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[Colossal Spoons]

You mean Mr.Hayes was Geoff's henchman...

 

[Zoken]

No, Mr. Hayes was the male half of the mutant couple. they and the aliens tried to kill everyone else.

each couple were equal partners in the Pride, none were henchmen to others.

 

[Dread]

Here's what I thought of the last issue. As usual, spoilers, like the topic says.

RUNAWAYS #15: The current RUNAWAYS arc continues as the new Pride assemble their weapons and decide to take on the Runaways with a "divide and conquor" tactic, showing that "young Geoffery Wilder" is just as clever, if not moreso, than his son was. Meanwhile, Chase and Victor have a chat about their "rivalry", with Chase admitting being jealous of Victor because he's basically the kid that his "mad scientists parents" would have preferred (and, at least not admittedly, someone who is more of an intellectual equal with Gert). Victor, meanwhile, continues to fear losing control to his "Ultron programming". Nico and Gert also have a little tension chatting together, before the team is lured out on an errand, and pretty much are jolly-spanked when the New Pride turns them against one another. By the final page, half the team is down and Molly's been kidnapped! Probably one of the most exciting issues of an already terrific series in a while, RUNAWAYS remains connected to the Marvel Universe while seeming like few things they've every printed before thanks to BKV & Alphona. In fact the only "meh" part of the issue was the cover, if only because it wasn't up to snuff with most of the other "instant poster" style RUNAWAYS covers (after a series of A posters, you recognize a B+ when you see it). I'm glad the digest sales are keeping this title afloat because this is one of Marvel's best books of the 21st century on a lot of levels. Vaughan's still a little "turn based" when it comes to combat, but that's only a minor quibble. Still, I wonder; which Runaway will actually die? Will having Alex's father plucked from 1985 effect their timestream and screw things up (much like "young Kang" gave the multiverse some trouble in YOUNG AVENGERS)? Plus, after a few battles against your typical "nasty adults", its good to see the Runaways reminded that "peer-teens" can be just as troublesome, if not moreso at times (because they know what buttons to press). I can't wait to see the team regroup and somehow avenge themselves, which means the issue did its job. 4 weeks can't pass soon enough for the next issue.

To add, I also wondered about that exchange between Nico and Gert about "leadership", and wondering whether it was foreshadowing. Of course, BKV knows how to mix things up, so one never knows.

 

[Zoken]

Something I'm wondering about... "New Father. Forgive... Forgive new mistakes" this is the words victor was speaking at the beginning. did that mean somethign?

 

[deathshead2]

I think they're taking Molly to get another Pride Member back. I mean, if Geoff sacrifices another of the "New Pride" then they'll see him for what he is and actually try to unseat him. I like that Geoff is the same kind of manipulator his son was (Damn time travel messes with your tenses). I think it would be cool if Alex were to come back in, but after Geoff is down. like somehow the Runaways manage to win, but something happened that seemed like dumb luck to them, then at the end of it all, you see Alex standing in the dark with the X-ray Goggles (he was still wearing them when he died) smiling, and some how indicating that he was the one that helped them to destroy his father, or send his father back in time (that one more likely). I so Want to see more Alex, its not even funny. He's dead (We believe) and evil, and He's still my favorite Runaway.

I hope Geoff isn't stupid enough to try to bring back one of the Hayes, they were trying to kill him. his best bet would be to bring back one of the Steins (Chase's dad seemed pretty tight with Geoff)

I bet he will bring back Alex sense he sort of said he would like to meet him. Or Alex could still be alive and it was his plan to begin with to bring his dad back. And a runaway could die such as Nico and sense Alex still lovers her at least I think he would bring her back if she died. Dang I am thinking to hard

 

[Colossal Spoons]

No, Mr. Hayes was the male half of the mutant couple. they and the aliens tried to kill everyone else.

each couple were equal partners in the Pride, none were henchmen to others.

I said that because of the way Geoff talked to Mr. Hayes. It wasn't very "chummy" at all.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Geoffrey didn't seem very chummy with anyone. Even in this issue, I got the sense that he was straining to keep up a facade of friendliness with the new Pride simply because he knew he still needed them for his plans.

 

[Dread]

Geoffrey didn't seem very chummy with anyone. Even in this issue, I got the sense that he was straining to keep up a facade of friendliness with the new Pride simply because he knew he still needed them for his plans.

Indeed, Geoffrey "1985" Wilder definately is hardcore. Poor Molly may be a "sacrifice", but will the dastardly fiends get away with it?

And more importantly, can the rest of the Runaways manage to keep from ripping into each other over a love triangle to save her?

Got to love the speculation game!

I just wonder about those "time fluxuations" from plucking people from the past. Magical or not, that stuff usually hits the fan quickly. We'll see what happens.

Looks like for a robot, Vincent has a glass jaw.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, Chase didn't even seem to swing that hard and Vic went out like a lamp.

Speaking of Victor; I've never seen anybody's hair look so cool after just waking up

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Indeed, Geoffrey "1985" Wilder definately is hardcore. Poor Molly may be a "sacrifice", but will the dastardly fiends get away with it?

And more importantly, can the rest of the Runaways manage to keep from ripping into each other over a love triangle to save her?

Got to love the speculation game!

I just wonder about those "time fluxuations" from plucking people from the past. Magical or not, that stuff usually hits the fan quickly. We'll see what happens.

Looks like for a robot, Vincent has a glass jaw.

I thought of the time problem as well. If Geoffrey is pulled from 1985 and the Runaways are still aware of Alex's existence, Geoffrey must be destined to return to the past at some point. Otherwise there'll be a paradox and no one likes those unless Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd are involved.

 

[Zoken]

Unless of course when they pulled him from the past, it caused a divergent time-line and didn't affect their reality.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but those are lame.

 

[Zoken]

Its what they did in the League of Loser's arch of MTU.

 

[Dread]

I thought of the time problem as well. If Geoffrey is pulled from 1985 and the Runaways are still aware of Alex's existence, Geoffrey must be destined to return to the past at some point. Otherwise there'll be a paradox and no one likes those unless Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd are involved.

They could simply "wipe" his memory and send him back, somehow. That would probably work.

I guess because Victor's still a "young cyborg", he's not terribly durabile yet. I guess after MACHINE TEEN it was a little surprising to see Chase drop 'im so quick (although Victor WANTED to go down, so he probably didn't brace or something). Or maybe Chase just has a really good hook.

The Nico bit was interesting because the last time a Runaway technically died, it was their leader (Alex). The last arc showed that someone else could use the Staff of One if Nico was otherwise disposed. I sort of doubt Molly is biting it because, well, killing little kids is uncool. Even anime tends to shy away from killin' characters on-screen who are under 13.

Plus, I could see Nico doing some "blaze of glory" thing to "make up" for her past "mistakes", such as getting close to that vampire last volume, getting close to Alex, and smootching Chase (which was just used against them). According to some CIVIL WAR covers, it looks like Karolina will be returning, though, so at least there may be some trade-off. I still wonder if she'll be bringing her "fiance" Xavin along. Hulkling may be

Spoiler

the mutant son of a Skrull and Capt. Mar-Vell

, but Xavin is ALL Skrull. 'Sides, it's usually rare to have a Skrull run around Marvel books who isn't, like, some sort of rotten *****ebag or villian. And as Xavin can "change genders as easily as humans change their hair color", that's some INSTANT fodder for Chase-jokes.

 

[SLVRSR4]

If they kill Chase who will make comments like "the jackson five?"

 

[Colossal Spoons]

The Nico bit was interesting because the last time a Runaway technically died, it was their leader (Alex). The last arc showed that someone else could use the Staff of One if Nico was otherwise disposed. I sort of doubt Molly is biting it because, well, killing little kids is uncool. Even anime tends to shy away from killin' characters on-screen who are under 13.

I got no problem with killing kids in a comic. If they can touch upon racism, sexism, and every other kind of -ism; killing kids should be legal. Like 300 kids die in Civil War #1, how do you feel about that?

And as Xavin can "change genders as easily as humans change their hair color", that's some INSTANT fodder for Chase-jokes.

Ah ha, see Chase is the comic relief. No need for Molly

 

[Dread]

I got no problem with killing kids in a comic. If they can touch upon racism, sexism, and every other kind of -ism; killing kids should be legal. Like 300 kids die in Civil War #1, how do you feel about that?

Firstly, Mark Millar is a unique sort of fish. After all, he has no qualms about alluding heavily to incest (Ultimate Pietro and Wanda) and so on.

Secondly, explosions usually are safe in that it's not as "visible" on panel. Y'know, flash, aftermath, dust, etc. I meant that it's rare to see kids under 12 or so literally being killed on panel by, say, a knife wound or something.

Ah ha, see Chase is the comic relief. No need for Molly

Well, Molly is their muscle. She's tough enough to knock Wolverine on his arse and have him stay there for a few seconds; considering how tough he is, that's not too shabby.

Also, Molly's a different kind of comic relief. Chase has the whole "jock" sort of thing going. Molly has the child-like simplicity and innocence.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I wish they'd actually come out and say whether or not Ultimate Pietro and Wanda are incestual.

I agree, killing kids on panel with weapons is a bit much but I'd be down for explosions.

 

[AndThePickles]

Firstly, Mark Millar is a unique sort of fish. After all, he has no qualms about alluding heavily to incest (Ultimate Pietro and Wanda) and so on.

Secondly, explosions usually are safe in that it's not as "visible" on panel. Y'know, flash, aftermath, dust, etc. I meant that it's rare to see kids under 12 or so literally being killed on panel by, say, a knife wound or something.


Well, Molly is their muscle. She's tough enough to knock Wolverine on his arse and have him stay there for a few seconds; considering how tough he is, that's not too shabby.

Also, Molly's a different kind of comic relief. Chase has the whole "jock" sort of thing going. Molly has the child-like simplicity and innocence.

I agree that I don't think they'd visibly and violently let Molly die. I still hope she's the one to go though.
I've heard many people talk about her simplicity and innocence......I just think she's an annoying child. I think the book would be better off without her....as for the strength issue, I'd be cool with the Runaways getting a new member

 

[Colossal Spoons]

If they get Xavin, she/he could be the new muscle on the team.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't mind seeing Molly die. It's a horrible injustice and her life had barely begun, blah blah blah, but the fact is that her death would really hit the hardest for exactly those reasons. I generally hate kids anyway, so I'd be fine with her dying very gruesomely and very graphically on-panel, too.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

^Beautiful post. I especially liked the "dislike for kids part".

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Thank you, I'm proud of it myself.

Both the post and my dislike.

 

[SLVRSR4]

whoa there is way to much hate on molly! Sure she serves no real purpose but come on neither did Alex! Oh wait he died Tactician come on. Chase had much better ideas set the rock monster on fire for example

 

[JackBauer]

am I the only one who doesn't think Nico's resurrection spell didn't fail and Alex is just in the background pulling some strings?