Yeah, probably the case. And while DOTM got a few back on board, don't think it really left most SHH members wanting more.
Killing characters like Starcream in such bad ways probably didn't help, but i do think it was a way more entertaining and enjoyable film than 2, i certainly had a great time watching this in 3D
The fact that Bay still included so much of his juvenile crap in the first half of DOTM meant that it didn't really win enough back, that film needed streamlining. I'd like to see this one return to the tone of the first.
I think interest waned after ROTF was so bad.
Definitely, the start of DOTM could have easily lost 10-15 mins if not more, it would have helped the pacing a lot and made it a better movie IMO.
I still content that it's the worst MAINSTREAM movie I've seen. I like action movies. I'm not being high minded. I'm not a fan of meandering plots that are overly long, wasted characters that don't move the story forward, and treating the audience like idiots with stupid jokes. I love humor but dangling ball from a bot and insensitive stereotypes aren't my cup of tea, especially in a film aimed at kids.
Without a doubt, everything with Sam's parents and the guy from the Hangover movies could have been dumped for a start.
Someone over on TFW2005 has posted a thread with some simple Cgi images of AoE Prime... With one shot including both new look Bee and Grimlock... One shot of Prime has mention of a licensing expo,
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers...-optimus-prime-bumblebee-and-grimlock-178659/
That one and the scene in DOTM with the Dreads and Ironhide and Sideswipe comes close, even though it was shorter.
That Forrest fight is still worth the price of admission to ROTF imo. Best bot battle in the series. All down hill from there though.
Someone over on TFW2005 has posted a thread with some simple Cgi images of AoE Prime... With one shot including both new look Bee and Grimlock... One shot of Prime has mention of a licensing expo,
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-4-age-of-extinction-renders-revealed-optimus-prime-bumblebee-and-grimlock-178659/
It appears that someone may have recorded part of the final scene of the movie.... Complete with dialogue from a TF... Which, if true, is a huge spoiler....