Superman Returns told you so...

[Deadman666]

Though, Supes did a lot of whining in SR. You got to admit that...

What lines indicated whining?

He just seemed more like he was being dark and brooding for the whole film.

 

[charl_huntress]

What lines indicated whining?

He just seemed more like he was being dark and brooding for the whole film.

Brooding is an apt description, but I'm kind of referring to the scene were he is crying

That's like...the definition of whining and he had tears to accompany them. Now, I know why he was crying, but...ya know what mean

 

[Steelsheen]

i cant believe it, i just cant believe it.

Singer is going for Zod-- again?

is this the same guy who gave us The Usual Suspects-- one of the most original films in recent memory?


makes me wonder if Singer is truly the guy calling the shots, or if he's just Donner's mouthpiece.

 

[Deadman666]

Brooding is an apt description, but I'm kind of referring to the scene were he is crying

That's like...the definition of whining and he had tears to accompany them. Now, I know why he was crying, but...ya know what mean

You mean when his eyes teared up when he flew away? I dont think whining is the best word for that.

Everytime I think of whining, I think of Clark complaining on the farm that hes different and cant be with Lana...blah blah blah

 

[Super Kal]

i would consider that tearing up... not whining

 

[charl_huntress]

You mean when his eyes teared up when he flew away? I dont think whining is the best word for that.

Everytime I think of whining, I think of Clark complaining on the farm that hes different and cant be with Lana...blah blah blah

I do That's exactly what my four year niece does when she can't get her way...except she doesn't fly and she's really cute when she does it.

SV Clark is kind of whiny too, but...he's a teenager. I expect that from a teenager, not a grown ass man who also calls himself Superman. Funny when I saw that scene in the trailer it wasn't so bad to me because Supes has cried before. Yet, it was the rest of the film that added to that moment. He just seemed so wimpy and not super.

 

[Deadman666]

The difference is your 4 yr old niece does it in front of people to try to elicit a response, to get pity and get something in return.

Superman just reacted to Lois' words, flew off.. teared up for a second, though he wasnt full on crying or anything, he fought it and held it back...and just went on with being Superman and saving lives...regardless of the situation.

 

[charl_huntress]

^^Yeah, but this is what Singer was trying to "show" the audience about Superman.

LOL...he was doing it for a crowd too and for a reaction...lol...that's the same thing my niece does except it's usually just for her mom and dad. I don't normally get her confused with Superman She's only four and she's still got a long way to go...

 

[Spare-Flair]

Imagine if Singer was given the Batman franchise to resurrect.

BATMAN RETURNS (By Bryan Singer)

Batman (a young Michael Keaton lookalike but even shorter and scrawnier) would go on a journey after he hears his parents might be still alive out there...return to find Vicki Vale (played by a boring actress) had a son with the other reporter guy. Joker, played by a Jack Nicholson impersonator would come back from the dead to try to use the same smiley cosmetics and laughing gas scheme all over again. The music is also by Prince (again).

Batman would spend his nights not fighting crime but stalking around Vicki's house using his skills to spy on her with his Bat Night-vision telescope. He'd get depressed and go joyriding in the Batmobile with the windows down to feel better. Eventually Joker would kidnap Vicki again (trying again to make her fall in love with him) and also kidnap her son in the process. The now flaccid and depressed Batman can barely fight off Joker's henchmen (the same goons and same costumes as in the original) as they goon around town so he can't save Vicki. Just as a goon gets pissed off enough to kill Vicki, her son displays hidden acrobatic skills that he learned himself since he was inspired by stories of Batman (who has been missing for 5 years) and defeats all the goons by himself.

Later, as Joker shoots the Batwing again (Batman hasn't learned to install bulletproof armor on the Batwing even after so many years), and Batman climbs up the rebuilt tower after Joker AGAIN, this time Batman is so depressed that he gets hit by the brand new bell that Joker pushes down the stairwell. Batman gets buried under the rubble but Vicki and her son escape since the other reporter dude rescues them instead of Batman. As they are leaving the tower, it's up to Batman's kid to miraculously see a patch of black & gold under a mountain of rubble and they turn around to pull the useless Batman out. Batman wakes up and is determined to go back so he stands up and stares at the shining moon for effect, and goes back to the tower and runs into it's structural support with the Batmobile which knocks it over (but then, Batman gets buried in rubble all over again).

Then we spend the last hour of the movie watching Batman in a hospital bed. THE END.

Oh yeah, and right at the end, Batman (still stalking and using his skills to break in and enter Vicki and the other reporter guy's house, visits his kid while he's sleeping and whispers some lame thing Thomas Wayne said to him when Bruce was a kid and then whispers into the kid's ear that he's going to be called Robin when he grows up. Vicki catches Batman as he's leaving.
"Will I see you again?

"I'M BATMAN!!!"

 

[Thot]

Someone get Singer far, far away from the Superman franchise!

 

[David33]

Someone get Singer far, far away from the Superman franchise!

Amen .

 

[KaptainKrypton]

^^Yeah, but this is what Singer was trying to "show" the audience about Superman.

LOL...he was doing it for a crowd too and for a reaction...lol...that's the same thing my niece does except it's usually just for her mom and dad. I don't normally get her confused with Superman She's only four and she's still got a long way to go...

Not to stir the pot, Charl...but I would've rather seen him tear up after hearing the love of his life write him off like last Sunday's newspaper. Were you expecting him to chuckle or something?

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

This movie has been the most emotional story for superman on film to date.. just because we hardly see superman do the things he did in Returns, doesn't mean he doesn't do them.

 

[Bale]

Someone get Singer far, far away from the Superman franchise!

WB get a new director, new writer like TIMM,DINI and of course a director who is capable of doing hardcore action sequences with Metallo,Brainiac,Parasite,Bizarro,Darkseid and Doomsday.
NO CHICK FLICK, romantic movie, stalking, beer drinking Superman and a Lois Lane Teenie look a like.

One of the most important things: Get rid of the old vision by Donner.
Get something fresh and new, get rid of Lex Luthor and his Teschmacher look a likes.

 

[buggs0268]

i cant believe it, i just cant believe it.

Singer is going for Zod-- again?

is this the same guy who gave us The Usual Suspects-- one of the most original films in recent memory?


makes me wonder if Singer is truly the guy calling the shots, or if he's just Donner's mouthpiece.

Nah. Donner would be giving us something new.

 

[Bad Superman]

Imagine if Singer was given the Batman franchise to resurrect.

BATMAN RETURNS (By Bryan Singer)

Batman (a young Michael Keaton lookalike but even shorter and scrawnier) would go on a journey after he hears his parents might be still alive out there...return to find Vicki Vale (played by a boring actress) had a son with the other reporter guy. Joker, played by a Jack Nicholson impersonator would come back from the dead to try to use the same smiley cosmetics and laughing gas scheme all over again. The music is also by Prince (again).

Batman would spend his nights not fighting crime but stalking around Vicki's house using his skills to spy on her with his Bat Night-vision telescope. He'd get depressed and go joyriding in the Batmobile with the windows down to feel better. Eventually Joker would kidnap Vicki again (trying again to make her fall in love with him) and also kidnap her son in the process. The now flaccid and depressed Batman can barely fight off Joker's henchmen (the same goons and same costumes as in the original) as they goon around town so he can't save Vicki. Just as a goon gets pissed off enough to kill Vicki, her son displays hidden acrobatic skills that he learned himself since he was inspired by stories of Batman (who has been missing for 5 years) and defeats all the goons by himself.

Later, as Joker shoots the Batwing again (Batman hasn't learned to install bulletproof armor on the Batwing even after so many years), and Batman climbs up the rebuilt tower after Joker AGAIN, this time Batman is so depressed that he gets hit by the brand new bell that Joker pushes down the stairwell. Batman gets buried under the rubble but Vicki and her son escape since the other reporter dude rescues them instead of Batman. As they are leaving the tower, it's up to Batman's kid to miraculously see a patch of black & gold under a mountain of rubble and they turn around to pull the useless Batman out. Batman wakes up and is determined to go back so he stands up and stares at the shining moon for effect, and goes back to the tower and runs into it's structural support with the Batmobile which knocks it over (but then, Batman gets buried in rubble all over again).

Then we spend the last hour of the movie watching Batman in a hospital bed. THE END.

Oh yeah, and right at the end, Batman (still stalking and using his skills to break in and enter Vicki and the other reporter guy's house, visits his kid while he's sleeping and whispers some lame thing Thomas Wayne said to him when Bruce was a kid and then whispers into the kid's ear that he's going to be called Robin when he grows up. Vicki catches Batman as he's leaving.
"Will I see you again?

"I'M BATMAN!!!"

That was both disturbing and funny. . . . I like it!!!

 

[NateGray]

Dude, you need help...

No more so than you do for defending even the bad parts of SR.

 

[NateGray]

You are certainly entitled to your opinion but if Singer announced tommorrow that Zod was the villian I would be fine with it! Considering that the first Christopher Reeve Superman was my introduction to Superman, and not the crappy post-crisis Byrneman! People here also say that Zod was an invention of the films, and this is not true either. He was appearing in Superman titles as early as 1965's Superman vs the Flash but was called General Dru-Zod in that comic. So he has some comics history that could be explored, and maybe even a flashback to his attempted takeover of Krypton would be cool to see. I think people here are too harsh to write off Singer. And I refuse to do so!

Sorry but by all your posts I think if they announce anything you would be happy.
Other people have higher standards and want better.

 

[Bale]

Imagine if Singer was given the Batman franchise to resurrect.

BATMAN RETURNS (By Bryan Singer)

Batman (a young Michael Keaton lookalike but even shorter and scrawnier) would go on a journey after he hears his parents might be still alive out there...return to find Vicki Vale (played by a boring actress) had a son with the other reporter guy. Joker, played by a Jack Nicholson impersonator would come back from the dead to try to use the same smiley cosmetics and laughing gas scheme all over again. The music is also by Prince (again).

Batman would spend his nights not fighting crime but stalking around Vicki's house using his skills to spy on her with his Bat Night-vision telescope. He'd get depressed and go joyriding in the Batmobile with the windows down to feel better. Eventually Joker would kidnap Vicki again (trying again to make her fall in love with him) and also kidnap her son in the process. The now flaccid and depressed Batman can barely fight off Joker's henchmen (the same goons and same costumes as in the original) as they goon around town so he can't save Vicki. Just as a goon gets pissed off enough to kill Vicki, her son displays hidden acrobatic skills that he learned himself since he was inspired by stories of Batman (who has been missing for 5 years) and defeats all the goons by himself.

Later, as Joker shoots the Batwing again (Batman hasn't learned to install bulletproof armor on the Batwing even after so many years), and Batman climbs up the rebuilt tower after Joker AGAIN, this time Batman is so depressed that he gets hit by the brand new bell that Joker pushes down the stairwell. Batman gets buried under the rubble but Vicki and her son escape since the other reporter dude rescues them instead of Batman. As they are leaving the tower, it's up to Batman's kid to miraculously see a patch of black & gold under a mountain of rubble and they turn around to pull the useless Batman out. Batman wakes up and is determined to go back so he stands up and stares at the shining moon for effect, and goes back to the tower and runs into it's structural support with the Batmobile which knocks it over (but then, Batman gets buried in rubble all over again).

Then we spend the last hour of the movie watching Batman in a hospital bed. THE END.

Oh yeah, and right at the end, Batman (still stalking and using his skills to break in and enter Vicki and the other reporter guy's house, visits his kid while he's sleeping and whispers some lame thing Thomas Wayne said to him when Bruce was a kid and then whispers into the kid's ear that he's going to be called Robin when he grows up. Vicki catches Batman as he's leaving.
"Will I see you again?

"I'M BATMAN!!!"

Great, one hell of an innovative post. A HORROR story par excellence.

 

[Milkman95]

Amen .

I see you're still up to posting insightful and well thought-out responses, well done, you continue to make a fool out of yourself.

Also, ZOD will NOT be in any Superman Returns sequel..............

 

[DogofKrypton]

I see you're still up to posting insightful and well thought-out responses, well done, you continue to make a fool out of yourself.

Also, ZOD will NOT be in any Superman Returns sequel..............

How is that any different than what Venom does, and I don't see you insulting him? Is it because you agree with him?

 

[Immortalfire]

Imagine if Singer was given the Batman franchise to resurrect.

BATMAN RETURNS (By Bryan Singer)

Batman (a young Michael Keaton lookalike but even shorter and scrawnier) would go on a journey after he hears his parents might be still alive out there...return to find Vicki Vale (played by a boring actress) had a son with the other reporter guy. Joker, played by a Jack Nicholson impersonator would come back from the dead to try to use the same smiley cosmetics and laughing gas scheme all over again. The music is also by Prince (again).

Batman would spend his nights not fighting crime but stalking around Vicki's house using his skills to spy on her with his Bat Night-vision telescope. He'd get depressed and go joyriding in the Batmobile with the windows down to feel better. Eventually Joker would kidnap Vicki again (trying again to make her fall in love with him) and also kidnap her son in the process. The now flaccid and depressed Batman can barely fight off Joker's henchmen (the same goons and same costumes as in the original) as they goon around town so he can't save Vicki. Just as a goon gets pissed off enough to kill Vicki, her son displays hidden acrobatic skills that he learned himself since he was inspired by stories of Batman (who has been missing for 5 years) and defeats all the goons by himself.

Later, as Joker shoots the Batwing again (Batman hasn't learned to install bulletproof armor on the Batwing even after so many years), and Batman climbs up the rebuilt tower after Joker AGAIN, this time Batman is so depressed that he gets hit by the brand new bell that Joker pushes down the stairwell. Batman gets buried under the rubble but Vicki and her son escape since the other reporter dude rescues them instead of Batman. As they are leaving the tower, it's up to Batman's kid to miraculously see a patch of black & gold under a mountain of rubble and they turn around to pull the useless Batman out. Batman wakes up and is determined to go back so he stands up and stares at the shining moon for effect, and goes back to the tower and runs into it's structural support with the Batmobile which knocks it over (but then, Batman gets buried in rubble all over again).

Then we spend the last hour of the movie watching Batman in a hospital bed. THE END.

Oh yeah, and right at the end, Batman (still stalking and using his skills to break in and enter Vicki and the other reporter guy's house, visits his kid while he's sleeping and whispers some lame thing Thomas Wayne said to him when Bruce was a kid and then whispers into the kid's ear that he's going to be called Robin when he grows up. Vicki catches Batman as he's leaving.
"Will I see you again?

"I'M BATMAN!!!"

Lmao

I notice how they'd still call it, Batman Returns Hehehehe

 

[Milkman95]

How is that any different than what Venom does, and I don't see you insulting him? Is it because you agree with him?

I don't agree with Venom all the time either, but clearly David33's intentions are to only bash and troll without bringing anything worthy to any discussion. Heck, look at his signature, it's a joke.

It's way different than Venom, I've seen him discuss plenty of topics......

 

[Venom71]

I don't agree with Venom all the time either, but clearly David33's intentions are to only bash and troll without bringing anything worthy to any discussion. Heck, look at his signature, it's a joke.

It's way different than Venom, I've seen him discuss plenty of topics......

Thanks Milkman! Can't wait For Rocky Balboa!!!

 

[Kleric]

I fear that if Singer is granted his sequel that it will indeed be a reworking of Superman 2.

Easy enough to do:

Lois discovers Clark is Superman; he gives up being Sups (powers and all) to have a “normal” life with Lois and Jason.

But wait Luthor frees the phantom zone criminals and they head off to the fortress to power back up. Once back to full power that wacky Zod is up to his old tricks, world domination and what not. Clark realizes the world needs Superman and with the help of his sort of super-powered son they get Clark’s powers back and stop the bad guys! Yeah! The world is safe again Superman thanks to you!

*Sigh*

I liked some elements of Superman Returns but the issue for me was it was a re-tread of Superman the Movie, which did not need to be re-made under the guise of a "kind-of" sequel.

There is just so much great material that has been overlooked by the last 3 directors (Burton, Abrams, MCG and Singer) I can’t help but feel a Batman Begins treatment would have been much more satisfying to fans and the general public alike.

Kleric