Top 10 Sly Movies!

[samsnee]

Why is Tango and Cash not getting more love?

 

[-JKR-]

Why is Tango and Cash not getting more love?

I don't get it, either.

 

[Dark Raven]

1. Rocky III
2. First Blood
3. Escape Plan
4. Escape to Victory (aka Victory)
5. Tango and Cash
6. Cobra
7. Stop or my Mom will shoot
8. Judge Dredd
9. Rocky II
10. Rocky


We need a Top 10 Jackie Chan movies thread.

 

[Hunter Rider]

8. Cliffhanger: I know, I know... This film has it's fans. And I'm one of them. This is probably the best of the films Sly started doing in the years starting his decline as a Box office power house. I actually have to give it up to Harlin and Sly in the way the film begins and it's not that it's especially bad either. As I stated it's the best of his films during his decline years. It's just... I think that Lithgow as great as he is as a scene chewer in the film is almost from another film. He's not riding the line between cool and cartoonish that Rickman did in Die Hard and as a matchup, I mean... Who are you gonna pick in a fight between Sly and John? That said, the film delivers on some really great spectacle and the stunts are pretty great. Though I must say this is the movie which started the cliche' of Sly running from a fireball that he road for about four more movies. Not terrible as a movie but I will always look at it as the film that when I think of how Sly lost his magic this was the one that starts that long slow process.

This was actually a Box office bounce back for Sly after Rambo III had started a bit of a decline due to outlay vs profit issues on the film, then Rocky V underperformed and then he had his disasterous foray into comedy with the double whammy of Oscar and Stop or My Mom Will Shoot!, even though I thought the former was decent. The Box office success of Cliffhanger got Sly a lucrative multi film deal with Warner Brothers but ufnortunately those 3 movies and of course Judge Dredd didn't hit nearly as big, the biggest of them surprisingly being The Specialist, I guess naked Sharon Stone was a still drawing money in 1994.

Of the films Sly made in the mid 90's off that deal I feel Assassins was the biggest missed opportunity, it had a good concept with ideal roles for Sly and a hot of Desperado Antonio Banderas, as well as the excellent Julianne Moore as the female lead, and it was directed by Richard Donner, yet somehow it's just a decent but flat action thriller.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Trying to put together list for Sly and Arnie, and I realized that Arnie has a way better filmography.

I hate comparing the two as they were such a huge part of my childhood movie loving experience, along with Harrison Ford, Bruce Willis and Mel Gibson these guys made me an action film fan who then became a film fan in general. I think the thing Arnie did well was he got alligned with better directors, and part of that might have been a control thing, as Sly often had writing credits on his movies where as Arnie was content just being the star and letting someone else guide the film.

While both have had some classic scores in their movies I think Sly has Arnie beat hands down on soundtracks in the 80s!

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

AFAIC, I think Sly is a better actor than Arnold even if Arnold was/is the bigger star.

 

[Dark Raven]

AFAIC, I think Sly is a better actor than Arnold even if Arnold was/is the bigger star.

Well he has been more Oscar nominated, and has awards for his writing etc. Rocky was an accomplishment for a virtual unknown.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

AFAIC, I think Sly is a better actor than Arnold even if Arnold was/is the bigger star.

I would agree but... I think Arnold actually fulfilled his potential more often than Sly and that's nothing to sneeze at. Sly really could have done GREAT work outside of action films. But he decided to be a commodity more than a talent. Not saying Arnold didn't hoe the same row but he was a lot more picky during his run and it wasn't until later that he put his career on cruise control. Match up the directors Arnold worked with and the ones Sly did and it's not usually favorable to Sly. In fact in my opinion that's the issue with the Rock right now. He's really cribbing from Sly's book when he should look towards Arnie's early moves.

 

[Aximili86]

What's the one with Sharon Stone and Eric Roberts?

Can't even remember if it's good or bad, been so long. Kinda vaguely remember it being an okay action-thriller deal.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

He specializes in... cliches'.

 

[Dark Raven]

What's the one with Sharon Stone and Eric Roberts?

Can't even remember if it's good or bad, been so long. Kinda vaguely remember it being an okay action-thriller deal.

The Specialist?



And there's this clip of Stallone meets Rocky.

 

[Aximili86]

Yep, that's it. It just might suck, haven't seen it in probably 10+ years. Remember it being okay, but that might have been more to do with the cast, Woods is always quality.

 

[Deck Rickard]

1. Rocky
2. First Blood
3. Creed
4. Cliffhanger
5. Rocky II
6. Rocky Balboa
7. Cobra
8. Rambo: First Blood Part 2 (such an awkward title, lol)
9. Expendables 2
10. Cop Land

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Why is Tango and Cash not getting more love?

I don't get it, either.

I did not watch it.

 

[Mandon Knight]

Quick someone do a Top 10 of Kurt's and throw it in there....

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Quick someone do a Top 10 of Kurt's and throw it in there....

Slow down, don't make it, not today.

 

[Luigi]

Can't believe I forgot to mention Daylight, great film. Used to be on TV all the time back in the late 90s.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Can't believe I forgot to mention Daylight, great film. Used to be on TV all the time back in the late 90s.

Really? I've always thought it's probably one of the weakest of his later films. Terribly cliche'd and slow and boring. I mean... They kill off the black supporting character but of course the ****ing dog lives... It's just so lazy all over for me.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Of Sly's latter films before he faded completely and then returned with Rocky Balboa, I thought D-Tox was a movie that had a decent premise and great setting, the story just didn't fully stick the landing.

 

[Hordakfan]

The moment any review or someone throws around the word "cheesy" to describe a movie without using it to call a film cheap? Like it's actual definition?

It's a turn off. It's turns me off of the review, and I can't take it seriously. Case in point, sentences or dialogue like this...

"Cobra is a cheesy 80's movie."

Nope. Done with that critic, like I am done with dinner. Cobra is an awesome movie filled to the brim with that signature 80's charm. There. I fixed it. The 80s and 90s were lightning in a bottle on film.

Stop using the word Cheesy in film reviews. Unless you are using it in a derogatory way. Cheesy is not meant to be used in an endearing way or in positive reviews. Unless you are trying to say the film you like is cheap, unpleasant and unauthentic then don't use it in this particular context. One of my biggest pet peeves. Stop using Cheesy to endearingly describe a movie. It's very definition is to say something is cheap or inauthentic.

Rant over. If you want a truly ****ty Stallone film see Escape Plan 2 which is my worst film of 2018 next to The Predator, i liked the first EP as a timewaster.

My favorite Stallone movies.

1. Cliffhanger.
2. Rambo First Blood part 2.
3. Rocky III.
4. Rocky.
5. First Blood.
6. Demolition Man.
7. Cobra.
8. Rambo.
9. Rocky IV.
10. CopLand.
HMs: Rambo III, Rocky 2, Rocky Balboa, Antz, Daylight, Tango and Cash, Eye See You, Lock Up, Nighthawks, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, Expendables 1 and 2.

 

[Da-Scribe]

"Done with that...like I am done with dinner."

Gold. Pure gold.

 

[Peyton Westlake]

I think 2 early movies of his that is a must if you never saw them are

F.I.S.T. (1978)
Victory (1981)
and a mid ranged one in his career Daylight (1996)

 

[samsnee]

Demolition Man is 25 years old this week.

Here’s a good write-up on that classic.

http://www.vulture.com/2018/10/on-demolition-man-libertarian-action-and-the-3-seashells.html

 

[Aximili86]

The moment any review or someone throws around the word "cheesy" to describe a movie without using it to call a film cheap? Like it's actual definition?

It's a turn off. It's turns me off of the review, and I can't take it seriously. Case in point, sentences or dialogue like this...

"Cobra is a cheesy 80's movie."

Nope. Done with that critic, like I am done with dinner. Cobra is an awesome movie filled to the brim with that signature 80's charm. There. I fixed it. The 80s and 90s were lightning in a bottle on film.

Stop using the word Cheesy in film reviews. Unless you are using it in a derogatory way. Cheesy is not meant to be used in an endearing way or in positive reviews. Unless you are trying to say the film you like is cheap, unpleasant and unauthentic then don't use it in this particular context. One of my biggest pet peeves. Stop using Cheesy to endearingly describe a movie. It's very definition is to say something is cheap or inauthentic.

Rant over. If you want a truly ****ty Stallone film see Escape Plan 2 which is my worst film of 2018 next to The Predator, i liked the first EP as a timewaster.

I mean, while I agree in a broad sense...

You wouldn't consider cheesy an apt descriptor of Cobra? It's cheesy as ****. That's not a bad thing necessarily.