Ultimate Batman Ideas ?

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If There was ever a revamp of the batman universe and you were in charge of the character design and story, what would you make it like ???

(Sorry, if there has already been a thread like this)
 
All-Star Batman

and I still want to see an Elseworlds set in Mexico or Columbia with a slightly "realistic" Nolanesque take.
 
All-Star Batman = FAIL
 
This isn't an ultimate batman reboot of idea but an elseworld story I had written a while ago. The premise of it was that Joe Chill never killed Martha and Thomas Wayne. Instead it was the ship carrying baby Superman. As Bruce grows up, he harbors the same passionate hatred, its just directed towards Superman rather than criminals
 
^^good idea. batman grows up dark and broody while superman becomes the heroic, goldenboy.
 
Eh, what I'd probably do would be more an Elseworlds thing, I suppose, but a few things I'd do:

* Bruce's origin would be pretty much the same, except during his training abroad he also picked up acrobatic skills by training with the Flying Graysons, befriending John - this later sets up Bruce helping bring their act back to America for their fateful final show (and also provides a measure of guilt for Batman, resolving to bring their killers to justice in spite of Zucco's hold on the investigating officers). As a momento of his time with the Graysons, he keeps in the cave one of their first-generation costumes (the traditional Robin suit).
* Gordon learned Batman's true identity years ago, but has been in a coma since as the result of a bust that "went bad" (translation: a double-cross). The anti-vigilantist Ellen Yindel is the current Police Commissioner, which is good for Gotham's underworld, since it enables them to entrust Gotham's 'finest' with a mutual primary objective: get Batman, dead or alive. With Gordon out of action, Batman's only remaining confidant on the force is Harvey Bullock, who has been working both sides of the line to his advantage until Batman blackmailed him into his service. Bullock naturally hates his guts for this.
* Robin is Barbara Gordon, wearing a version of the first-generation Flying Graysons outfit; and Dick Grayson gets skipped straight to Nightwing after resolving to avenge his parents' murder by wearing a darker version of the second-generation costume. Batman reluctantly takes Robin as his protege, and keeps an eye on Nightwing, who insists on working solo; however, both know Batman's true identity, and in addition to Alfred the only other person who knows is Dick's aunt, Harriet Cooper, with whom Dick lives but who also has access to the Batcave, and is a saucy old broad who can give as good as she gets; at one point she even manages to fend off Killer Croc after he finds his way to the Batcave (though not knowing Wayne Manor is directly above it) while disguising herself in one of Bruce's old capes and cowl, earning the honorary distinction of "Batgirl".
* As far as Batman's general attitude and relationship with his allies, he's probably somewhere between Batman Beyond and TB&TB Batman - what sense of humor does crack through from time to time is a bit snarky and maybe a little sadistic. Has a tendency to call Robin "Old Chum" just to aggravate the heck out of her; he claims he's trying to teach her the value of self-control - she believes he's just being a creep.
* Victor Friese is forever sealed in sub-zero temperatures inside a reconditioned old NASA spacesuit with a supercharged ice-ray housed inside a snowblower that can freeze anything or anyone solid in seconds. His face is never seen, and he can only speak through a voice box a la Dr. Phibes. He keeps what's left of his wife in cryogenic storage hoping to reverse whatever it was that happened to her (here's a hint: think "Futurama" or even TNBA for a second), and in the one moment where Batman and Robin DO get his helmet off of him in the thick of battle, what they see makes Batman gape in horror and makes Robin sick to her stomach...suggesting that Freeze may really be beyond any sort of physical help.
* The mixture of chemicals that the first Red Hood fell into that turned him into the Joker included those used in embalming fluid; the mixture has caused his body to thin out, his hair to yellow to an almost greenish hue, and his lips and eyelids to peel back rendering him a horrible, gaping, grinning corpse-like figure...but it has also granted him enhanced speed, endurance and reflexes. Has a tendency to use a high-powered pogo stick which he maneuvers with all the mastery of a champion equestrian.
* Killer Croc's skin condition basically makes his body look like a giant callous, and its smell isn't helped any by his insistence on stalking the sewers to "dehumanize" himself and make himself every bit the intimidating shadow figure that Batman is. He's even gone so far as to have his toenails, fingernails and TEETH sharpened to deliberately make himself a more monstrous figure, and has also honed his ability to hold his breath underwater for significantly long periods of time.
* Batman has "The Car", Robin has a motorcycle, and THAT'S IT. The car does have amphibious capabilities and short-range rocket boosters (a la "Knight Rider"), otherwise it's not an elaborate-looking automobile - just a jet-black street vehicle that rarely makes use of its headlights. Aerial recon is usually done hang-gliding from airfoils, otherwise from rooftops.
* Yindel is convinced that Bruce Wayne is Batman, but has yet to be able to prove it. Most of Gotham's underworld, however, has a hard time swallowing the snobbish fop Wayne living a dual life as a guy who breaks bones and knocks out teeth regularly every night.
* The Batcave is powered by an ore Bruce had synthesized from a peculiar meteorite that was first recorded in North America 30 years prior, one that emitted low-level radiation that could prove poisonous to humans with prolonged exposure :cwink: ; naturally he, being Batman, has taken precautions.
 
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I would love a Batman comic series that picked wherever Nolan decides to leave the films. It would have the same style and tone, gritty art, "realistic" takes on the villains, etc. Maybe Goyer to write or at least help out in some capacity, Azzarello would be good to. Art from someone like Lee Bermejo, Bryan Hitch, Alex Maleev, a style somewhere in there. It would be a great opprotunity to see villains Nolan may not use in the movies because either he had other plans, they weren't known enough, he couldn't figure it out, whatever. Despite what some people may say about not liking the realistic approach, I think there would definitely be a big enough audience for something like that. We could even see perhaps cameos from other heroes and how they may be handled in a Nolan-type world/scenario. The book would definitely be a Batman book, but it might be cool to see a "World's finest" arc that lasted a few issues and showed how the movie Batman might interact with a movie Superman, and likewise for other heroes. Also, it'd be a place to introduce some of Batman's support crew, aka Robin, Batgirl, whoever, in a movie fashion. If it turns out those characters really don't work in a film setting as so many fans seem to believe, then nothing is stopping them from being killed or written out, as it's a different continuity from the main comics. It'd be a cool place to try that stuff though, and see if it works without worrying about having a 100 million dollar movie bomb at the box office.
 
I've always liked the idea of Miller's, from his Year One script, that when Bruce returns to Gotham, he has no money and has to build his Batman-identity from scraps, then after a while he "earns" his family-fortune.
 
I think it should be dark. Like uber-dark. As in, super duper uber dark. It'll be awesomely realistic, except there is as much violence and bloodshed as possible. And when I say blood, I mean LOADS of blood. As in, people's heads just randomly explode when Batman walks past. And Bats should beat up Superman atleast once every issue. Because he's SO hardcore! And Supes is a stupid alien. And Bruce should defeat the entire Justice League in one issue because he can outsmart them all. Every one. And Joker racks up a carved body count of atleast a Metropolis level. Did I mention the dark?

Seriously though, I'd pay big bucks to read a wholly pisstake comic like that.
 
I think it should be dark. Like uber-dark. As in, super duper uber dark. It'll be awesomely realistic, except there is as much violence and bloodshed as possible. And when I say blood, I mean LOADS of blood. As in, people's heads just randomly explode when Batman walks past. And Bats should beat up Superman atleast once every issue. Because he's SO hardcore! And Supes is a stupid alien. And Bruce should defeat the entire Justice League in one issue because he can outsmart them all. Every one. And Joker racks up a carved body count of atleast a Metropolis level. Did I mention the dark?

Seriously though, I'd pay big bucks to read a wholly pisstake comic like that.

:hehe:

I think every page should be totally black except for the blood stains.
 
I think every page should be totally black except for the blood stains.

:lmao:

oh and interesting post Jochimus you'd get my 3 bucks based on some of your ideas. Certainly more creative than "omg1! it should follow teh nolanz".
 
I would like to see a Batman based in the 40's, with a
40's noirish hard-boiled detective style and a dash of the fantasic, with Batman wearing a costume similar to his original one.
 
I would like to see a Batman based in the 40's, with a
40's noirish hard-boiled detective style and a dash of the fantasic, with Batman wearing a costume similar to his original one.

Have you ever read Nine Lives? There's some drastic changes to characters, but it sounds like you'd be interested in reading it if you haven't already.
 
All-Star Batman

and I still want to see an Elseworlds set in Mexico or Columbia with a slightly "realistic" Nolanesque take.

Even Batman would have his hands full in Mexico right now. "El Senor Guano"...:hehe:

Seriously though, i think everything just needs to be toned down (i want to avoid saying "realistic") to make the stories better. Still dramatic and operatic, and not 100% gritty all the time, but just believable

And they should stick to Joker, Two-Face, Penguin, Riddler, Scarecrow and Catwoman, with other one-off villains popping up occasionally. All the other villains are just lame.
 
Have you ever read Nine Lives? There's some drastic changes to characters, but it sounds like you'd be interested in reading it if you haven't already.
I'll check it out, thanks.
 
And they should stick to Joker, Two-Face, Penguin, Riddler, Scarecrow and Catwoman, with other one-off villains popping up occasionally. All the other villains are just lame.
Though there are other plain odd parts of your suggestion, I've pinpointed the exact moment your argument went up in flames.

I'd much rather go in the opposite direction, a truly fantastical Batman that encompasses a lot of Golden Age mentality (without updating it Morrison style, I'm talking true-blue over-the-top Golden Age) but also mixing in the wider DC universe.
 
you didn't refute the bolded part....?

But go ahead and go that way tho if you want to appeal to the "4 and up" crowd. Have Batman fighting aliens and mutant crocodiles and vampires or whatever.

I would just rather have comics about actual crime-fighting with believable people rather than ****in scooby-doo/x-files episodes
 
Yeah, you're right! Because we're adults, and only death and gore and realism and darkness is suitable for adults! Shame on liking something fun, that's kiddy! It's not like fiction was ever meant to be used as escapism or anything, no, it was meant to be entirely believable and comics totally serious! I mean, how on Earth could a character who dresses up like a bat and calls himself Batman ever be fun?
 
For me, I'd go with a "period piece" Batman, set in a certain era, 40s or 50s, probably. Modern technology makes Batman harder to believe (well, okay, someone could say that "physics" made him impossible from the start). So no CSI-styled technology and all this stuff. Just mad scientists and their death-rays.

It just came to my mind that the Batmobile would've been much more useful in this era. Because back then there weren't as many cars around as today.
 
i would like a series like core said above as well. a period piece Batman would definitly be cool in my book. I however would also like a modern/realistic Batman series. if not realistic then at least tone down the flash and crazy. brubaker and lark do a great job at it in daredevil so I can't see why they couldn't make a series like that for batman...
 
Yeah, you're right! Because we're adults, and only death and gore and realism and darkness is suitable for adults! Shame on liking something fun, that's kiddy! It's not like fiction was ever meant to be used as escapism or anything, no, it was meant to be entirely believable and comics totally serious! I mean, how on Earth could a character who dresses up like a bat and calls himself Batman ever be fun?
I want to watch brave and the bold now....
 

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