Dude's about to drown but the tentacles pull him out of the water.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Hmmm maybe, but it would still seem a bit far fetched I reckon.

 

[Congo Jack]

Hmmm maybe, but it would still seem a bit far fetched I reckon.

I know what you mean, but it's the only way I can think of that doesn't involve some crazy magic hookus-pookus or ressurection by the Hand.

 

[Jick]

Dude's about to drown but the tentacles pull him out of the water.

his tentacles pretty much "died" with him when he was drowning.
their lights stopped flashing.

 

[Congo Jack]

his tentacles pretty much "died" with him when he was drowning.
their lights stopped flashing.

Did they? I have a bad memory. Still, It's just the best way I can think of to bring Doc Ock back if he was indeed going to be brought back. Ben Kingsley certainly has enough presence to be credible as the leader if he was Vulture so if they could secure him again it may not be any problem at all.

 

[The Joker]

his tentacles pretty much "died" with him when he was drowning.
their lights stopped flashing.

We saw the Terminator's eye lights go out in T1 and T2, only to show them come back on again.

 

[Hectorminator]

I know what you mean, but it's the only way I can think of that doesn't involve some crazy magic hookus-pookus or ressurection by the Hand.

Idea: Norman Osborn is alive and has been faking being dead since the end of Spider-Man 1.

He plays everybody in the Sinister Six and makes them join because he has something they want.

Sandman: Osborn promises he'll cure his daughter's disease.

Vulture: enough money to retire in exchange for more flying suit designs.

Kraven: the glory of being involved in Spider-Man's death, plus more performance enhancers.

Electro: enough money to retire and a cure for his condition.

Doc Ock: Osborn fished Octavius out of the river and recussitated him after Spider-Man 2. He's been slowly brain-washing him over the course of a few years and made him believe Spider-Man took all the glory for Ock saving New York as well as being responsible for Rosie's death. He injects him with nanites that keep him in control, and Osborn makes him his personal scientist/slave/bodyguard. This will of course, backfire in the end.

This is the best way I can think of bringing back Doctor Octopus.

 

[BlueLightning]

Idea: Norman Osborn is alive and has been faking being dead since the end of Spider-Man 1.

He plays everybody in the Sinister Six and makes them join because he has something they want.

Sandman: Osborn promises he'll cure his daughter's disease.

Vulture: enough money to retire in exchange for more flying suit designs.

Kraven: the glory of being involved in Spider-Man's death, plus more performance enhancers.

Electro: enough money to retire and a cure for his condition.

Doc Ock: Osborn fished Octavius out of the river and recussitated him after Spider-Man 2. He's been slowly brain-washing him over the course of a few years and made him believe Spider-Man took all the glory for Ock saving New York as well as being responsible for Rosie's death. He injects him with nanites that keep him in control, and Osborn makes him his personal scientist/slave/bodyguard. This will of course, backfire in the end.

This is the best way I can think of bringing back Doctor Octopus.

That´s something I can see the Green Goblin would do. Maybe he could be manipulating Bernard the butler all the time, thus justifiying his late statements about his death.

Still Sandman was kind of reformed at the end of 3. And almost everything in this would not work. Everything sound very farfetched to me. The bar for superhero movies have been raised.

 

[Hectorminator]

That´s something I can see the Green Goblin would do. Maybe he could be manipulating Bernard the butler all the time, thus justifiying his late statements about his death.

Still Sandman was kind of reformed at the end of 3. And almost everything in this would not work. Everything sound very farfetched to me. The bar for superhero movies have been raised.

Norman Osborn is the master manipulator. Not only was he telling Bernard what to say and when (to mess with Harry) but most everything that's happened in the movies so far is because of Osborn.

As in the comics, after he comes back from near death he goes underground and tries to get Harry to inherit the Goblin legacy and finish what he started. He makes sure Harry is head of special projects, and then sabotages Octavius' experiment to try to get Harry to hit rock bottom, which he does. He doesn't anticipate creating Doctor Octopus, but that's icing on the cake. Because of this pleasant surprise, he doesn't want to let Ock go to waste in the end, so he fishes him out of the river and keeps him prisoner.

Next he finds out that Uncle Ben's killer is actually Flint Marko and he's sitting in jail, so he busts him out to mess with Peter. Then he creates the sand experiment and tests it on Marko, hoping to create a monster he can control. After Harry gets amnesia, he has to come back one last time to remind him what to do.

Yeah Sandman was reformed, but Osborn promises to cure his daughter's disease for his services, and to cure him so he can be normal. So Marko gets pulled back in.

Everything in this would work. It's not more farfetched than arc reactor technology or cell phone sonar/radar, from two films that raised the bar.

 

[The Joker]

Hectorminator, no more Goblins. Seriously, they spent three movies doing the Goblin story. It's done. A third Goblin is just redundant.

 

[BlueLightning]

But we are not talking about technology here. We are talking about character development. Both Doc Ock and Sandman were reformed. Marko still didn´t have money to help his daughter at the end of 3. Even if Gobby would try to persuade him into action, he was just forgiven by Peter, why undone it all again?

Oh and I wasn´t talking just about BB and TDK. Whispers: Iron Man, Hulk.

 

[Hectorminator]

Hectorminator, no more Goblins. Seriously, they spent three movies doing the Goblin story. It's done. A third Goblin is just redundant.

It's the first Goblin, not a third, but whatever. I just wanted a better Sinister Six than Vulture, Kraven, Rhino, Mysterio, Shocker, and Electro. It wouldn't be another Goblin story, it would be an Osborn-led team of villains story.

I don't see anyone else coming up with anything better.