The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane XXIX

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[Uroboric Forms]

Bane and Ra's had different approaches.

Ra's talked about burning London, putting plague rats on tradeships, and finally having the world watch as Gotham tore itself apart. He wanted to send a message to the rest of the world: if you're as vile as "insert target city here" , change or we'll pay you a visit.

Bane? Bane wanted violent revolution. He didn't want simple changes in the way the politicians et. al. ran things; he wanted them to answer to the people they wronged *after* said people had been whipped into a frenzy. Bane was more militant than Ra's, a more demagogue than philosopher.

Yep.

@Guard:

I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with your assessment. At all.

Bane's and Talia's motivations are not weak. They are terrorists who sincerely believe that the destruction of Gotham (the actions they take in the process) will inspire citizens from all over the world to take the initiative and fight crime and corruption. Albeit, Bane, Talia and the remaining members of The League of Shadows aren't exactly just destroying Gotham and seeking a fight with Bruce/Batman for 'tribute' purposes (in the memory of Ra's al Ghul and their fallen brothers). This is also obviously personal for Bane, Talia and The League -- it's retribution. They wanted Bruce to watch in horror (while being hopeless in The Pit) as The League of Shadows burned Gotham (with its inhabitants) to the ground.

Seriously, I don't see what's feeble about their motivations. Would you call Al-Qaeda's motivations weak as well simply because you're a non-believer and an 'infidel'? Of course, but these men and women are so misguided and/or consumed by rage and revenge that their convictions cannot be wavered or shaken. To them, it's more than enough to slaughter the innocent in order to serve a higher cause.

Quite.

Really, this argument is getting as tiresome as beastmode's 'Tom Hardy is too small they should have got Dwayne Johnson' BS over and over. Can we give it a rest?

 

[Baneis8feettall]

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I'm glad first fight of Batman vs Bane on youtube.

 

[Greens]

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I'm glad first fight of Batman vs Bane on youtube.

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The audio of "WHERE IS THE TRIGGER" is on there too.

 

[Victarion]

Good stuff.

 

[Baneis8feettall]

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The audio of "WHERE IS THE TRIGGER" is on there too.

t:

 

[malnat11]

Video was just taken down hahahaha!!!!

 

[Superboy-Prime]

[YT]0zxbyAU5tas[/YT]

Voice comparison from the original to the change, I prefer the change.

 

[Greens]

"It would be extremely painful.... for you" doesn't sound right at all in the new version.

 

[Infinity9999x]

"It would be extremely painful.... for you" doesn't sound right at all in the new version.

I think a problem with that line in general is that it's just worded awkwardly. Had they had the CIA guy say something like "You look like a tough guy" it would have flowed better. "You're a big guy" sounds almost like a completely seperate thought, disconnected from the previous two lines.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I think a problem with that line in general is that it's just worded awkwardly. Had they had the CIA guy say something like "You look like a tough guy" it would have flowed better. "You're a big guy" sounds almost like a completely seperate thought, disconnected from the previous two lines.

I feel the same way. It was a little clunky

 

[Infinity9999x]

I feel the same way. It was a little clunky

Yeah. I mean, I suppose Littlefinger could have changed the inflection on his line to make it more clear that he meant "You're a big guy" as "you're a tough guy, I'm sure you can handle some pain." It was supposed to be mocking, but it sounded too much like a simple declaritive observation.

 

[ares834]

I think a problem with that line in general is that it's just worded awkwardly. Had they had the CIA guy say something like "You look like a tough guy" it would have flowed better. "You're a big guy" sounds almost like a completely seperate thought, disconnected from the previous two lines.

Yep. The first time I saw the film I thought "For you" was a response to the agent's "you're a big guy" rather than a continuation of Bane's previous line.

 

[Gee]

Voice comparison from the original to the change, I prefer the change.

I don't think you're allowed to post that since it has audio (and images) from the prologue.

 

[Superboy-Prime]

I think a problem with that line in general is that it's just worded awkwardly. Had they had the CIA guy say something like "You look like a tough guy" it would have flowed better. "You're a big guy" sounds almost like a completely seperate thought, disconnected from the previous two lines.

The way I processed that line was that Bane was replying:

It would be extremely painful to the CIA agent if he took the mask off and that he is also a big guy for the CIA agent, there is a term for it which has escaped my mind but I believe it is clever writing.

I don't think you're allowed to post that since it has audio (and images) from the prologue.

A mod can take it down if its illegal

 

[RadicalNotion]

No one cared who I was until I put on the mask.

They butchered that one.

 

[JackWhite]

I just loved the original take of "It would be extremely painful". The inflection of "painful", it's got that real rugged and static-like quality to it. Gah, freakin' cry babies.

 

[TanneRain]

I could understand all of the prologue lines after two viewings of it online, should have amplified the original lines or something, not redub them.

 

[JackWhite]

I could understand all of the prologue lines after two viewings of it online, should have amplified the original lines or something, not redub them.

That's what I thought was going to originally happen. Boy was I wrong.

 

[Drizzle]

[YT]0zxbyAU5tas[/YT]

Voice comparison from the original to the change, I prefer the change.

For the most part, I like the new one. Except for "OF COURSH!"

Here's what I preferred:

"Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane." - Prologue

"It doesn't matter who we are. What matters is our plan." - Not much difference, really. So I'll go with the final version.

"No one cared who I was until I put on the mask." - Prologue

"It would be extremely painful...for you." - Final film

"Of course!" - The prologue, of coursh.

"Dr. Pavel refused our offer in favor of yours. We had to find out what he told you about us." - Prologue

"Crashing this plane...with no survivors!" - Final film

"NO! They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother!" - Final film

"Yes, the fire rises!" - Final film

"Calm down, doctor. Now is not the time for fear. That comes later!" - Final film

 

[Slushy]

Two-Face lost the woman he loved and his face was all fu**ed up. His vengeance was mostly justifiable.

 

[B4tman]

For the most part, I like the new one. Except for "OF COURSH!"

Here's what I preferred:

"Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane." - Prologue

"It doesn't matter who we are. What matters is our plan." - Not much difference, really. So I'll go with the final version.

"No one cared who I was until I put on the mask." - Prologue

"It would be extremely painful...for you." - Final film

"Of course!" - The prologue, of coursh.

"Dr. Pavel refused our offer in favor of yours. We had to find out what he told you about us." - Prologue

"Crashing this plane...with no survivors!" - Final film

"NO! They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother!" - Final film

"Yes, the fire rises!" - Final film

"Calm down, doctor. Now is not the time for fear. That comes later!" - Final film

Yes I would have Preferred this aswell

 

[TruerToTheCore]

I thought Tom Hardy was pretty good, didn't notice his "small size" at all and he came off as menacing - until the "reveal", then he suddenly became just a puppet and his death was pretty lame... not the way he died, just that it was "BOOM" and we've never seen him again.

 

[Herolee10]

You know, one thing that i was wondering is why didn't Bane have any more visual scars and bruises on his body since he's much older than Bruce and I would assume that he's been doing his thing for much longer than Bruce has and we all know on how banged up Bruce was, but aside from needing the mask, Bane looked fine.