The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane VIII

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[Marx]

Raganork, stop. You're making mountains out of molehills again.

You're basing the theory of vision on a different mask and film trilogy. It makes no sense. At this point, it's not about 'realism'. You, and Marx, are making the argument that just because Spiderman can see out his mask -- every mask in the existence of the universe is deemed wearable and tactical.

Yes, Spiderman can see out of the mask. Point? I never stated that.

Well Raganork, I'm going to tell you what I told Marx, show me a Luchador Mask that won't affect eyesight, mobility and breathing patterns. In addition, you must make it intimidating to the GA.

You simply can't. It isn't a stretch to imagine, but to pull off... that is another story. Dr. Manhattan was a badass in the comics, but the GA never took him seriously simply because his genitals were showing.

Neither I, nor Raganork, or anyone else for that matter owes you anything Doomsday. I think you're purposely overlooking the points that have been made in an attempt to troll those who do not agree with you. And that's not constructive to any conversation in the least.

 

[conan69]

I know, I'm asking you to consider him not being a clown for one moment.

wouldn't that bother you? It'd bother me

Of course.


Maybe its just that Im a older fan not as familiar with Bane as some of the younger guys. I was reading Batman comics during the great O'Neal/Adams run of the 70s and Colans run of the early/mid 80s.

I understand the threat Banes poses. But in a real world setting Banes freakishly large size isnt so important. I do understand the complaint. But to me, having a guy who has mastered the art of breaking a man body, enhances by a inhalant that increases his peak conditioning/aggression/resistence to pain... you add the break BruceWayne/The Bat thing to it and its a pretty imposing adversary.

Ive seen vids of some of the famous bodyguards/bouncers out there, and most of them arent even very large guys. Some of these guys are bone breakers and extremely dangerous, yet many arent guys who are freakishly large, but thick in the neck, back and body/ torso.

 

[batbax]

Of course.


Maybe its just that Im a older fan not as familiar with Bane as some of the younger guys. I was reading Batman comics during the great O'Neal/Adams run of the 70s and Colans run of the early/mid 80s.

I understand the threat Banes poses. But in a real world setting Banes freakishly large size isnt so important. I do understand the complaint. But to me, having a guy who has mastered the art of breaking a man body, enhances by a inhalant that increases his peak conditioning/aggression/resistence to pain... you add the break BruceWayne/The Bat thing to it and its a pretty imposing adversary.

Ive seen vids of some of the famous bodyguards/bounces out there, and most of them arent even very large guys. Some of these guys are bone breaks and extremely dangerous, yet many arent guys who are freakishly large, but thick in the neck, back and body/ torso.

Thank you. to add to that, most guys that are huge and tall cant manuever very well and someone like batman would massacre them. Batman hardly seems like hes massacring bane in that last shot. To me, thats whats important. Bane obviously is a scary dude with some serious skills and tenacity.

 

[batbax]

And to those who would say if they arent going to keep banes huge size and mask, why not cast deadshot, I ask you...would batman EVER be bacing away from deadshot like that? THis certainly implies nolan has kept the most important aspects to banes character in tact. Im not even sure how that part is debatable.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Overlooking what points exactly Marx?

By the way, I love how you resorted to calling me a troll simply because I don't agree with your (and Raganork's) views on the traditional Luchador Mask.

You don't owe anything, I'm not the complaining.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Of course.


Maybe its just that Im a older fan not as familiar with Bane as some of the younger guys. I was reading Batman comics during the great O'Neal/Adams run of the 70s and Colans run of the early/mid 80s.

I understand the threat Banes poses. But in a real world setting Banes freakishly large size isnt so important. I do understand the complaint. But to me, having a guy who has mastered the art of breaking a man body, enhances by a inhalant that increases his peak conditioning/aggression/resistence to pain... you add the break BruceWayne/The Bat thing to it and its a pretty imposing adversary.

Ive seen vids of some of the famous bodyguards/bouncers out there, and most of them arent even very large guys. Some of these guys are bone breakers and extremely dangerous, yet many arent guys who are freakishly large, but thick in the neck, back and body/ torso.

Even when you look at something that isn't about realism like the video game Arkham Asylum, Banes size looked utterly ridiculous. As I mentioned to a fellow the other day who was complaning about the size, camera tricks will probably be used. If you present him as something well enough people will accept it. It seems some people forget it's an adaptation and not the comic itself.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Thank you. to add to that, most guys that are huge and tall cant manuever very well and someone like batman would massacre them. Batman hardly seems like hes massacring bane in that last shot. To me, thats whats important. Bane obviously is a scary dude with some serious skills and tenacity.

Basketball players? Boxers? NFL players? Your statement= BS.

 

[Travesty]

And to those who would say if they arent going to keep banes huge size and mask, why not cast deadshot, I ask you...would batman EVER be bacing away from deadshot like that? THis certainly implies nolan has kept the most important aspects to banes character in tact. Im not even sure how that part is debatable.

We don't know what Nolan has done to the character yet, so it is debatable. All we know, is that Bane is charging Batman, and he looks winded. We don't know if Bane will even talk, if he'll be smarter than Batman, if he even uses Venom, etc.

Sure, it looks like we'll get some of those things, but nothing is solidified yet, and we don't know how Nolan will treat the character. I like the last part of the teaser, but so far, the mask is hideous, and doesn't aesthetically resemble Bane, to me.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Raganork, I respect your opinions but until you are able to keep your purist attitude in check or be a bit more flexible, I'm not the one that is devoid of anything

 

[The Joker]

I can't imagine a mute Bane. That's something Schumacher did. Bane is a talker. He's very intellectual.

 

[Travesty]

I can't imagine a mute Bane. That's something Schumacher did. Bane is a talker. He's very intellectual.

Yeah, same here, I like when Bane talks in the comics. I just have a hard time seeing Hardy being able to talk in that mask, because it looks like it would impair his speech.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

And to those who would say if they arent going to keep banes huge size and mask, why not cast deadshot, I ask you...would batman EVER be bacing away from deadshot like that? This certainly implies nolan has kept the most important aspects to banes character in tact. Im not even sure how that part is debatable.

I haven't seen many people saying Deadshot, Deathstroke, yes. And the answer is still both to yes.

 

[batbax]

Basketball players? Boxers? NFL players? Your statement= BS.

No, for the most part basketball players and boxers are very lean. NFL players, wider recievers, very lean. running backs are mostly short and stocky. Lineman are huge as are d lineman. Linebackers would be the best comparison. I suppose I shouldve clarified that putting someone lie that against BATMAN, someone who engages 20 men at a time due to his versatility, wont end well.

 

[conan69]

And to those who would say if they arent going to keep banes huge size and mask, why not cast deadshot, I ask you...would batman EVER be bacing away from deadshot like that? This certainly implies nolan has kept the most important aspects to banes character in tact. Im not even sure how that part is debatable.

^ Agree

Im sure Hardys Bane will be plenty imposing.

And I think he'll be able to speak through the mask. Brightened pics showed a vent on it, so I think his voice will come through.

 

[batbax]

I haven't seen many people saying Deadshot, Deathstroke, yes. And the answer is still both to yes.

Lol, he would? Not in many comics Ive read.

 

[The Joker]

Yeah, same here, I like when Bane talks in the comics. I just have a hard time seeing Hardy being able to talk in that mask, because it looks like it would impair his speech.

It does look like it would impede his speech. Perhaps it's rigged to allow him to talk. From the looks of it he inhales something through it.

But it would be an awful waste of Tom Hardy's talent if he couldn't talk when he was wearing that mask.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

No, for the most part basketball players and boxers are very lean. NFL players, wider recievers, very lean. running backs are mostly short and stocky. Lineman are huge as are d lineman. Linebackers would be the best comparison. I suppose I shouldve clarified that putting someone lie that against BATMAN, someone who engages 20 men at a time due to his versatility, wont end well.

How about Bane? A man who engages and defeats Batman due to his size and versatility. I'm pretty sure that ended well:

For Bane at least.

 

[Marx]

I can't imagine a mute Bane. That's something Schumacher did. Bane is a talker. He's very intellectual.

Schumacher's Bane wasn't mute. He said "monkey work" and went around like a moron yelling "BOMB! BOMB! BOMB!" every time he placed an icicle bomb on the floor at the observatory in B&R.

 

[batbax]

How about Bane? A man who engages and defeats Batman due to his size and versatility. I'm pretty sure that ended well:

For Bane at least.

well of course. You obviously werent here for the last part of the last thread, because that wasnt my point. Im not gonna bother rehashing 8 pages worth of debate to bring you up to speed, sorry.

 

[batbax]

Schumacher's Bane wasn't mute. He said "monkey work" and went around like a moron yelling "BOMB! BOMB! BOMB!" every time he placed an icicle bomb on the floor at the observatory.

LOL..dear God please dont put those horrific images in my mind

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Lol, he would? Not in many comics Ive read.

Batman hasnt ever really defeated fair and square Deadshot physically (unless you can give me some issues?) and he got destroyed more than once by Deathstroke.

 

[Vengeance of Bane]

I hope that they aren't too influenced by Knight, becuase I hope Batman and Bane face each other more than once instead of having Batman face his minions.

 

[Travesty]

Schumacher's Bane wasn't mute. He said "monkey work" and went around like a moron yelling "BOMB! BOMB! BOMB!" every time he placed an icicle bomb on the floor at the observatory in B&R.

I think I'm gonna watch B&R tonight. That movie is just too funny.