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Fantasy TV is now The Lord of the Rings!
Heroes are moving to the Movies sections!
Whatever additional qualities Singer brought to the film is another element. I'm simply pointing to the message it sends. Simply put, Vin Diesel leaves the Fast films, the branding isn't exactly the same, he comes back and it's that 'thing' again.
That's not to say the recent films haven't been really good in their own right, it's to say that he's very much associated with the brand in the minds of the GA and making these same films without him is a different sell.
There is a name association happening. If you have some better director literally step into Avatar right now, it's a different thing, better film or not. That's what I think anyways. Sure someone can come around and make a 'better' tf film, but just what is it exactly that has been selling these films thus far? 'quality' as we know it or brand.
There's also the issue that Michael Bay is 49 years old and may want to make different movies while he still can.
Speaks for itself, man. When the entire goddamn planet is paying to see these movies & 4 times in a row at that it's not a fluke.
Apparently it's not that fascinating to everyone for there are a good amount of other films that have '2hours plus' of explosions and big sound design/robots/cgi and they don't do all that well(almost consistently). Between battleship, salvation and pacific rim I'm sure the shareholders are scratching their collective heads at why the 'formula' didn't pan out.There's just something fascinating to me about 2 hours & 30 min of gigantic explosions, of orgasmic sound design & action & CG, of giant robots destroying stuff & fighting.
The Transformers movies are like McDonalds....no one admits to liking it but someone is eating it
The thing is all movies cost the same, if anything these premium features cost more....The net does like to say that nobody liked these films and that they only go to McDonalds because it's cheap (when there are plenty of more nutritious and much less expensive places to buy food)...
The trouble is we all watch and celebrate plenty of films that aren't thought provoking, that are silly and nonsense it just becomes some mass conversational talking point when it happens with this film as opposed to say Neighbors or something like that.Basically like fast food, you can eat that **** once in a while so long as you balance it out with healthy stuff and you workout. Same with entertainment, I can go see Transformers three times in a weekend but I also have to balance it out with some more thought provoking entertainment later that week.
Lots(and lots) more do small business overseas and world wide. What's more, even less (good or bad)movies do a billion, that includes ASM2. You hop into the BvS threads and taste the debates about just how hard the billion number is supposedly going to be, yet here it's belittled to no end, 'lots of crap movies and such'.A lot of ****** movies do big business overseas.
Even Amazing Spider-Man 2 did a huge international box office take. Doesn't change the fact that both this and Amazing Spider-Man 2 were the least popular installments of the franchises in the US.