Titans Titans General Discussion Thread - Part 1

[Primal Slayer]

Glad she gets a costume....but not a fan of the costume. Unless a chest plate is supposed to go where that "W" cut out...i'd prefer it if it was collard and the material just looks cheap.

 

[Matt.S99]

I dig it. Considering they probably don’t have a gigantic budget for costumes, it looks great.

I’m hoping they leak the Nightwing costume soon.
I don’t want to wait a whole year to see it!!

 

[MewMewTwo]

Leak of Wonder Girl's costume for Titans season 2.

I love it, and loved her character and acting, i am sure season 2 will be even better!

 

[InvisibleWoman]

Leak of Wonder Girl's costume for Titans season 2.

It looks a bit "Smallville" but she's so fit that I don't care. I mean it's not like they can purchase Superhero costumes at Bloomingdales so I quite like when they look a little... DIY.

 

[Iceman]

I can’t wait for season 2. Outside of the main 4 and Hawk and Dove, I’m looking forward to seeing Cyborg and Superboy, as well as returns for Donna and Jason Todd.

 

[X Knight]

I'm looking forward to Superboy. Hopefully he will get his tactile TK powers and not just be a "big strong" guy. If not tactile TK, at least give him Superman's powers of heat vision, freeze breath, and FLIGHT.

 

[MewMewTwo]

I can’t wait fir season 2. Outside of the main 4 and Hawk and Dove, I’m looking forward to seeing Cyborg and Superboy, as well as returns for Donna and Jason Todd.

Do you think Cyborg is gonna join the show? It was odd not seeing him in the group, but i did not liked his design for Doom Patrol, but if the characters is well written and acted, no problem.

 

[Iceman]

Do you think Cyborg is gonna join the show? It was odd not seeing him in the group, but i did not liked his design for Doom Patrol, but if the characters is well written and acted, no problem.

The design wasn't amazing, but yes I definitely expect him to join the show. He is a massive Titans character and it wouldn't make sense for him to just stay with Doom Patrol for good. (I'm looking forward to Doom Patrol though - I really enjoyed that episode)

 

[MewMewTwo]

The design wasn't amazing, but yes I definitely expect him to join the show. He is a massive Titans character and it wouldn't make sense for him to just stay with Doom Patrol for good. (I'm looking forward to Doom Patrol though - I really enjoyed that episode)

Probably. What i am thinking is that maybe he stays with the Doom Patrol through season 1, and then he joins the Titans in season 3.
Anyway is quite a big group of character we are getting, season 1 of Titans already got a lots of characters, i have never seen anything quite like this on television, is just like a comic book.

 

[Iceman]

I'm looking forward to Superboy. Hopefully he will get his tactile TK powers and not just be a "big strong" guy. If not tactile TK, at least give him Superman's powers of heat vision, freeze breath, and FLIGHT.

Agreed. As many of those as possible would be cool. I'm looking forward to the Cadmus storyline.

 

[Iceman]

Probably. What i am thinking is that maybe he stays with the Doom Patrol through season 1, and then he joins the Titans in season 3.
Anyway is quite a big group of character we are getting, season 1 of Titans already got a lots of characters, i have never seen anything quite like this on television, is just like a comic book.

Yeah, he'll for sure join in either season 2 or 3 at the latest.

I've been really positively surprised. And yes the group is getting huge, with Dick Grayson, Starfire, Raven and Beast Boy as the base team along with Hawk and Dove. Then we've had Jason Todd and Donna Troy introduced with Superboy and Cyborg likely to join too. That's 10 characters! (even if they don't all join the team or be on the team at the same time)

 

[The Infernal]

I just binged this show thinking "when does this get better?". It doesn't. Had heard some people were saying the show was better than the trailer made it out to be, but it doesn't seem by much. Starfire is easily the worst aspect of this show, I've no idea how you would even begin to course correct and Beast Boy is so low energy. Why were some people saying he was a highlight, because he wasn't the worst of the bunch?

I liked the Doom Patrol episode though and the later Hawk and Dove, but I felt that one to be a bit choppy and the cgi car crash looked straight out of scary movie.

 

[Iceman]

I just binged this show thinking "when does this get better?". It doesn't. Had heard some people were saying the show was better than the trailer made it out to be, but it doesn't seem by much. Starfire is easily the worst aspect of this show, I've no idea how you would even begin to course correct and Beast Boy is so low energy. Why were some people saying he was a highlight, because he wasn't the worst of the bunch?

I liked the Doom Patrol episode though and the later Hawk and Dove, but I delt that one to be a bit choppy and the cgi car crash looked straight out of scary movie.

I liked Starfire, but Beast Boy was barely in it and had very little to do even when he was. Not sure how he could be a highlight. Hopefully now that he’s established he’ll get a lot more next season. Did you not like Dick Grayson either?

 

[I Am The Knight]

The show is definitely a mixed bag, but an enjoyable one?

 

[The Infernal]

I liked Starfire, but Beast Boy was barely in it and had very little to do even when he was. Not sure how he could be a highlight. Hopefully now that he’s established he’ll get a lot more next season. Did you not like Dick Grayson either?

I just couldn't like her. She was a completely different character written for a different show. She just doesn't look or act like she should imo.

I wanted to like Grayson more than I did, but his arc is so badly written. The whole thing with him and Batman was handled so poorly, it really hurt the show not having someone cast as Bruce Wayne. It would have been much better had they told another story and just hinted at why he left Batman and concentrate on that in another season. It just looks bizarre trying to half tell a story with the other person always out of the room.

Then there's Trigon's involvement, which only happens in the last episode so that really throws into question Grayson and the Titans killing people. Even if you could argue Trigon was influencing things beforehand then why is Robin killing people and Batman isn't? The writing on this show doesn't make a lick of sense and don't even get me started on Grayson and Kory screwing immediately. There is no chemistry there.

I agree that there wasn't much of Beast Boy. I thought he was ok, but didn't really do much of have much time to shine. I would have liked to have seen him show more personality. There was even a moment in one of the episodes where he looked like his normal self with green skin and fangs.

I'd honestly like it if he were like that most of the time and it was normal for him. I don't really enjoy the grim dark tortured heroes on the run. That doesn't seem very Titans to me. A lot of what I see as Titans is the more positive outlook and them just bonding together both as a team and as friends, I never actually felt convinced they really bonded in this season. If it were up to me I would have made this more episodic and had an episode or two dedicated to them just socialising with one another and not always on the run.

 

[The Infernal]

The show is definitely a mixed bag, but an enjoyable one?

Well I liked a couple of episodes, but for me it's more a frustrating watch overall. I don't think the lead actors are the worst, more I lament the general direction and quality of the writing. Had it been a different direction with the same actors I think I would probably have been more forgiving.

 

[2kt09]

Then there's Trigon's involvement, which only happens in the last episode so that really throws into question Grayson and the Titans killing people.

It doesn't because it's unrelated. Star was sent to kill Raven, so she has no inhibitions. Raven has that uncontrollable split personality; I actually never knew she had healing abilities. Beastboy went "beast mode" for the first time after being tortured & broken in a cage. Outside of that, he says he's never bitten a person before. Robin is an addict; if the people you have to save are hurting to such a degree, you have to hurt back to insure their safety...as he rationalized.

 

[The Infernal]

It doesn't because it's unrelated. Star was sent to kill Raven, so she has no inhibitions. Raven has that uncontrollable split personality; I actually never knew she had healing abilities. Beastboy went "beast mode" for the first time after being tortured & broken in a cage. Outside of that, he says he's never bitten a person before. Robin is an addict; if the people you have to save are hurting to such a degree, you have to hurt back to insure their safety...as he rationalized.

My problem there was hearing that the grim dark tone made sense due to the Trigon reveal, but maybe they were just talking in regards to the promo for the last episode in regards to Batman killing. To me the whole angle seems misaimed and while I can conceive some characters can be excused for killing, like Raven being out of control, I just can't accept certain characters like Beast Boy killing people.

There's still the issue of how are supposed to take Robin seriously if he's killing people and Batman isn't, but somehow it's Bruce who is broken and gone too far. Then there's instances like when Kory fires directly on police officers seemingly killing them. They don't show the bodies, but she fired on them point blank and the next thing we see is the train going up in flames. That's messed up.

 

[2kt09]

My problem there was hearing that the grim dark tone made sense due to the Trigon reveal, but maybe they were just talking in regards to the promo for the last episode in regards to Batman killing. To me the whole angle seems misaimed and while I can conceive some characters can be excused for killing, like Raven being out of control, I just can't accept certain characters like Beast Boy killing people.

There's still the issue of how are we supposed to take Robin seriously if he's killing people and Batman isn't, but somehow it's Bruce who is broken and gone too far. Then there's instances like when Kory fires directly on police officers seemingly killing them. They don't show the bodies, but she fired on them point blank and the next thing we see is the train going up in flames. That's messed up.

BBoy killed the one guy who starved and tortured him.
Robin isn't. He's simply gotten to a point that's more terrifying than what we've seen from Hawk & Dove. It's supposed to be shocking. He's trying to beat that urge.
In his Trigon-induced dream, his fear is Batman having already gone over the deep end.
Kory is a killer.

 

[Matt.S99]

Just wanted to share this illustration I finished the other day. I’ll probably try and draw Robin next.

 

[The Infernal]

BBoy killed the one guy who starved and tortured him.
Robin isn't. He's simply gotten to a point that's more terrifying than what we've seen from Hawk & Dove. It's supposed to be shocking. He's trying to beat that urge.
In his Trigon-induced dream, his fear is Batman having already gone over the deep end.
Kory is a killer.

It's not that I don't understand the circumstances in which Beast Boy killed that guy, it's that I believe that scenario should never have been written in the first place.

Again, when it comes to Robin he is a hypocryte towards Batman and I don't get the impression the show meant it to look that way. It undermines the whole concept of him rebelling. It would have made a lot more sense had Trigon actually been twisting Robin from the start to believe Batman had gone dark rather than there really being nothing wrong with Bruce.

Stating Kory is a killer isn't explanation. I don't see why any of them had to be killers and cop killers should be in jail.

 

[2kt09]

It's not that I don't understand the circumstances in which Beast Boy killed that guy, it's that I believe that scenario should never have been written in the first place.

Again, when it comes to Robin he is a hypocryte towards Batman and I don't get the impression the show meant it to look that way. It undermines the whole concept of him rebelling. It would have made a lot more sense had Trigon actually been twisting Robin from the start to believe Batman had gone dark rather than there really being nothing wrong with Bruce.

Stating Kory is a killer isn't explanation. I don't see why any of them had to be killers and cop killers should be in jail.

They pushed him to his limits. The show pushed everyone to their limits, except Starfire who kills because she is the Terminator. She was sent to Earth to kill Raven. That's in her nature.

Batman in his dream sequence is doing far worse than Robin. It's not just broken bones and lacerations (the expectation from a street-level crimefighter). By the end of that asylum-cult episode, it couldn't be more spelled out Dick's done being that Robin. The only descriptive thing we know about Bruce's character is how the other Robins see him. Dick blames Bruce for making him be this violent. Jason thinks he's the coolest.

 

[Pennywise]

Titans Season 2 Character Breakdown Teases The Arrival Of Lex Luthor

“Mercurial and unpredictable, Dax delights in the element of surprise. Awkward and unpopular as a young boy, he insulated himself from others and developed masterful skills of manipulation. This led to a successful career as a criminal, where he had a unique ability to catch the enemy off-guard with his unassuming nature. Having spent many years in prison for his crimes, Dax is thrilled by the opportunity to get back to work and create chaos for his foes.”

 

[The Infernal]

They pushed him to his limits. The show pushed everyone to their limits, except Starfire who kills because she is the Terminator. She was sent to Earth to kill Raven. That's in her nature.

Batman in his dream sequence is doing far worse than Robin. It's not just broken bones and lacerations (the expectation from a street-level crimefighter). By the end of that asylum-cult episode, it couldn't be more spelled out Dick's done being that Robin. The only descriptive thing we know about Bruce's character is how the other Robins see him. Dick blames Bruce for making him be this violent. Jason thinks he's the coolest.

There's a big difference between having a mission to kill Raven because she's a doomsday macguffin and murdering innocent people who are in the way. They should have never written that for Starfire. Unless they reveal she's actually Blackfire then I don't see how they can fix that.

You're not really addressing the point. Robin acts as though Bruce has gone darker, but it seems like he's no worse than he usually is as Batman. The hypocracy just undermines his arc because it's not presented as though that's intentional and just lines up with the hokey "F Batman" in it's tone deafness.

Titans Season 2 Character Breakdown Teases The Arrival Of Lex Luthor

I think with the Superboy addition you will really need a Lex Luthor cast. A big part of Titans problem was no Bruce Wayne, but trying to tell Robin's story through the use of young Grayson in an empty room.

 

[MewMewTwo]

Yeah, he'll for sure join in either season 2 or 3 at the latest.

I've been really positively surprised. And yes the group is getting huge, with Dick Grayson, Starfire, Raven and Beast Boy as the base team along with Hawk and Dove. Then we've had Jason Todd and Donna Troy introduced with Superboy and Cyborg likely to join too. That's 10 characters! (even if they don't all join the team or be on the team at the same time)

I was not even gonna watch it until the moment my dad told me it was amazing, i thought it was gonna be the same crap we always get wit hsuperhero/comic book shows, but it was really well handled. Is just like a comic book.