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Yep.Bane and Ra's had different approaches.
Ra's talked about burning London, putting plague rats on tradeships, and finally having the world watch as Gotham tore itself apart. He wanted to send a message to the rest of the world: if you're as vile as "insert target city here" , change or we'll pay you a visit.
Bane? Bane wanted violent revolution. He didn't want simple changes in the way the politicians et. al. ran things; he wanted them to answer to the people they wronged *after* said people had been whipped into a frenzy. Bane was more militant than Ra's, a more demagogue than philosopher.
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I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with your assessment. At all.
Bane's and Talia's motivations are not weak. They are terrorists who sincerely believe that the destruction of Gotham (the actions they take in the process) will inspire citizens from all over the world to take the initiative and fight crime and corruption. Albeit, Bane, Talia and the remaining members of The League of Shadows aren't exactly just destroying Gotham and seeking a fight with Bruce/Batman for 'tribute' purposes (in the memory of Ra's al Ghul and their fallen brothers). This is also obviously personal for Bane, Talia and The League -- it's retribution. They wanted Bruce to watch in horror (while being hopeless in The Pit) as The League of Shadows burned Gotham (with its inhabitants) to the ground.
Seriously, I don't see what's feeble about their motivations. Would you call Al-Qaeda's motivations weak as well simply because you're a non-believer and an 'infidel'? Of course, but these men and women are so misguided and/or consumed by rage and revenge that their convictions cannot be wavered or shaken. To them, it's more than enough to slaughter the innocent in order to serve a higher cause.
I'm glad first fight of Batman vs Bane on youtube.
"It would be extremely painful.... for you" doesn't sound right at all in the new version.
I think a problem with that line in general is that it's just worded awkwardly. Had they had the CIA guy say something like "You look like a tough guy" it would have flowed better. "You're a big guy" sounds almost like a completely seperate thought, disconnected from the previous two lines.
I feel the same way. It was a little clunky
I think a problem with that line in general is that it's just worded awkwardly. Had they had the CIA guy say something like "You look like a tough guy" it would have flowed better. "You're a big guy" sounds almost like a completely seperate thought, disconnected from the previous two lines.
I don't think you're allowed to post that since it has audio (and images) from the prologue.Voice comparison from the original to the change, I prefer the change.
I think a problem with that line in general is that it's just worded awkwardly. Had they had the CIA guy say something like "You look like a tough guy" it would have flowed better. "You're a big guy" sounds almost like a completely seperate thought, disconnected from the previous two lines.
I don't think you're allowed to post that since it has audio (and images) from the prologue.
No one cared who I was until I put on the mask.
I could understand all of the prologue lines after two viewings of it online, should have amplified the original lines or something, not redub them.
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Voice comparison from the original to the change, I prefer the change.
For the most part, I like the new one. Except for "OF COURSH!"
Here's what I preferred:
"Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane." - Prologue
"It doesn't matter who we are. What matters is our plan." - Not much difference, really. So I'll go with the final version.
"No one cared who I was until I put on the mask." - Prologue
"It would be extremely painful...for you." - Final film
"Of course!" - The prologue, of coursh.
"Dr. Pavel refused our offer in favor of yours. We had to find out what he told you about us." - Prologue
"Crashing this plane...with no survivors!" - Final film
"NO! They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother!" - Final film
"Yes, the fire rises!" - Final film
"Calm down, doctor. Now is not the time for fear. That comes later!" - Final film