TMNT 1990: Best Comic Film All Time

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Here's my article I posted at the editorial section over at comic book movie . com !

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1990: The Best Comic to Film Adaption Thus Far
That's right true believers: Forget The Dark Knight, Spider-Man 2, V for Vendetta, Superman, or even The Crow. The following is why I believe TMNT 1990 is the best comic book film of all time.
You have to ask yourself what exactly qualifies for a good movie, and when it comes to comic book films, quantifying greatness can even be a harder task.

For one thing, you would not think a film about four mutant teenage turtles would qualify for a "great film." But, that is our imagination isn't it? Four mutant turtles? Radioactive spiders? Men driven by physiological trauma to risk their lives and dress up like bats? A seemingly phantom like figure carried by once loving memory of his future wife lead by a mystical crow?




Our collective imagination runs deep. If one were to bring up the argument that "four mutant turtles" is ludicrous, well, I don't want to know you. You're shortsighted and bare mind void of imagination is enough to tell me you're heart is seemingly rotten.

Dismantling the argument that condemning one form of imagination is not a valid argument for a film not being great, consider the following of what makes a great film:

The collective occurrence of good acting, music, plot, and of course, characterization. Well, what makes a good "comic" film, pray tell? Many would agree, the adherence or "faithfulness" to source material brought together with what makes a great film, right?



When I first saw TMNT 1990, sitting there in the theater, I felt like I was having an out of body experience with joy. The TMNT were on every kid's mind, it seemed, back then. It was a joy to see them come alive, on the screen, fighting their nemesis Shredder, with the aid of their human friend, April.

The movie qualifies for the best comic to film adaptation because of many things.

For one, the filmmakers, and director knew a very important thing about their audience. They knew parents would most indefinitely have to bring their kids, the targeted audience, to this movie. That in mind, they knew when to hold back the damn cheese. You know what I mean. The film almost never insults the audiences intelligence. It is gritty, dark, and surprisingly violent!

Just like the original comics! Back to the whole source material! Wow! What a concept!



To add to that, the characterization of Leonardo and Raphael were handled quite well. This film was about four brothers, in search of their lost father, and amongst that journey, discovering things about themselves, with fun action, good acting, and minimum cheese. Some of the things Splinter says, are so profound, you would have thought it was a different type of film.

Everyone could relate to Raphael's inner turmoil of anger, and when the calm and wise father advises him that his family is there for him, in a well acted for puppets and NON-CHEESY sort of way, there's an immediate connection, turtle or human or what have you.

Breaking down the simple elements of having fun, and keeping things grounded, while at the same time not contriving situations and acting, goes a long way.



You can nitpick many things about this film, I'm sure. But there's no denying it was made with the intention of "Let's get this puppy done right." The independent film nature of the project was probably the best thing to happen to TMNT.

Some more elements of greatness. April O'Neil was spot on. The nemesis, or The Shredder, having an close past with the heroes and their father, was a bad-ass. The musical score of the film is engaging, especially during the final fight. The acting, especially for the turtles, guys in costumes and puppeteers on the side lines, are exceptional!

Consider the end scene, when Leonardo is grasping for dear hope with Shredder's weapon at his throat, Michaelangelo and Donatello look to the respectable and older brother left, Raphael, to whether they should toss their weapons or not.

Little things like this, showing the foresight and thought and consideration for a property that had been alive for only 6 years (1984 comic debut) was inspiring.

In the end, the dark, gritty nature of TMNT, along with element that this film stands very well today, despite it's cultural references, while adhering to the collective band of what makes a great film and it's uncanny respect for the source material while instilling only some of the elements of the cartoon, in my mind, is the best comic to film adaption to date. Hands down.



This is coming from more of a Spider-Man fan, than turtles fan. I wanted Spider-Man to be so great, but Sam Raimi's lack of foresight and adamant nature to instill so much cheese in the franchise, while making Peter Parker a mute no personality shadow of himself, well, has prompted my encouragement for the forthcoming reboot.

The only thing that sickens me is that there is no special edition of this film with deleted footage or documentaries. Yeah, there is some bull-crap German version, but how does that help us here in the US. I can't wait for a special edition on Blu Ray with all the bells and whistles, this under-appreciated film most certainly deserves.
 
A well-considered and well crafted post. :up:

Though I don't rank the movie as highly as, say, The Dark Knight, it is something of a classic. The greatest thing about it is the way it brings the Turtles to life. Not simply the costumes and animatronics, but the treatment of them as real people with character, emotions and flaws.

It was very brave of the movie to make Raphael as angry and rebellious as he was. If it had been a studio movie instead of an independent, it would have been diluted down greatly or even taken out.

The gritty New York atmosphere, the dingy sewers, the streets, the muggers...the movie takes place in the real world, and miraculously makes the viewer believe the Turtles actually exist. This alone is wonderful, but the emotion of it - the film is all about families - makes it far more than that.

And the climactic battle with the Shredder is as thrilling and operatic as any final fight scene you'll find in any movie.
 
Do you post over at Thetechnodrome NinjaCarm? I could have sworn that I've seen this before. It is a very good thought out argument. I agree with you that it is one of the best, if not the best, comic book movies. Thanks for sharing.
 
teeange mutnatn inja turtle moives are aawesome. i watch it at least twice a a week. i finnley got it on blu ray this christmas. i hope the new moive is aweosm. does anyone know when its coming out? i heard 2011 then 2012 then 2013. so not surewhen it comeing out.
 
I just love this movie. As a kid, I was fascinated with this film, it impacted me profoundly. I can say that I like so much Batman Begins/The Dark Knight is because of the elements of this particular movie. It had a sense of verosimilitude that could make my imagination fly away, and still be grounded effectively on my reality. Don't know about you guys, but this film is one of my favorites of all time.

When I rediscovered this movie, getting the DVD and watching it again, now with a better understanding of the world (and english for that matter), I fell in love again. The Turtles were so relatable, like real beings with feelings, their juvenile minds and motivations, their paternal figure of a wise old man. It was just great to see this family interact, even though isolated from the society for their own good... and dismay.

April and Casey came along as great friends, a gateway to a new world that is open to the young mind of the turtles. And become part of their family, adding stranger elements to the mix, but never stealing the movie from their protagonists. For example, the little parallelism of April's dad and Splinter on the "Second Time Around" antique store gets me every time.

And the film gets a broader aproach when we discover the antagonist. The Shredder and the Foot Clan, that manages to corrupts the young people of the city. Making them believe that the world rejects them, and that the Shredder is their only father,that they belong to a twisted family that its only purpose is to serve its master, caring nothing for their members. The Shredder manages to be a worthy adversary so connected with the Turtles and yet so distant to them at the same time. His merciless and brutality make him a very formidable villian.

The turtles defeat, both physically and mentally is delightfully handled, as so is their way to victory. They lose everything: their home, their father, almost a brother. Even taking toll to their friend's, as Aprils losses her house to. But as great is their fall, greater is their victory at the end. Not glamorous and shining, but a heartwarming reunion with what matters the most: their family.

I could go on and on about this, but to summarize: I love being a Turtle...Fan!
 
Yeah, it really is a glorious movie. There are parts of this movie that stay with me. Things like the turtles practicing in the field at their retreat. Stupid turtle wax jokes from Mike. And I think that's part of the charm, that the film brought you into the family. My favorite Superhero movie is the Incredibles, for a number of reasons, but I can't say that I felt like a part of that family, that I could connect with the push and pull of its internal politics. I was there for the fun. They were my neighbors, not 'mine' per se.

Thematically, obviously, it doesn't touch the grand epic scope of things like the Dark Knight which questions the value of chaos and other things of that nature, but emotionally, resonantly, relatably, I agree, TMNT connects us to the heroes more powerfully than anything else I've seen.
 
Can't believe I haven't seen this movie yet.

And it's a shame I didn't see it as a kid since I grew up watching the '80s cartoon. :csad:
 
Thematically, obviously, it doesn't touch the grand epic scope of things like the Dark Knight which questions the value of chaos and other things of that nature, but emotionally, resonantly, relatably, I agree, TMNT connects us to the heroes more powerfully than anything else I've seen.

Turtles may not ask the deep moral questions of The Dark Knight, but it asks it's own questions; Turtles is all about family. What makes a family? Is it the Foot Clan, a bunch of juvenile delinquents under the tutelage of the Shredder and Tatsu? Is it Danny and his dad who doesn't pay him enough attention to see that he's become a thief under his nose? Or is it four mutant turtles and their surrogate giant rat father?

The Dark Knight is a smarter movie, but Turtles has far more heart. The Dark Knight is a masterpiece on many levels, but the true magic of Turtles is that it genuinely, genuinely makes you believe in the characters - and as characters, not special effects.

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Can't believe I haven't seen this movie yet.

And it's a shame I didn't see it as a kid since I grew up watching the '80s cartoon. :csad:

Turtles is also one of the few movies to improve on it's source material. It's better than the original comics or the cartoon.

Check out this new Mondo poster:

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Found the whole thing on Youtube. And yeah, I must agree, this is probably the finest comic book to film adaptation I've seen.

Cowabunga, dude. :mikey:
 
Yes it is one of the best I love the way the turtles look.
 
I haven't seen TMNT II but it doesn't look very good. Whereas the first film is based on the darker comic books, the sequel seems to resemble the cartoon series more. Shredder's costume is purple. There are two Bebop and Rocksteady look alikes. Also, Vanilla Ice?!
 
Yeah, well things actually came downhill after that. Many parents apparently were upset about the tone and violence on the first film, so they toned massively down that aspects. Notice that now, Leo and Raph didn't use their weapons against foes. And then came the third one :/

So, the second one it's fun, and all of that, it kinda has traces of the sentiment brought by the first, but the movie has another set of goals: entertain the kids. So it is a fun movie, but no more. The third one is kinda painful to watch, because the poor production values (effects, costumes... Splinter looks like a brown paperbag with ears).

I view the last TMNT as a Superman Returns-esque attempt to bring back to the publics mind the franchise. The best things of it were the characterization of Leo and Raph. The story and other characters were kind of meh. And it's painful to say that because I like the Turtles so much. It is good, but I think it could have been a lot better. It failed to capture the magic of the first film. Maybe it was that "One in a Million" chance. Time will tell.
 
I agree it was a good film... However I think it fails in one aspect (which a movie should have)... and that's appealing to a very broad audience. Not every has to like a film, but that's your intent... to bring in fans and non-fans. TMNT doesn't hold that "classic" appeal on the level that, say, Richard Donner's 1st Superman does. To me, that 1st Superman is pure magic... in a different realm of TMNT. I did see TMNT 1 (&2) in the theatres. They were definitely entertaining. ;)
 
Yeah, well things actually came downhill after that. Many parents apparently were upset about the tone and violence on the first film, so they toned massively down that aspects. Notice that now, Leo and Raph didn't use their weapons against foes. And then came the third one :/

So, the second one it's fun, and all of that, it kinda has traces of the sentiment brought by the first, but the movie has another set of goals: entertain the kids. So it is a fun movie, but no more. The third one is kinda painful to watch, because the poor production values (effects, costumes... Splinter looks like a brown paperbag with ears).

I view the last TMNT as a Superman Returns-esque attempt to bring back to the publics mind the franchise. The best things of it were the characterization of Leo and Raph. The story and other characters were kind of meh. And it's painful to say that because I like the Turtles so much. It is good, but I think it could have been a lot better. It failed to capture the magic of the first film. Maybe it was that "One in a Million" chance. Time will tell.

You can see just how great an achievement the firts movie is by watching the second, The Secret of the Ooze. It's awful. Virtually no plot, just a lot of silly ideas - Vanilla Ice, comedy monsters, it's lame. It's pure conveyor-belt filler for kids. The first movie could so easily have been exactly the same, and would probably have made just as much money - but director Steve Baron made something genuine, with heart and reality to it.
 
I think one of the main reasons TMNT III failed is because The Jim Henson Creature Shop didn't do the turtles or Splinter
 
hey i'm still waiting for the movie adaptation of biker mice from mars
 
You can see just how great an achievement the firts movie is by watching the second, The Secret of the Ooze. It's awful. Virtually no plot, just a lot of silly ideas - Vanilla Ice, comedy monsters, it's lame. It's pure conveyor-belt filler for kids. The first movie could so easily have been exactly the same, and would probably have made just as much money - but director Steve Baron made something genuine, with heart and reality to it.

Yes, looking back with some perspective, Steve Baron sure take big risks with the film. Looking at al the TMNT craze from that time: the cartoons, toys and everything, the film could have gone to the polar opposite. I'm glad it turned the way it went. Even though we got three sort of misses with the franchise, we can go back to the first one and rejoice.

On the other hand, I also like the TMNT 2003 series, it had some very interesting story arcs. The Turtles work in so many levels, and this animated series showed that. I brought this one, because like the movie, it also treats the Turtles as a family (that gets extended as the series progresses). I just like that. Also it was one of the most close to the source comic animated series I have seen.

Back on topic: The movie truly is a very underrated film. When will we have our Special Edition DVD?
 
Have you guys noticed that any adaptation after the movie series (the 2000s cartoon, the live action TV show, etc) always has Raphael with the thick Brooklyn accent.

Also, ever since the first cartoon show from the 80s, it seems like casting directors always tried to keep Leo's voice the same as Cam Clark's?
 
You're joking right? TMNT was just an average film at that and is no way even close to the level of The Dark Knight or The Crow
 
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I think one of the main reasons TMNT III failed is because The Jim Henson Creature Shop didn't do the turtles or Splinter

Those costumes were lame. However, Turtles III is prefereable to II in that it has a plot, it has Casey Jones and no Vanilla Ice. Turtles III is based on early comic story in which the Turtles travelled back in time to overthrow an emperor (alongside Cereberus the Ardvark).

Having said all that, it's still a silly, lazy cash-in full of cheap gags and lazy slapstick.
 

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