DACrowe
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TASM had great moments. What SM3 was good action. Great moments imply more than great CGI.
Great moments like Peter being heroic without having super-powers, or Spider-man saving that boy from the falling car. Great momnents are a thankful father understanding that this masked man is a hero. Also Uncle Ben being a proper fatherly figure.
Mediocre is having one-dimensional characters or achieving emotion just through music (death of Uncle Ben in SM1).
Garfield could portray the nerd but not the caricature Raimi concocted, the nerd that's shy, smart but not a social dead loss. Same with Uncle Ben, the good guy but also a proper fatherly figure in the case of ATSM, not someone who's unable to lecture his "son" if the boy gets mad.
I agree.
Not only can Maguire's face kick you out of any trace of drama that scene could have had, but also Harry's death was useless and avoidable. He died to save Peter because Peter couldn't get free. It turns out that immediately after he dies, Peter gets free.
Not even close to a great death scene.
And Uncle Ben's death scene had some drama in ATSM. Garfield did some great job there. Maguire barely dropped a few tears and left the scene.
SM2, yes. But again, good action is being achieved by way too many directors to say that it is a sign of greatness.
Again, I can mention the fast-paced and delirious initial action scene in Batman & Robin. It's worth of praising.
They tried to blow each other's heads, then Bernard the butler does his deus ex machina and ta-dah, they become a perfect fighting duo, throwing jokes at each other. If that's the best it can offer, then it's a no from me.
Yeah, but when Peter talked back at him, he just lowered his head and refuse to teach the boy a necessary lesson.
You're right. Too bad TASM was a paint-by-numbers affair by Sony that was just aping better moments from the Raimi film and a poor re-styling of what Nolan did.
I stand by that Harry's death in the awful SM3 has more weight than Uncle Ben's in TASM, and that the Birth of Sandman is more emotionally powerful than the Lizard's "arc." Venom is scarier in his birth and all the action sequences are superior. Really TASM is only better because it never devolves into the complete horror show that is Peter Parker dancing down the street to James Brown or relying on the laziest of plot devices like the know-it-all butler (albeit, the Lizard leaving "How I Dun It" on loop in the sewer is also pretty freaking lazy). Talk about damning TASM with faint praise.
As for Maguire being a bad actor: Go watch Ride with the Devil, Brothers, Wonder Boys and even The Great Gatsby.
I think Garfield likely is the better actor and a more natural fit (though his character is so poorly written in TASM, it matters little). However, Maguire is not the hack some haters like to pretend.