CapedCrusader14
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I had to go back to listen and see if he says "Goodbye" or not. He does, but he sort of breathes it more than anything. He sounds so helpless.
Still powerful either way, but that tear and his expression just make you feel bad for him.Though the parallel is neat, I think I actually like it better without the "goodbye." It makes for a sadder scene IMO and kinda shows how defeated Bane is through his body language alone.
It's a Very Bane Christmas!
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Hardy did a fantastic job with what he was given; I just wish that they had fleshed out the character's philosophy the same way they did with Ras in BB.
There are lines sprinkled throughout the film that tease at Bane's way of thinking, but they are never given much depth, which I think is a true shame.
For example, he calls himself "necessary evil" - very interesting idea, never expanded upon.
He also says that "people of their stature deserve to witness the next era of Western civilization", and when Pavel tells him that the bomb will go off after the 5 month period, Bane says, "for the sake of your children Dr. Pavel, I hope it does".
There is somewhat of an Old Testament, quasi-messianic dimension that is hinted at with Bane that we never get to see explored. That would have taken TDKR to a whole other level.
Those are excellent points, and just makes me more sad that they weren't expanded upon and explored.
Anyone complaining about Bane's characterization and actions really needs to read Bane. They're practically, if not completely, identical.
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I think there's enough there. From the very beginning of the movie, Bane puts the emphasis not on himself or his "brothers" but on the plan they're enacting. Complete dedication to what he's doing, which Alfred points out to Bruce when he says he sees the "power of belief" in him. Granted, as a viewer you do kind of have to go back to Begins and Ra's himself to know what exactly the belief system of the League is, but that's not wholly unlike other aspects of the movie that rely on past information conveyed in the previous films to fully work.
"I will show you where I have made my home while preparing to bring justice. Then I will break you."
He brought a stage-acting approach to it with voice and body language, so I think it's actually stronger than it would have been had the character not had to wear the mask all the time.To be completely honest, Hardy was fine with what he had, but I actually think he was a bit hamstrung by never showing his face except that glimpse at the end and his voice being so distorted.
I've found him better in other movies.
Anyone else feel this way?
To be completely honest, Hardy was fine with what he had, but I actually think he was a bit hamstrung by never showing his face except that glimpse at the end and his voice being so distorted.
I've found him better in other movies.
Anyone else feel this way?
To be completely honest, Hardy was fine with what he had, but I actually think he was a bit hamstrung by never showing his face except that glimpse at the end and his voice being so distorted.
I've found him better in other movies.
Anyone else feel this way?
To be completely honest, Hardy was fine with what he had, but I actually think he was a bit hamstrung by never showing his face except that glimpse at the end and his voice being so distorted.
I've found him better in other movies.
Anyone else feel this way?
the last bond movie was bond as a broken man fighting to get his life back. the whole movie was about how he was washed up and should have "stayed dead".Of course WB will now make Batman more like Bond, who stays young forever and is never injured seriously.
the last bond movie was bond as a broken man fighting to get his life back. the whole movie was about how he was washed up and should have "stayed dead".
batman like bond is best when he is kept grounded and real. i mean they are a lot a like, both are driven men that come from tragic childhoods.
I don't necessarily think Batman's always best when he's "grounded and real." Grounded maybe, but I don't think you have to be all that real. (Let's face it, Nolan wasn't all that real, just look at Two-Face for that.)
But I think there are a lot of characters that would work amazingly well on film that aren't realistic in the slightest. Mr. Freeze for example. The trick is to keep it darker in tone.
I wouldn't mind seeing the next batch of films be more like TAS in style, and slightly darker. Basically like the Arkham games. That way we can have the more fantasic villains like Freeze, just handled in a serious way.