Apocalypse Timeline?

[Schlosser85]

So, are the events of Apocalypse suppose to have already happened in the "original" timeline, or are they only happening now in the timeline altered by DOFP?

And if it's the latter, why didn't Apocalypse do whatever it is he's going to do in the original timeline?

 

[danoyse]

Apparently, the new events in 1973 (Paris, DC) trigger Apocalypse's arrival.

 

[marvelrobbins]

The belief is Wolverine's actions In DOFP and influence with Xavier,Magneto
and encounters with Mystique caused mutants to be out In public much earlier
than Original films.The actions causes Apocalypse to wake up after DOFP where he didn't In original preTrilogy.

 

[kasjan]

He was sleeping this whole time in old timeline.
Apocalypse have to remain for two centuries in hibernation. In comic Apocalypse awakens nearly a century earlier than planned due to the arrival of the time-traveling mutant Cable. Here it's because of Wolverine's time travel.

 

[psylockolussus]

Where did you get that info, I'm sorry if I missed anything.

 

[HIA]

So, are the events of Apocalypse suppose to have already happened in the "original" timeline, or are they only happening now in the timeline altered by DOFP?

And if it's the latter, why didn't Apocalypse do whatever it is he's going to do in the original timeline?

any post 1973 event that happens in the franchise from now is a prequel to Dofp last present time scene. (new timeline)

Original timeline was just more quiet, taking into account that in X1 the Goverment was just starting to talk about mutants and a possible mutant act. Simon Kinberg has adressed this new timeline recently

 

[Lilbaz]

any post 1973 event that happens in the franchise from now is a prequel to Dofp last present time scene. (new timeline)

Original timeline was just more quiet, taking into account that in X1 the Goverment was just starting to talk about mutants and a possible mutant act. Simon Kinberg has adressed this new timeline recently

Think they should have planned this all out from the beginning (as Marvel have). They've done a good job trying to pull it all back together. But the whole x-men Universe is a bit of a mess. Hope they know where they want to go with it now.

 

[HIA]

the only mess to me is the actors changes. Thats the worst thing a studio can do, in my opinion. If the quality of the script is always there, I dont have a problem, but when they ignore previous actors, cameos and the like, thats all kinds of cheap, lazy, unproffesional.

If you want to introduce a character, do it right from the very beggining, with a real plan with him/her, but dont start adding characters for the sake of it and then ignoring it in the next movies.

 

[Mace Dolex]

any post 1973 event that happens in the franchise from now is a prequel to Dofp last present time scene. (new timeline)

Original timeline was just more quiet, taking into account that in X1 the Goverment was just starting to talk about mutants and a possible mutant act. Simon Kinberg has adressed this new timeline recently

So when Wolverine awakens at the end of DOFP and sees everybody alive does that mean that have already encountered Apocalypse in 1983? or will AOA create yet a third timeline?

 

[psylockolussus]

They probably already encountered Apocalypse and Apocalypse will probably act as a prequel to the new timeline.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

Yep, they've already met and dealt with him by the time our Wolverine arrives

 

[x-er]

Most likely.
They wouldn't want to pull other time travel twists on general audiences. However, I do like twists of that sort, or creative puzzles on film (like Blink's portal when Colossus shoots through it), sometimes for the audience to figure out. I liked DOFP's time traveling, but thought it wasn't innovative for sci fi the way maybe Inception and Looper have been recently.

I wouldn't mind, though, if the Apocalypse arc ended with a film that mixed the FC, OT and other new cast (X-Force, Deadpool, Cable, Gambit), in some sort of new dimension, like ih the 90's cartoon episode about the axis of time.

 

[Schlosser85]

Stryker's age in DOFP would make it seem X-Men Origins: Wolverine is not canon, but I noticed Singer included a quick clip from it in Wolverine's flashbacks, specifically Victor Creed stomping his bone claws and breaking them.

It really doesn't fit in, with its Stryker and this one though.

 

[danoyse]

Stryker's age in DOFP would make it seem X-Men Origins: Wolverine is not canon, but I noticed Singer included a quick clip from it in Wolverine's flashbacks, specifically Victor Creed stomping his bone claws and breaking them.

It really doesn't fit in, with its Stryker and this one though.

The girl he was in bed with at the beginning of the 1973 scenes called him “Jimmy” too, which is only from Origins.

 

[Schlosser85]

So how are we supposed to reconcile Stryker being so young and basically Trask's henchman in DOFP while around the same time period in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, he's a middle-aged man and high-ranking military officer?

 

[marvelrobbins]

They cherrypicked what to acknowledge from Origins.

Wolverine should have been In vietnam In 1973 according to origins.He wasn;t.Bryan SInger was clearly more intrested In having a stryker who was younger version of Brian Cox's version In X2 at same time girl called wolverine Jmmy In hotel room nodd to origins.And Stryker had rank he had In origins when he recruited WOlverine and Sabretooth.

They took footage from Origins to add to weapon X memory flashbacks with X2.They also had quickflash of wolverine's bone claws being cut.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Think they should have planned this all out from the beginning (as Marvel have). They've done a good job trying to pull it all back together. But the whole x-men Universe is a bit of a mess. Hope they know where they want to go with it now.

Excellent job IMO

 

[KidxMikexMcfly]

Most likely.
They wouldn't want to pull other time travel twists on general audiences. However, I do like twists of that sort, or creative puzzles on film (like Blink's portal when Colossus shoots through it), sometimes for the audience to figure out. I liked DOFP's time traveling, but thought it wasn't innovative for sci fi the way maybe Inception and Looper have been recently.

I wouldn't mind, though, if the Apocalypse arc ended with a film that mixed the FC, OT and other new cast (X-Force, Deadpool, Cable, Gambit), in some sort of new dimension, like ih the 90's cartoon episode about the axis of time.

I wish they would pushed the sci-fi agenda more especially in the next film. Bishop is a time traveler but there wasn't really much of an indication in the movie. They utilized very little futuristic technology.

 

[dax]

So how are we supposed to reconcile Stryker being so young and basically Trask's henchman in DOFP while around the same time period in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, he's a middle-aged man and high-ranking military officer?

According to Empire Magazine, the Vietnam war scene in Origins is in 1975 and the one where Wolverine quits Team X is in 1979 so that puts most of Origins in 1985 which is why Stryker is a middle-aged man but the scene where he meets Wolverine in prison is troublesome in light of DOFP. As for him being a high-ranking military officer, Stryker mentioned in X2 that he was piloting black ops missions in the jungles of North Vietnam which is probably what earned him a higher rank.

 

[Lilbaz]

There are going to be a load of holes in the timeline. I'm just not going to worry about them and accept what happens in Apocalypse.

Fox does need to properly plan out the X-Men Universe though. If done right, it can be as big or even more popular than Marvels Universe. X-Men comics were bigger sellers than Avengers.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Yep, they've already met and dealt with him by the time our Wolverine arrives

It'd be kinda cool, if they tied it in, that their way of dealing with Apocalypse, was only a temporary fix, senting him away, or putting him into suspended animation/isolation, knowing that one day he would return again

and have him re-emerge in that future Wolverine woke up in, so, that Wolverine wouldn't know anything about him or what was going on, you'd just have Xavier being like "oh my god, he's back" and Wolverine would be like "who's back? what did I miss..." to set up the flash back

 

[Lilbaz]

Can Wolverine get his adamantium back please? I don't care how they do it. But bone claws suck.

 

[ciscostudent561]

and have him re-emerge in that future Wolverine woke up in, so, that Wolverine wouldn't know anything about him or what was going on, you'd just have Xavier being like "oh my god, he's back" and Wolverine would be like "who's back? what did I miss..." to set up the flash back

sounds pretty neat

 

[Creo]

So according to the end of DoFP, we now know that all of the major mutants survive Apocalypse and we don't really need to worry about them, correct? That sort of lessens the tension from the movie already.

 

[kasjan]

We know Xavier, Jean, Scott, Ororo, Hank and Logan survive.